Why Federer fans will be supporting Murray in the Murray/Djokovic QF

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If Djokovic loses to Murray in the Qf Federer will have a better chance to win the US Open:

This year Federer has dominated against Murray (Federer 2-0 against Murray in 2014) so should he play him in the final he will be easier to beat than Djokovic.

If Federer wins the US Open he will go ahead of Nadal and his ranking will rise to No.2 in the world from No.3. however he will still be behind Djokovic. If Djokovic reaches the final (and loses to Federer) then there will be a huge 3 or 4 thousand point difference from himself and Federer.

On the other hand, if Djokovic loses to Murray in the Qf and Federer wins the US Open then there will be a smaller gap between Djokovic and Federer and it will be possible for Federer to become No.1 before the end of the season.

Furthermore, if Murray beats Djokovic and reaches the final then his ranking will increase but this won't affect Federer's ranking and him becoming No.1, whilst if Djokovic reaches the final this would diminish Federer's chances of becoming No.1 and will increase the gap there would be between Djokovic and Federer.
 
As a Federer fan, I beg to differ. I am definitely not convinced Novak is a bigger threat to Federer than Murray is. Murray is always fired up against Federer and Roger has a tendency to be slightly nonchalant vs the Scot. Djokovic is an open book as far as US Open meetings are concerned. Either Federer straight sets him or it's a second straight loss in a Slam final. SHOULD THESE PEOPLE MAKE IT THAT FAR. I remain with my original pick of Stan Wawrinka for the title.
 
All great points, but I just like Murray more than Djokovic. I think he was around No.7 or No.8 on my top ten fav list???? Djokovic was around 240ish...
 
I wouldn't go as far as the number one but yeah, probably.
on the other hand: federer-djokovic has been by far the better matchup in terms of tennis, I would prefer to watch that instead of federer-murray. if murray wins vs djokovic he'd be capable of beating federer too of course.

but let's first see how federer will do today. let's not get too far ahead.
 
Honestly, both are a huge challenge for Fed at this point of his career, and that's assuming he reaches the final, which is still far from being a given.

I doubt Fed can beat any of them, he is simply underpowered at this point.
 
As a Fed fan, yeah, I would like Murray to win as I think it gives Fed a better chance at the title (if they both then made the final).

A victory over Djokovic after the tough 2010 and 2011 SF losses (although I am 99% sure Nadal would have beaten Fed in both finals) and the recent 5-set Wimbledon F would be sweeter but I think Novak will be too strong.

Also, as a Scot, Murray is the guy I'd want to win after Fed, so the final outcome would be good either way.

I don't see Murray beating Djokovic though. Maybe a set, but no more than that.

It seems bizarre that Djokovic has more Wimbledon titles than US Opens. Just doesn't feel right that he has only won here once from the 5 finals.

If he does win (and I expect him to), he would end 2014 with 8 Major titles, which would feel about right. Heading into Wimbledon (with all of those tough losses; only 1 Major from the last 9), given his overall level and consistency, 6 Majors seemed like too low a number for him to have at that point.

If 2014 ends with Novak an 8-time Major winner, multiple Major winner at 3 of the 4 and 3-time year-end #1, that would feel about right. Although it still seems a bit odd for him to have 2 Wimbledons and 0 Roland Garros titles (not that his grass level is not great). But Rafa is a beast.
 
As a Fed fan....I am cheering for Murray. Even a deranged Djokovic is a bigger threat to Federer than a on form Murray.
 
I am supporting Djokovic. Fed being in the final is 50/50 imo so I am not thinking about that. The prospect of 18 is unlikely but also glorious that I don't really care who is in the final, would bite your hand off for a final against Djokovic.

I stopped caring for Murray after he won Wimbledon. He achieved the pinnacle and his career will always be viewed as a glorious success.
 
It would be epic if Murray goes on to win USO.

It will be an irony that Novak will have better grass court record and Murray will have better hard courts.

Do not see Murray winning so many high level matches.

Will be rooting for Stan on the other side of the draw.

