Carsomyr
Legend
It's generally acknowledged that Nadal cried in the locker room after the 2007 Wimbledon final. And that's fine. When did you miss the turn of the 21st century when
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it became acceptable for men to cry?
Why I like to see Nadal at #1 and Federer at #2
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It's generally acknowledged that Nadal cried in the locker room after the 2007 Wimbledon final. And that's fine. When did you miss the turn of the 21st century when
***SPOILER ALERT***
it became acceptable for men to cry?
DarthMaul
Professional
"The best player in the world" was being schooled by a Swedish guy in his favourite tournament.
smack that
Semi-Pro
yes he did cry right before he got shot by them millions of arrows
when he started talking about his queen
Gaudio2004
Semi-Pro
Nadal is going to be #3 if he does not reach the Montreal QF's... 
Gaudio2004
Semi-Pro
Being down 2 sets to Nadal in Miami 2005, down TWO breaks of serve in the third set.. he proceeds to win the next 3 sets.
FIGHTER!
FIGHTER!
TheFifthSet
Legend
A Spanish claycourter with a heavy forehand and a two handed backhand. Never heard of that before.
Predictable shots? Federer has hit some of the sickest shots I've ever seen. Nadal has too, but let's not overdo it here.
21 GS semifinals in a row (and counting.) Not much more that needs to be said.
He wore custom-made shoes with the number "4" on them, indicating the number of times he has won RG. And the pink shirt, lol.
I keep hearing this. Never did Federer say anything close to that. He said that it feels weird being announced as the No.2 player in the world. That's natural, seeing as he was No.1 for over four freaking years. That's just indicating a change of pace. Nothing more.
The first two are ridiculous, and unsubstantiated, either that or taken out of context. Please provide links for these quotes (whether paraphrased or not.)
I also never recall Federer ever saying that he handed a match to another player. If he did, Nadal fans would be running wild. But whatever.
@Nadal: Are you kidding? He gave very little credit to Soderling, and Gonzalez after AO '07. Not that I'm holding that against him, he's a champion athlete and he has an ego, just like every champion athlete, like Federer, Murray, etc. etc. But propogating that he is a perfect, infallible sportsman is both silly and naive.
When will people get over this? The "one-dimensional" quote was made almost four years ago, and back then it true to an extent. Since then, Nadal has improved his serve, has gotten better at the net, and has flattened his forehand on hardcourts. So the label obviously doesn't apply now (I don't think it did then either, but still.)
Also, I remember him adding that Nadal has done more with that dimension of his game than anybody he's ever seen. So it wasn't a derisive comment per-se.
What do you call dressing like a gay pirate??
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Lets face it, the pressure of being the one everyone is chasing is to much for Nadal, hand it over to the Fed man and he will show you how its done, he is used to being chased, and used to dealing with it perfectly. And some of the things you write about Federer shows your understanding (or lack of it) of the game...not very flattering
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Lol, good one. And since he is picking his butt so much...who knows right?!:twisted:
cknobman
Legend
There your post is fixed.
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FedFan_2009
Banned
This thread is so made of win!
Terr
Semi-Pro
Fed fans certainly think that it matters. Go read the 'who's a better role model' thread.
*******s think he's a better role model because he has excellent 'classy' dress sense.
:shock:
If clothes mattered to me in tennis, I don't think I'd ever watch Nadal play. I HATED those sleeveless shirts. I actually find it insulting to tennis culture. But the polos with pockets? I think Nike's been green thumbing recently.
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Federer indeed is a better role model. I don't think it takes a genius to figure that one out.
Federer is 100% honest, even in moments he shouldn't be honest. Nadal on the other hand, puts up a front.
Lifted
Semi-Pro
Terr
Semi-Pro
I didn't say he isn't a better role model. That's subjective. I'm simply saying clothing shouldn't matter.Fed fans are lethal. Have to take a swipe at each and every comment that doesn't please your God, eh?
Toxicmilk
Professional
I cry when I work with strong spices and onions. In any case, I don't think we should judge someone by if they cry or not, especially in a situation we haven't been through ourselves. People often express their feelings differently, whereas some players smash their racquets, and others go fire their coaches, federer cried when he was so close.
Terr
Semi-Pro
I genuinely felt bad for him when he was crying.
But at the same time, I found it a little disrespectful. It's perfectly natural to be upset when you got so close to something worked so hard for, but then again, it's not like Nadal waltzed his way in there without trying. He worked his ass off too.Federer still smashes racquets though. Don't think he has this year. That really bothers me about some players. Anyone know?
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Yours was a lot better than the OP:s
Terr
Semi-Pro
Magic! When was the last time Fed smashed a racquet?
