Bill Lobsalot
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Borg displayed nothing on the court other than tennis skill. Maybe the chicks dug his looks.Borg had huge charisma, and sex appeal. A very strong aura.
Vilas was a more human, flawed Borg.
Borg displayed nothing on the court other than tennis skill. Maybe the chicks dug his looks.Borg had huge charisma, and sex appeal. A very strong aura.
Vilas was a more human, flawed Borg.
Of course, but thats not what is at play here. Sinner has plenty of fans, but many haters are just Carlos fans or moral high ground weirdos.People will always have preferences. Sampras and Agassi are both great players, but they have very different styles. If you prefer Agassi hitting the ball cleanly off of both wings, you are not going to become a Sampras fan simply because he has more majors.
That's just for gloryhounds.
Borg had a strong aura, and his personality contrasted with his rivals Connors and McEnroe.Borg displayed nothing on the court other than tennis skill. Maybe the chicks dug his looks.
X is dead Zed.Current Players popularity on Twitter/X
1 million Plus
Djokovic 9.2M Followers
500K Plus
Alcaraz 840.6K Followers
400K Plus
Dimitrov 458.9K Followers
Tsitsipas 435.9K Followers
300K Plus
Medvedev 338.3K Followers
200K Plus
Sinner* 273.3K Followers
100K Plus
Zverev 136.9K Followers
Rublev 124.9K Followers
Tiafoe 116.7K Followers
Fritz 110.5K Followers
Ruud 104K Followers
Yep, but if Sinner continues to do what he is doing then it wont matter, aka Djoker.Gauff is the equivalent on the WTA side. At the moment, any tennis fan worth their salt is taking note of what Iga and Jannik are accomplishing on court, but both Carlitos and Coco have captured the public attention.
Yep, but if Sinner continues to do what he is doing then it wont matter, aka Djoker.
Nah, man. Any tennis fan 'worth their salt' can acknowledge and appreciate the achievements of all excellent players. That said, it would be patronising to assume that those who are not fans of Jannik and Iga are not 'fans worth their salt', or that fans of Carlitos / Coco are 'not worth their salt'.... At the moment, any tennis fan worth their salt is taking note of what Iga and Jannik are accomplishing on court, but both Carlitos and Coco have captured the public attention.
Nah, man. Any tennis fan 'worth their salt' can acknowledge and appreciate the achievements of all excellent players. That said, it would be patronising to assume that those who are not fans of Jannik and Iga are not 'fans worth their salt', or that fans of Carlitos / Coco are 'not worth their salt'.
As a Carlitos fan, his exciting game and his achievements make him a great player in my view. He has as you know, achieved considerable success in his young caeer to date, so it isn't just about his style of play. That said, I can understand your view that those considered less exciting to watch may not capture the public's interest as much, even if they are superb players.
Does it matter if they're popular? Not in my view. A player's career is built on more significant factors and those factors are what matter in a successful career. Jannik is purring, at the pinnacle of the sport. I doubt if he gives a feck about relative popularity - rightly so.
Okay man. Got it.That's exactly what I said. "Taking note of" doesn't mean you have to be a fan.
There can be no doubt that Sinner* is playing at a level above the rest of the tour, at the moment. And he is playing tennis of an extremely high level. But, unlike Alcaraz, this doesn't seem to be translating to interest or attention among the general public, far less love.
There can be no doubt that Sinner* is playing at a level above the rest of the tour, at the moment. And he is playing tennis of an extremely high level. But, unlike Alcaraz, this doesn't seem to be translating to interest or attention among the general public, far less love.
If I recall, this is kinda how Federer started off too. Genius on the court, but a pretty boring personality outside of it. Turns out "letting the racquet do the talking" works if you're that goodThis isn't a criticism of his game, but he just doesn't have a fraction of the personality and charisma of Alcaraz. Even the controversy didn't really stick to him, as it seemed out of character somehow.
Now, this could change, as excellence, itself, can be exciting and if he and Carlos meet in more climactic matches. And right now, tennis is transitioning from The Big 3 / Djokovic era.
