Why Fed will win the OZ Open

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Mick3391

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Federer is such a natural talent, is he didn't adapt, he'd have a short career.

He started as a S&Ver, but adapted and became the best baseliner, S&Ver, plus his incredible shots and anticipation.

Some say it's wrong for him to take so much time off, SO MUCH TIME? His problem, and the reason he lost the Olympics was that he didn't take enough time off, it's the best thing he could do as it allows him to visualize, and physically it's not just the glycogin getting into the cells, but the cells rejuvenating.

Seems like I'm the only one that saw Fed no longer just slice that backhand in his match against that Paire guy, no he nailed his backhand, I always wondered why he used a defensive shot when he didn't need to, IMO it's adapting to baseline play, but when Fed is aggressive he's unbeatable, plain and simple. Look at Cincy, he was aggresive and it seemed Djoke wasn't even there.

I'm sure he has great coaches, and he's smart, I will always say it, when Fed is aggresive, mixes it up, he DESTROYS ANYONE, he's unbeatable.

And for those who say "Nadal has a winning record", please, I love Nadal, but if Fed never entered the FO he'd have a winning record, it's like saying "Well Ali has a losing record fighting in a 10X10 ring against Foreman or Frazier". Sampras couldn't do squat at the FO, I HATE the FO, Nadal is champ of that tourney, Fed everything else.

So yea, Fed was hitting hard last night, I didn't see the aggresiveness he needs, but I can't see anyone stopping him. Murray can only beat Fed on a bad day, same with Djoke.
 
I agree. He's going to have some much extra glycogin getting into his cells this year not even Ralph can stop him.
 
I expected all of this, but instead of going to the darkest emotions try to figure out what I'm saying. I could be totally wrong, but again, getting back on topic Fed always adapts, he can't just blow guys out like he did when he was 25, so he has to play smarter, that get's him thinking, a thinking Fed is a dangerous person.

I mean he baited Tomic, it's amazing that Tomic gets all of this criticizism for saying exactly what Fed said, Fed has learned like Ali before him that you can out-pyche opponents, I mean look at the dialogue, Fed FIRST SAID "Well you can't say that, I mean number 60 to 10, he has to make the third round", that's a paraphrase, but he was BAITING Tomic, do you really think Fed didn't know Tomic wouldn't respond?

Tomic did respond, he was actually honest and gracious, but the press made it seem like "Bad boy criticises Federer", total joke.

Anyways, get on with your criticism that has nothing to do with my point.
 
namelessone said:
Come on, let's set the record straight.

Nadal was doping in almost all the events that he entered.

He was surely doping in those that he won.
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I am interested if that is true. I would really like to know the truth about that, not just Nadal, but others.

I don't see anything that would indicate that, not like Tyson who clearly took steroids.

I hope not, I don't mind if guys use steroids, that's their business, it was legal until the mid 70's, but I do dislike like everyone else unfair advantage.
 
nice, and when you wake up op come visit us in the land of reality. its surprisingly refreshing to do so from time to time.
 
xan said:
nice, and when you wake up op come visit us in the land of reality. its surprisingly refreshing to do so from time to time.
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You can say it another way, you know like humans, "Yes, they do that, here's my source".

People are such ASSES, and they enjoy being assess
 
Mick3391 said:
Federer is such a natural talent, is he didn't adapt, he'd have a short career.

He started as a S&Ver, but adapted and became the best baseliner, S&Ver, plus his incredible shots and anticipation.

Some say it's wrong for him to take so much time off, SO MUCH TIME? His problem, and the reason he lost the Olympics was that he didn't take enough time off, it's the best thing he could do as it allows him to visualize, and physically it's not just the glycogin getting into the cells, but the cells rejuvenating.

Seems like I'm the only one that saw Fed no longer just slice that backhand in his match against that Paire guy, no he nailed his backhand, I always wondered why he used a defensive shot when he didn't need to, IMO it's adapting to baseline play, but when Fed is aggressive he's unbeatable, plain and simple. Look at Cincy, he was aggresive and it seemed Djoke wasn't even there.

I'm sure he has great coaches, and he's smart, I will always say it, when Fed is aggresive, mixes it up, he DESTROYS ANYONE, he's unbeatable.

And for those who say "Nadal has a winning record", please, I love Nadal, but if Fed never entered the FO he'd have a winning record, it's like saying "Well Ali has a losing record fighting in a 10X10 ring against Foreman or Frazier". Sampras couldn't do squat at the FO, I HATE the FO, Nadal is champ of that tourney, Fed everything else.

So yea, Fed was hitting hard last night, I didn't see the aggresiveness he needs, but I can't see anyone stopping him. Murray can only beat Fed on a bad day, same with Djoke.
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Umm No, he would still have losing record even without the FO beat ups from Nadal.
 