If Berdych reaches the finals, he will have my support.

If Dmitrov or Monfils or Thiem were to reach finals vs Novak, then supporting Novak.

Bottomline, whom to support cannot be determined at this point.
 
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As a Fed fan, I'm really not sure to be honest. :P

If Fed gets to the finals, it will be tough regardless, just like it was this past WImbledon. Just hoping for a different outcome. :)
 
Only if I knew that Federer will win it all then I would prefer he beat someone else in the final instead of Novak. That's because then Fed would also have a good chance at keeping #1 rank for while. Maybe even get 6th year end #1 (poor Sampras fans :lol:). Otherwise I'd rather have Djokovic get his #8 slam.
 
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If Murray wins Fed has a real shot at the USO and YE#1.

However if a certain Berdych crashes the party, then I don't want him nor Murray to win the event.
 
underground said:
If Murray wins Fed has a real shot at the USO and YE#1.
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Quite crazy to think. If Murray puts out Novak in the quarters and Fed wins the title, he would move ahead in the 2014 race. So even in that unlikely scenario, he would still need to outperform Novak for the rest of the year, probably needing to at least win Basel and YEC. I'd say there is a <5% chance of this happening.
 
underground said:
If Murray wins Fed has a real shot at the USO and YE#1.

However if a certain Berdych crashes the party, then I don't want him nor Murray to win the event.
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To end the worries of the Fed fans about Djoker beating Fed, hope Bautista-Agut will miraculously beat Fed today..........problem solved :twisted::twisted:
 
if Murray beats Novak and Fed wins USO, what is the gap between Novak and Fed ?

I dont care about YE #1 , but a 18th major and being no 1 at age 33 will cause enormous grief to his detractors. One more burn for the weak era proponents.
 
beast of mallorca said:
To end the worries of the Fed fans about Djoker beating Fed, hope Bautista-Agut will miraculously beat Fed today..........problem solved :twisted::twisted:
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This is the thinking of the H2H brigade: "My guy better lose to #140 in the world so that he doesn't tarnish his H2H".
 
tennisaddict said:
It would be epic if Murray goes on to win USO.

It will be an irony that Novak will have better grass court record and Murray will have better hard courts.

Do not see Murray winning so many high level matches.

Will be rooting for Stan on the other side of the draw.

If Berdych reaches the finals, he will have my support.

If Dmitrov or Monfils or Thiem were to reach finals vs Novak, then supporting Novak.

Bottomline, whom to support cannot be determined at this point.
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You mean USO hard courts?
 
I'm a Fed fan, but I'm rooting for Djoker to make it to the finals. First, I want a great final and what would be better than Djoker/Fed at this point. Second, I want Fed to win his 18th by beating the #1 player in the world. THAT would cement his standing as GOAT, imo. Age 33 and winning the US Open against a #1 seed that is physically in his prime? Incredible.
 
I'm a Federer fan, but I definitely hope Novak wins. I enjoy his style of play and personality much more than Murray's, so I hope he will win, despite being a bigger threath to Federer.
 
I am supporting Murray but not why some think. I want Murray to show me something. Show me that he can get back to the top. Show me that he can still play with Novak even if he loses. Show me some heart. You might say I'm not being truthful, but I really am. The game is better with Murray competing at the highest level he can.

If Fed won the title in the event of a Djokovic loss to Murray that would just be a nice side benefit. At this point at Fed's age and mileage, it's just one match at a time.
 
CoachSubway said:
I'm a Fed fan, but I'm rooting for Djoker to make it to the finals. First, I want a great final and what would be better than Djoker/Fed at this point. Second, I want Fed to win his 18th by beating the #1 player in the world. THAT would cement his standing as GOAT, imo. Age 33 and winning the US Open against a #1 seed that is physically in his prime? Incredible.
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He doesn't need to cement anything anymore. History won't remember who he beat to win, just that he won if that is indeed the case.