Federer got more interesting after he started losing.If I recall, this is kinda how Federer started off too. Genius on the court, but a pretty boring personality outside of it. Turns out "letting the racquet do the talking" works if you're that good![]()
weird that med has more than zed???Current Players popularity on Twitter/X
1 million Plus
Djokovic 9.2M Followers
500K Plus
Alcaraz 840.6K Followers
400K Plus
Dimitrov 458.9K Followers
Tsitsipas 435.9K Followers
300K Plus
Medvedev 338.3K Followers
200K Plus
Sinner* 273.3K Followers
100K Plus
Zverev 136.9K Followers
Rublev 124.9K Followers
Tiafoe 116.7K Followers
Fritz 110.5K Followers
Ruud 104K Followers
Borg had a strong aura, and his personality contrasted with his rivals Connors and McEnroe.
As a young player, Borg had temper issues, even being expelled from a tennis club in Sweden. His parents said he could ruin his whole career, so Borg then went the other extreme where he rarely showed any emotion. Borg having a hot temper under an ice cold exterior made him interesting.
If I recall, this is kinda how Federer started off too. Genius on the court, but a pretty boring personality outside of it. Turns out "letting the racquet do the talking" works if you're that good![]()
You've got a point, but remember Borg. Being a larger-than-life stoic cyborg can win you a lot of fans.Please dont compare Sinner to Roger.
Federer was always exciting to watch and had a huge amount of variety/explosiveness. He also showed a ton of emotion from early on...I remember his first Master's 1000 very well and also him crying when he won his first Wimbledon in 2003.
Sinner is like a tennis cyborg with zero feelings or personality. Bash the serve/fh/bh, repeat, move to next tournament.
"Emotional incontinence" is my new favorite insult, thanksSinner is like a tennis player should be. That emotional incontinence simple people are obsessed with belongs more to sports like football.
You've got a point, but remember Borg. Being a larger-than-life stoic cyborg can win you a lot of fans.
Jannik's game isn't boring at all IMO. He's one of the most gifted ballstrikers of all time. Always liked his style of play more than Alcaraz, even if I've pretty decisively joined the Carlos corner at this pointBorg had style, charisma and an aura that Sinner could never dream of.
Jannick almost goes out of his way to look boring.
To be honest, world would be a much better place if more people were like Sinner.
Jannik's game isn't boring at all IMO. He's one of the most gifted ballstrikers of all time. Always liked his style of play more than Alcaraz, even if I've pretty decisively joined the Carlos corner at this point
Its more his look that Im referring to, the hat and nondescript style. Borg had long hair, signature style and rock star presence.
10/10 nickname, Brad Gilbert would be proudI call him Napoleon Dolomite
I call him Napoleon Dolomite
10/10 nickname, Brad Gilbert would be proud![]()
One of the best nicknames ever. Credit due!
Twitter is for old people like me.Pretty weird to post something like this if you need to particularly select Twitter, because on Instagram it‘s not like that.
Of course they did. Despite his boring, stoic on-court personality, Borg certainly didn't look boring. Rock star good looks, long hair, and a hot athletic build.Borg displayed nothing on the court other than tennis skill. Maybe the chicks dug his looks.
Um, I think it's called, "Tacky Schlock".This isn't Ticky Tock, or whatever it's called.
Please dont compare Sinner to Roger.
He also showed a ton of emotion from early on.
Young Federer was a hot head, and more of a headcase than Safin at that time (1999-2002 time). Hewitt was the excellent one mentally from that generation from the beginning, in that he thrived on competing and getting under opponents' skin in matches.If I recall, this is kinda how Federer started off too. Genius on the court, but a pretty boring personality outside of it. Turns out "letting the racquet do the talking" works if you're that good![]()
And again this year. Thread fail lolYet last year he was voted favorite player by fans around the world, who knows why.
Thread that has clearly already started off on the wrong foot.
Gotta love this lol
Young Federer was a hot head, and more of a headcase than Safin at that time (1999-2002 time). Hewitt was the excellent one mentally from that generation from the beginning, in that he thrived on competing and getting under opponents' skin in matches.
Federer's former coach Peter Carter died in August 2002, and it changed Federer. Federer was suddenly like "I cannot waste my tennis talent and tennis potential anymore". Federer's consistency went up several levels in the latter months of 2002 already. Prior to this change in Federer, he would have the odd good tournament (even a few brilliant ones like 2002 Hamburg) but he would also have terrible performances and early losses. Safin was honestly more consistent than Federer at the time, and delivered more often, despite Safin's own headcase issues.
Federer still had the odd frailty in 2003, but they were much fewer. In 2004, he started dominating.