Mick3391 said:
Federer is such a natural talent, is he didn't adapt, he'd have a short career.

He started as a S&Ver, but adapted and became the best baseliner, S&Ver, plus his incredible shots and anticipation.

Some say it's wrong for him to take so much time off, SO MUCH TIME? His problem, and the reason he lost the Olympics was that he didn't take enough time off, it's the best thing he could do as it allows him to visualize, and physically it's not just the glycogin getting into the cells, but the cells rejuvenating.

Seems like I'm the only one that saw Fed no longer just slice that backhand in his match against that Paire guy, no he nailed his backhand, I always wondered why he used a defensive shot when he didn't need to, IMO it's adapting to baseline play, but when Fed is aggressive he's unbeatable, plain and simple. Look at Cincy, he was aggresive and it seemed Djoke wasn't even there.

I'm sure he has great coaches, and he's smart, I will always say it, when Fed is aggresive, mixes it up, he DESTROYS ANYONE, he's unbeatable.

And for those who say "Nadal has a winning record", please, I love Nadal, but if Fed never entered the FO he'd have a winning record, it's like saying "Well Ali has a losing record fighting in a 10X10 ring against Foreman or Frazier". Sampras couldn't do squat at the FO, I HATE the FO, Nadal is champ of that tourney, Fed everything else.

So yea, Fed was hitting hard last night, I didn't see the aggresiveness he needs, but I can't see anyone stopping him. Murray can only beat Fed on a bad day, same with Djoke.
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You don't think 23 'bad days' is quite a lot?
 
Federer will do well to even reach Murray. Not saying he has no chance against Murray, he certainly has, but his path there is pretty tough already. And despite Murray's h2h advantage, he won't roll past this Delpo easily I think.
 
Mick3391 said:
Federer is such a natural talent, is he didn't adapt, he'd have a short career.

He started as a S&Ver, but adapted and became the best baseliner, S&Ver, plus his incredible shots and anticipation.

Some say it's wrong for him to take so much time off, SO MUCH TIME? His problem, and the reason he lost the Olympics was that he didn't take enough time off, it's the best thing he could do as it allows him to visualize, and physically it's not just the glycogin getting into the cells, but the cells rejuvenating.

Seems like I'm the only one that saw Fed no longer just slice that backhand in his match against that Paire guy, no he nailed his backhand, I always wondered why he used a defensive shot when he didn't need to, IMO it's adapting to baseline play, but when Fed is aggressive he's unbeatable, plain and simple. Look at Cincy, he was aggresive and it seemed Djoke wasn't even there.

I'm sure he has great coaches, and he's smart, I will always say it, when Fed is aggresive, mixes it up, he DESTROYS ANYONE, he's unbeatable.

And for those who say "Nadal has a winning record", please, I love Nadal, but if Fed never entered the FO he'd have a winning record, it's like saying "Well Ali has a losing record fighting in a 10X10 ring against Foreman or Frazier". Sampras couldn't do squat at the FO, I HATE the FO, Nadal is champ of that tourney, Fed everything else.

So yea, Fed was hitting hard last night, I didn't see the aggresiveness he needs, but I can't see anyone stopping him. Murray can only beat Fed on a bad day, same with Djoke.
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Er..................What has any of this got to do with winning the Oz Open.

FACT: Djokovic is the favourite, Murray is second and Roger is third.
 
joeri888 said:
Federer will do well to even reach Murray. Not saying he has no chance against Murray, he certainly has, but his path there is pretty tough already. And despite Murray's h2h advantage, he won't roll past this Delpo easily I think.
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The OP is just having a whale of a time
 
Fed can certainly do it but he needs to bring his A game to the second week. His match against davy was medicore. Too many unforced errors for my liking. It seems to me he is also trying to come forward more? It's a good sign but I rekon he will not do that as much against the top guys as his chances to come forward will be less.
 
tata said:
Fed can certainly do it but he needs to bring his A game to the second week. His match against davy was medicore. Too many unforced errors for my liking. It seems to me he is also trying to come forward more? It's a good sign but I rekon he will not do that as much against the top guys as his chances to come forward will be less.
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Federer played well in the first set, while Davydenko was playing well too. Both of them were really aggressive and had to go for their shots, otherwise the other guy would take the opportunity. This kind of situation force you into making error. In the following sets he won comfortably while playing really mediocre. I don't see why he should have tried to play better. I don't think he was at his best.
 
I hope Fed wins AO but he has a tough draw. All the non-Fed fans are going to say that sounds like whining but he really has a tough draw.

