Hamburg yeah Federer was sick, but Wimbledon 2008 was Safin's 'best' Wimbledon merely by circumstance and not his best form on grass (although there's not much to compare). Wait wait wait, lucky in the tiebreaker? Hardly, and Federer himself has won many tiebreakers in crucial stages of not just a tournament but in terms of context to his career and perhaps the shape of tennis (W04 for instance) and the match was close, whether you like it or not. I'm not sure if it (W08) was routine, because Safin didn't back down and lost 6-3 6-4 7-6 or something like that anyway, couple of points here and there and he could have won a set perhaps. No, Safin played better in Halle 2005, anyone would tell you the same thing. Grass you can't really knock Safin as he never got given the chance in his 'better' years. On clay, who knows? Young Safin was able to beat a prime Kuerten at the FO. In stark contrast, prime Federer got killed by an old man busted hip Kuerten at FO 2004. I think it would have been even too. I do think Nadal would have struggled with Safin more than Federer too on clay due to Safin having more power on the groundies. (but these are matchups which are irrelevant to the Federer/Safin matchup as opposed to everyone elses opinions on Safin).