My mother had this system a few years ago where she was only allowed to eat doughnuts if Federer threw a tantrum on court, because I told her he was working on his on court mentality. She figured she'd lose some weight that way. lol. I didn't really follow his matches though, so it didn't go too well.
Terr
Semi-Pro
Haven't you heard that this metrosexual thing is in? All the ladies are diggin' it!
DownTheLine
Hall of Fame
You do know that Federer doesn't pick what he wants to wear right? LOL what a joke.
Fixed that for you, since this is a comedy thread and all.
Nadalfan89
Hall of Fame
It's generally acknowledged? By who?
Even if he did cry (which he didn't, of course) he did it by himself in the locker room. He didn't ruin the celebration ceremony for Federer.
Federer's pathetic display at the AO 09 final was just bad sportsmanship.
theroleoftheunderdog
Professional
its a trophy presentation, not a "celebration ceremony".
so the presentation didn't go as smoothly as some people wanted, but it's not like federer broke the norman brookes cup, so get over it.
so the presentation didn't go as smoothly as some people wanted, but it's not like federer broke the norman brookes cup, so get over it.
Carsomyr
Legend
Um, by Rafa himself. He admitted as much to a Spanish newspaper when he said he withdrew himself into the locker room and told people to go away because he "didn't like people to see him cry."
I don't care about the sportsmanship of crying, I'm trying to understand your Cro-Magnon view of expressing emotion.
allcourter2008
Semi-Pro
It's a well known fact that Nadal cried for over an hour while he had his post-match bath.
Federer's crying was surely uncalled for, but such things can happen.
cknobman
Legend
LMAO pure gold!!!!
Nadalfan89
Hall of Fame
Cro-Magnon view?
Did I not say that expressing emotion is fine when it's warranted like losing a loved one?
Crying after winning AND losing a tennis match is a little much.
If you'd like to try some more strawman arguments, please make them more subtle, moron.
P_Agony
Banned
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Serendipitous
Guest
:lol::lol::lol:
Nadalfan89
Hall of Fame
Waahh they disagree with my idiotic opinion, therefore they're all abunch of losers waaahhh.
You're a failure.
Carsomyr
Legend
How was it a straw man argument? Your point was basically Roger is a crybaby and Nadal is a sort of Hemingway Code Hero. I refuted this with evidence that Nadal cried after his Wimbledon loss. Please get back to me when you have a more thorough understanding of logical arguments and fallacies.
Conquistador
Banned
Federer is the best in the game. Federer is the gold standard of tennis history. He is number 1.
maximo
Banned
Conquistador
Banned
You're darn right he is. He is a real man, that is not afraid to show his emotions. Federer can be put up there with some of the greatest human beings to walk the earth. Hes an inspiration and a standard to all of us.
First quote above: exactly the reason why Fed won RG and Wimbledon while Nadal is having early career problems with his knees. I reckon that if you stand a chance to see Federer live and see how he moves, you may change your mind.
Second quote above: Federer plays predictible shots? What? The players will be the first to disagree. Federer won RG precisely because he doesn't play predictible shots. Otherwise, he would have lost the Del Potro match and probably one or two sets with Soderling.
Third quote above: I thought most people agreed that the last 3 Wimbledon matches have been superb efforts from both players, and if you remember well, Federer was in all of them. He actually won two.
I agree with most of the other quotes, but I think it's plain funny that somebody thinks that a lazy and predictible player can be number one and actually considered the best ever.
P_Agony
Banned
Don't flatter yourself. They bashed and offended.
They can love Nadal as much as they want for all I care, and they can hate Fed, but bashing him just makes them a bunch of losers.
Ambivalent
Hall of Fame
Federer hits predictable shots? I just stopped reading after seeing that.
Nadal unpredictable? Watch the 2008 wimbledon final and tell me that was unpredictable.
Nadal unpredictable? Watch the 2008 wimbledon final and tell me that was unpredictable.
Talker
Hall of Fame
slicefox
Banned
sarcasm detector fail
flyinghippos101
Legend
I will begin to count how many times you contradict yourself or make hypocritical remark. This is #2
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Yeah, so why not go over and beat Federer with his shots that you can always predict.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Yeah, hitting every ball to Fed's backhand for 4.5 hours is so amazingly unpredictable !!!
Nadalfan89
Hall of Fame
It's a strawman argument because I said that it's ok to cry when you lose a loved one, not when you lose a tennis match.
You then said that my position was that it's not ok to cry ever, which was never my position at all. Therefore you created a strawman to attack.
I know my logical fallacies well; I constantly have to put up with them from fed fans.
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