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Thiem was GOATing in that first set. If Thiem played like this against Djokovic he would have definitely won the first set. His level went down after that though, so Thiem still loses in 4. (if Nadal was in better form he would have won in 4 as well, but he wasn't. His serve was on USO 2011 level that tournament)AO 13 4R wasn't even Djokovic's best level there. highlights do make it look better than it was. some spectacular rallies truly, but quite a few UFEs as well. Along with djoko getting off to a slow start and Stan slipping up in 2nd set when up 5-2.
Djoko's best is better than Sampras' best at the AO.
USO to USO is different. there's prime Sampras/Federer/Mac are clearly better.
16% unret. serves in the USO 2011 final is low. as great as his baseline game/returning was. he was better in the semi overall and still had to save MPvs vs past prime federer. prime federer obviously better than 2011 version.
You need to watch some more of prime fed/sampras/mac etc. for an actual comparision with them
not just repeat of what you've watched in the 2010s.
USO 18 QF was just good level, nothing more. Djokovic at that USO would've taken out either of them in straights most likely or tops lose one set.
delpo was playing better than either Nadal/Thiem at that USO and Djoko took him out in straight sets. (though he could've lost set2)
It's amazing that you guys have nothing to counter all of his very detailed posts except getting all upset. That's rather weakIt’s amazing how your sit on your chair to type paragraphs and paragraphs all day, and all of them manage to be wrong
Thiem was GOATing in that first set. If Thiem played like this against Djokovic he would have definitely won the first set. His level went down after that though, so Thiem still loses in 4. (if Nadal was in better form he would have won in 4 as well, but he wasn't. His serve was on USO 2011 level that tournament)
Del Potro wasn't playing any better than Thiem. He choked 2 breaks in the first set against an absolutely dead Nadal, and wasn't doing anything special. And for sure he never reached anything close to the level of Thiem's first set. Add the fact that Thiem is a tougher matchup for Djokovic (on hardcourt too) and it is pretty safe to assume Thiem would give a better fight than Del Potro did in the final.
So Ferrer was playing better than Nadal in RG 2013 by this logic?If Djokovic was playing well, he could have countered Thiem of the 1st set and taken it in a close set. (similar to 2nd set vs delpo)
Thiem doing well vs 2019+ djokovic on HC doesn't mean he's a tougher matchup vs 2018 djoko who was prime-ish level.
Thiem had lost 3 sets on the way to USO 18 QF including going 5 sets vs Johnson
delpo zero sets incl straight-setting #31 dasco and #20 coric.
delpo lost 1 set on the way total to the final (that was vs Isner)
Pretty clear Delpo was playing better in the tournament.
So Ferrer was playing better than Nadal in RG 2013 by this logic?
Why? Nadal struggled really hard in the first 3 rounds. Ferrer destroyed everyone on his way to the final, including seeded players. So not really different.remind me what were the draws nadal and ferrer both faced till the finals in RG 13 - oh wait, they were in different universes.
That was not the case in USO 18 b/w delpo/Thiem. or now is Steve Johnson of USO 18 suddenly super tough?
Why? Nadal struggled really hard in the first 3 rounds. Ferrer destroyed everyone on his way to the final, including seeded players. So not really different.
Thiem has a history of dropping sets early at the tournament, but many times he ups his level. He beat Anderson in straight sets and pushed Nadal (a not very good Nadal though) to the limits in the 1/4 final. And anyway, Thiem's game can definitely hurt Djokovic more. Del Potro's strong flat shots are the worst tactic you can use against Djokovic.
This, essentiallyThats because Nadal sucks on hard courts. He is a one trick pony who can only moonball on low altitude clay courts. His wins on hard courts have all come at the cost of compromised opponents or lucky draws.
Yes. Not even arguable either. Sport is about winning.
would, if.. do they exist?Nadal would have been the HC GOAT too if he didn’t have congenital foot issue.
Rafa's won an amazing 4 USO's and that's all that matters. His legacy is completely unaffected by whether he won 20 hard court Masters or 0.
He has won 6 Slams on hardcourts and is into double figures in hardcourt Masters. Can anyone seriously say he is a slouch on that surface??