Why is Berrettini good on grass?

It's still a big joke to consider Draper a favorite to win Wimbledon. A dark horse perhaps (real dark), but favorite?
Sure, I was more referring to the fact he won his maiden title literally moments after Beatlesfan post that I responded to
 
Sure, I was more referring to the fact he won his maiden title literally moments after Beatlesfan post that I responded to

When was the last time that Stuttgart Open winner went on to win Wimbledon? I'll hang up and wait.
 
When I see Berrettini in form stepping up to serve he reminds me of this product from Beretta:

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Yeah, grass has changed a lot. It's slower and higher bouncing now, which suits baseliners more than it used to. Djokovic's fitness and mental toughness also make him tough to beat on any surface.
 
In the same way I can't understand why Djokovic won 7 Wimbledon titles, when this one is a pusher

If it were in the 1980s-90s, I wouldn't have been able to see Djokovic winning Wimbledon, much less Berrettini reaching the third round of the tournament.
As impressive as it is seeing Djokovic with 7 Wimbledon titles (props to him), it is still a massive travesty that he has the same number of titles there as Sampras.
 
Maybe in the WTA division.

Surely this is a joke?? Jack Draper winning Wimbledon is a hilarious prediction. He's never won a single pro event and has never made it past the second round at Wimbledon!

You might as well predict 85 year old Rod Laver will win it. Berrettini also has 0 chance though he's a much better player than Draper on grass (and everywhere else).
I said Draper had not much chance on grass a while ago, because of his movement. Got laughed at...
 
Every single explanation in this thread fails to use any statistic or it fails to explain why he's much worse on HC compared to either clay or grass.

"bIg sErVe and fOreHanD."

Statistics say otherwise. His hold% goes up on grass but that's true for everyone. The real story is that his 1st serve return is super effective on grass and his return stats on grass are slightly above average as a result.
 
Every single explanation in this thread fails to use any statistic or it fails to explain why he's much worse on HC compared to either clay or grass.
It's the backhand. His two-hander isn't that good, and the slice isn't as effective on HC as it is on grass. He has more time to run around his weak backhand on clay, which is why he has better results on it compared to HC (plus slice is still more effective on clay than on hard).
 
Berrettini is a very tall guy with chopsticks for legs. What makes you think he'd have any meaningful success on clay?
That strong forehand with lots of power and spin is the perfect weapon on clay. Clay gives him time to set it up and dominate with it, doesn’t have to move as much as most other players.
 
That strong forehand with lots of power and spin is the perfect weapon on clay. Clay gives him time to set it up and dominate with it, doesn’t have to move as much as most other players.
Guys with terrible movement don't have success on clay. Plus Berrettini’s biggest weapon is his serve, which would be a lot less effective on dirt.
 
Guys with terrible movement don't have success on clay. Plus Berrettini’s biggest weapon is his serve, which would be a lot less effective on dirt.
But he IS good on clay and has had succes on the surface. His biggest weapon is his serve + forehand combo. Works fine on clay. And he doesn't have terrible movement, he has good variation, anticipation and coordination. Those things are good for clay too. Think about Andres Gomez – not fast, still good on clay.
 
Every single explanation in this thread fails to use any statistic or it fails to explain why he's much worse on HC compared to either clay or grass.

"bIg sErVe and fOreHanD."

Statistics say otherwise. His hold% goes up on grass but that's true for everyone. The real story is that his 1st serve return is super effective on grass and his return stats on grass are slightly above average as a result.
That slice backhand helps too.
 
But he IS good on clay and has had succes on the surface. His biggest weapon is his serve + forehand combo. Works fine on clay. And he doesn't have terrible movement, he has good variation, anticipation and coordination. Those things are good for clay too. Think about Andres Gomez – not fast, still good on clay.
He is clearly much worse on clay than he is on grass, that's what i don't understand about tuis thread
 
I mean, Roddick also won more clay titles than grass ones, i don't think anyone would argue he was anywhere as good on clay than he was on grass. Berr's Wimbledon results are much better than those he got at RG.
American clay tournaments. Different thing. Berrettini is (was?) legit good on clay. End of story.
 
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