Besides that, it will just be the same idiots that will ignore the facts and spout off about "weak" eras the next time Federer loses. That will never change. An 18th slam won't change it. A 100th slam won't change it. The only thing that will change is that he will have a better standing with 18 slams instead of 17.
 
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tennisaddict said:
It would be epic if Murray goes on to win USO.

It will be an irony that Novak will have better grass court record and Murray will have better hard courts.

Do not see Murray winning so many high level matches.

Will be rooting for Stan on the other side of the draw.

If Berdych reaches the finals, he will have my support.

If Dmitrov or Monfils or Thiem were to reach finals vs Novak, then supporting Novak.

Bottomline, whom to support cannot be determined at this point.
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What???? :shock: How would Murray have better HC record than Novak? What are you talking about? Why are you just erasing all Novak's HC slams? What is wrong with people here? Why are they so determined to lie and present incorrect facts, just to try to make Novak less significant than he really is. Why are Fedal fans so insecure and resort to this thrash?

Unbelievable.

BTW we get it. You will support anyone but Novak. So predictable. :roll:
 
Chico said:
What???? :shock: How would Murray have better HC record than Novak? What are you talking about? Why are you just erasing all Novak's HC slams? What is wrong with people here? Why are they so determined to lie and present incorrect facts, just to try to make Novak less significant than he really is. Why are Fedal fans so insecure and resort to this thrash?

Unbelievable.

BTW we get it. You will support anyone but Novak. So predictable. :roll:
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I'm guessing he means at the USO only as was already mentioned if you bothered to read it.

Calm down, Cheech.
 
Steve0904 said:
I'm guessing he means at the USO only as was already mentioned if you bothered to read it.

Calm down, Cheech.
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Even if that is true he didn't leave it out by accident. He never mentioned USO. This is intentional attempt to undermine Novak. We see that all over the place here.
 
tennisaddict said:
It would be epic if Murray goes on to win USO.

It will be an irony that Novak will have better grass court record and Murray will have better hard courts

Do not see Murray winning so many high level matches.

Will be rooting for Stan on the other side of the draw.

If Berdych reaches the finals, he will have my support.

If Dmitrov or Monfils or Thiem were to reach finals vs Novak, then supporting Novak.

Bottomline, whom to support cannot be determined at this point.
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Huh? How do you work that one out? Nole would still have 5 HC Slams to Murray's 2.
 
Chico said:
Even if that is true he didn't leave it out by accident. He never mentioned USO. This is intentional attempt to undermine Novak. We see that all over the place here.
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Just like you leave stuff out by accident you mean?
 
I diagree with OP. I am Fed fan and I don't care who is on the other side. When he is on his game, Fed can win against Djokovic or Murray.

If he isn't, then he isn't US Open worthy. I would rather Fed win against quality player than win a cheap one.
 
urundai said:
I diagree with OP. I am Fed fan and I don't care who is on the other side. When he is on his game, Fed can win against Djokovic or Murray.

If he isn't, then he isn't US Open worthy. I would rather Fed win against quality player than win a cheap one.
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So, are you saying that a win against Murray would be "cheap?"
 
Strobe Lights said:
Quite crazy to think. If Murray puts out Novak in the quarters and Fed wins the title, he would move ahead in the 2014 race. So even in that unlikely scenario, he would still need to outperform Novak for the rest of the year, probably needing to at least win Basel and YEC. I'd say there is a <5% chance of this happening.
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Don't forget, the indoor season is coming. Also Novak will be likely to skip one or two events due to the baby's birth (the Asia swing for him is very inconvenient location wise and time wise). Plus Federer always has more than a decent chance to do well in the indoor season. 2013 wasn't that shabby if you consider his form, still reached finals in Basel, semis in Paris and WTF.
 
Steve0904 said:
So, are you saying that a win against Murray would be "cheap?"
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That's not what I meant and I certainly don't think so. I was responding, in general, to OP's sneaky remark that Fed fans wouldn't prefer Djokovic and wasn't targeting my comment against any specific player.
 
Djokovic-Berdych final seems very possible in my opinion. No matter what it's going to be good tennis from here on out.
 
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