Why is there equal prize money only in joint events?

[Nole_King]

I agree, it's a farce they only play BO5.

It is a sticky wicket to consider duration in determining the pay. Bo3 or Bo5 doesn't matter. Because if it mattered then non grand slam events should pay same. The point here is that men's tennis is a different sport than women's (Serena's own words). So two separate games played under two separate organizations having their own PnL would result in different pay. Not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp.

 

[optic yellow]

It is a sticky wicket to consider duration in determining the pay. Bo3 or Bo5 doesn't matter. Because if it mattered then non grand slam events should pay same. The point here is that men's tennis is a different sport than women's (Serena's own words). So two separate games played under two separate organizations having their own PnL would result in different pay. Not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp.

Yeah you are right, the actual justification for the change should just be that it is sexist as hell, a demeaning relic of a less educated time that trivializes their half of the singles competition.

 

[taster]

Of course it makes sense. If you don't think fairness or "justice" plays any role, then why on earth would you object to what anyone does?

Doesn't "might make right" for everyone? Or just certain people (that you agree with)?

Justice and fairness are not the same as equality. It's fair that anyone should be able to play tennis, but their abilities will differ and so will their outcomes. Inequality is baked in to the very idea of tennis - there are winners and losers, it's inherent in sports.
Justice is can be distributed equally, but that doesn't mean humans are equal - the idea of justice itself implies unequal treatment before the law.

 

[taster]

Women are criminally overpaid at grand slams. It's not equal for the men. The men do way more work, yet receive the same prize money. it's a joke. A man has to spend way more hours on the court to win his grandslam as compared to a woman who only steps out there for like 1-1.5 hrs each time, yet she still gets the same prize money.

Where is the equality?

But the inequality is even worse than that.
Even if they played the same hours exactly, if they women don't attract the same amount of money as the men, why should they receive the same amount, just because of their sex?
If a female models earn more than men, why would we arbitrarily equalise pay when women are in more demand than the male models, just because they happen to be a different sex? it makes no sense, just as equalising pay for all models makes no sense, some far more attractive to designers than others. If I became a male model i would be pretty useless, so why should i get the same pay as someone who is useful.
Unless you subscribe to Marxist ideology, it makes no sense,

 

[Clay lover]

But the inequality is even worse than that.
Even if they played the same hours exactly, if they women don't attract the same amount of money as the men, why should they receive the same amount, just because of their sex?
If a female models earn more than men, why would we arbitrarily equalise pay when women are in more demand than the male models, just because they happen to be a different sex? it makes no sense, just as equalising pay for all models makes no sense, some far more attractive to designers than others. If I became a male model i would be pretty useless, so why should i get the same pay as someone who is useful.
Unless you subscribe to Marxist ideology, it makes no sense,

Yeah. People with varying abilities get paid differently throughout the history of mankind and it's totally normal. Now that the line is drawn between men and women, it suddenly becomes an incendiary issue, when it's really not.

Like a WTA player when compared to an ATP player, I'm equally limited in my natural competence at my job than someone who gets paid higher in the same field too, but it's not like I would be unhappy about it.

Of course, tennis sells entertainment, and entertainment is subjective, and may not always mean the faster serves and better athletes, and the entertainment value generated by either tour is open for debate, but I do think if given the choice most would opt for buying men's tickets.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Quite a few of you seem like you’d prefer women barefoot in the kitchen. lol

 

[Clay lover]

Quite a few of you seem like you’d prefer women barefoot in the kitchen. lol

I think you have to actually address the arguments to prove whether that mindset is at play. Mostly I'm seeing people making arguments based on reasons other than patriarchy, but maybe I'm just blinded by my misogyny, who knows

 

[mtommer]

I thought you were simple making a "might makes right" argument when you said "Billie Jean and her friends fought the good fight and got equal pay"...

Huh. Apparently you can't even define what a "might makes right" scenario is. Soooo interesting. Please, keep up your "arguments". No, really, please do.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Quite a few of you seem like you’d prefer women barefoot in the kitchen. lol

What a dumb post. Reduces everything to sexism. Sports is dominated by men and watched predominantly by men. Like it or not.

 

[Bartelby]

What a dumb post. Reduces everything to sexism. Sports is dominated by men and watched predominantly by men. Like it or not.

That's a little bit like saying that transportation is dominated by the petrol engine. True but insufficient! Things are changing in women's sport. You just don't want to see it.

 

[Bartelby]

It is a sticky wicket to consider duration in determining the pay. Bo3 or Bo5 doesn't matter. Because if it mattered then non grand slam events should pay same. The point here is that men's tennis is a different sport than women's (Serena's own words). So two separate games played under two separate organizations having their own PnL would result in different pay. Not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp.

If you had a mature business and you had a chance to increase your business by 50% at a reasonable cost would you not take the opportunity to "grow the business"?