He will likely have to beat Tomic, Raonic, Tsonga, Murray (or Delpo), and Djoko to win. Djoko has really only Berdych to worry about. On a hard court, those are going to be tough matches.
 
TennisCJC said:
I hope Fed wins AO but he has a tough draw. All the non-Fed fans are going to say that sounds like whining but he really has a tough draw.

He will likely have to beat Tomic, Raonic, Tsonga, Murray (or Delpo), and Djoko to win. Djoko has really only Berdych to worry about. On a hard court, those are going to be tough matches.
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May be he would be in superb form by the time it really matters. You never know, I have faith in Sir Roger Federer, always..
 
Feather said:
You said few days ago that Roger Federer has absolutely no chance to win AO 2013? Why this change of tune? You suddenly felt the need to convince someone that you are a Roger fan? :wink:
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u missed the sarcasm huh ? anyway i would say falsely pretending to be someone's fan when one is not is trying way hard and waste of life
 
Can Federer win the AO this year? There are at least 17 reasons to think that, yes, he can.

Is he the favourite to win it? Not as this stage in his career, and certainly not with this draw, no. Let's see how this pans out. ;)
 
Mick3391 said:
I am interested if that is true. I would really like to know the truth about that, not just Nadal, but others.

I don't see anything that would indicate that, not like Tyson who clearly took steroids.

I hope not, I don't mind if guys use steroids, that's their business, it was legal until the mid 70's, but I do dislike like everyone else unfair advantage.
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Why wouldn't it be true? Dope testing in tennis is a joke compared to cycling, we all know Lance was tested many times and never positive. So why wouldn't tennis players do it if they know they won't get caught? Especially when you have a player that doesn't mind cheating (illegal coaching, MTO's, time wasting) and trying to win at any cost.
One indication would be sudden change in performance, and suspicious injuries.
 
I think federer needs a good draw these days to be able to go all the way. Dont think he will win this tournament. I thought he was moving really well today. Great first step. However, too many soft errors and i thought his play on break points wasnt good either. Hope i am wrong but i am not expecting too much.
 
havent seen murray play, is he playing well?
i'm hoping fed will win, but its too early to tell. joker is playing well, even if fed gets to the final it'll be a tough battle.
 
Federer is great and I am happy for any wins he gets. But I'm going with Djokovic.
 
veroniquem said:
Why Fed won't win the OZ open. Short answer: Djokovic.
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Murray and Djokovic. Just don't think he can beat them both back to back. I know he did at Wimbly, but let's be honest, that's Djokers worst surface and Fed's best. Plus had a tough enough time dealing with Murray in that final.
 
Murray actually has a decent shot at Djoko in the final. I don't think Fed does . So, for the sake of suspense and thrills, it's better if Fed doesn't make it that far (unless Berd miraculously makes the final, in which case we'd want a revenge match of course but what are the odds?)
 
Nole would have to play pathetic tennis to lose to Roger here. Rog hasn't been able to even win a set their last two meetings I believe, much less come close to winning the match.

Can't see Murray doing it either unless Nole is playing awful. Nole played awful "for his standards" at Flushing yet the match still went 5.
 
Tournament is Djokovics to lose like it has been every year since 2008 really. Agree with the prevailing sentiment only Murray has a shot, but Murray could well even lose to Federer in the semis anyway, and even if he doesnt could well be worn out by Federer in the semis, making his chances in a hypothetical final (already below 50% to begin with) even less.
 
90's Clay said:
Rog hasn't been able to even win a set their last two meetings I believe, much less come close to winning the match.
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On the contrary, he won 2 out of their last 3 meetings, in the semi-finals of Wimbledon and then in the final of Cincinnati where he inflicted a first set bagel on him!

However, if Djokovic is playing his best, I can't see Fed getting past him somehow.

90's Clay said:
Can't see Murray doing it either unless Nole is playing awful. Nole played awful "for his standards" at Flushing yet the match still went 5.
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You forget that Murray wasn't exactly playing his best in the USO final either as both of them were a bit affected by the conditions. They both played much better in the semis of last year's AO. However, now that Murray has bested Djokovic in a Slam final, he will probably raise his level and play with a bit more confidence than he used to if they should meet in this year's final.
 
Mainad said:
On the contrary, he won 2 out of their last 3 meetings, in the semi-finals of Wimbledon and then in the final of Cincinnati where he inflicted a first set bagel on him!

However, if Djokovic is playing his best, I can't see Fed getting past him somehow.



You forget that Murray wasn't exactly playing his best in the USO final either as both of them were a bit affected by the conditions. They both played much better in the semis of last year's AO. However, now that Murray has bested Djokovic in a Slam final, he will probably raise his level and play with a bit more confidence than he used to if they should meet in this year's final.
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Well I was referencing the AO
 
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