Why qualifies Brad Gilbert to be a commentator?

EddieBrock

Professional
I understand he was a player in the 80's, but I don't believe he every accomplished much as a player. Obviously he also coached Agassi and some others, but he really doesn't seem to add very much to the conversation.

Instead of talking about the match and players, he comes up with little nicknames and inside jokes that require an explanation from the other commentators. Every time I hear his voice on TV it just drives me crazy.

Did they do any kind of focus group testing or what criteria did they use to hire him? Most of the other commentators do a good job, but I just can't stand him or figure out why he's there.
 

Midaso240

Hall of Fame
I think he has a great knowledge of the game,one of the best in the world in fact. Perhaps he's not one of the most articulate though...
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
They usually relegate him to sit in the crowd and isn't the primary color guy. Which is a good way to use him, I think.
 

EddieBrock

Professional
I think he has a great knowledge of the game,one of the best in the world in fact. Perhaps he's not one of the most articulate though...
What kind of knowledge does he have that any former player/coach/fan wouldn't have?

I really despise his little nicknames for everyone and absurd statements like "that's a trunk slammer" or his little inside jokes
 
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Disgruntled Worker

Professional
Those first things you mentioned already make him more qualified than anyone on this forum. But add the fact that he speaks from the heart and tells it like it is. No BS. Gilbert's the only guy with the balls to say anything meaningful. He's a throwback, a maverick who isn't afraid to mix it up.
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
He got to #4 in the world and coached 3 Grand Slam champions ..I kinda of like the nicknames..Jerzy Boy was my favorite (for Jersey Janowitz)
(from Wikipedia)
Gilbert was ranked among the top 10 players in the U.S. for 9 of his first 10 years on the professional tour. His career win-loss record in singles play was 519–288.
Among his upsets of players ranked in the world's top 3 were his defeat of no. 2 Boris Becker, 3–6, 6–3, 6–4, in Cincinnati in 1989, no. 2 Edberg, 7–6, 6–7, 6–4, in Los Angeles in 1991, no. 3 Sampras, 6–3, 6–4, in London in 1992, and no. 3 Jim Courier, 6–4, 6–4, at Memphis in 1994, Edberg, 6–4, 2–6, 7–6, in Cincinnati in 1989, and perhaps most significantly, no. 2 John McEnroe, 5–7, 6–4, 6–1, in the Masters in MSG New York in January 1986, which sent McEnroe into his first six-month break from tennis.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I understand he was a player in the 80's, but I don't believe he every accomplished much as a player. Obviously he also coached Agassi and some others, but he really doesn't seem to add very much to the conversation.

Instead of talking about the match and players, he comes up with little nicknames and inside jokes that require an explanation from the other commentators. Every time I hear his voice on TV it just drives me crazy.

Did they do any kind of focus group testing or what criteria did they use to hire him? Most of the other commentators do a good job, but I just can't stand him or figure out why he's there.
Let's see:
1. He won 20 ATP titles and has more than 500 match wins, reaching a career high of #4. That's a fairly impressive resume so he did accomplish a lot, despite your claim.

2. He not only coached Agassi, but also had stints in the box for Roddick and Murray. He's always offering up tidbits from that angle of the game and makes some reasonably astute observations from a coach's perspective.

3. His shtick with the nicknames may drive you crazy but it's mildly entertaining banter and livens up a match from time to time. There are worse transgressions by a lot of the other boobs in the box.

4. You can't please everyone. You might like Pepsi but millions prefer Coke. ESPN seems happy with his work and would make changes if they got unfavorable feedback from the viewership.
 

TParker

Rookie
Because he knows the Game from ALL the different P.O.V.'s...and if I'm not mistaken he's beaten some of the HEAVIES on his trip on the Tour.
 
Let's see:
1. He won 20 ATP titles and has more than 500 match wins, reaching a career high of #4. That's a fairly impressive resume so he did accomplish a lot, despite your claim.

2. He not only coached Agassi, but also had stints in the box for Roddick and Murray. He's always offering up tidbits from that angle of the game and makes some reasonably astute observations from a coach's perspective.

3. His shtick with the nicknames may drive you crazy but it's mildly entertaining banter and livens up a match from time to time. There are worse transgressions by a lot of the other boobs in the box.

4. You can't please everyone. You might like Pepsi but millions prefer Coke. ESPN seems happy with his work and would make changes if they got unfavorable feedback from the viewership.
Add in an Olympic medal in 1988 as well.
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
What kind of knowledge does he have that any former player/coach/fan wouldn't have?

I really despise his little nicknames for everyone and absurd statements like "that's a trunk slammer" or his little inside jokes
Your personal opinion on Brad has nothing to do with his ability to do his job, and trust me if he wasn't liked the broadcasters would get the feedback and he'd be gone, which he isn't. So clearly your opinion on him is not the majority opinion.

So I'd say we can just change the title of this thread to "EddieBrock doesn't like Gilbert" and then you'd get a bunch of "who cares".
 

EddieBrock

Professional
Perhaps the best to never reach a GS semi?
Most of his tournament wins were in small tournaments and no GS semis. Doesn't seem like an very accomplished player at the majors.

Isn't he the guy that ruined Any Roddick's career by changing his forehand into the heavy looping shot he's been trying to fix? Didn't Any Murray get rid of him and scream at him during matches because he gave such bad coaching advice?


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Your personal opinion on Brad has nothing to do with his ability to do his job, and trust me if he wasn't liked the broadcasters would get the feedback and he'd be gone, which he isn't. So clearly your opinion on him is not the majority opinion.

So I'd say we can just change the title of this thread to "EddieBrock doesn't like Gilbert" and then you'd get a bunch of "who cares".
How do you give feedback on him? I'm shocked there are so many Gilbert fans here. Most other tennis players I've talked to feel the same way I do.

During some great matches I have to have the mute button standing by for when he goes off talking about himself or one of his rants.

Obviously what you think about a tennis commentator is your opinion, but there's just something about him I can't stand and it seems like there are a lot more qualified former players/coaches that would do a better job. I've got no problem with any other commentator I've seen
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Brads problem is he trys to hard to be cool, he used to come on the jim rome show and sounded like a 16 year old at times.
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
Brad has no "problem" and doesn't "need" to do anything you folks have suggested. he made tons of money on tour in an era where it wasn't easy to make tons of money, he wrote a best selling tennis book read by many ("Winning Ugly"), coached a Hall of Famer, and still has a lucrative job with the networks..so clearly he doesn't need to change sh#t. All your comments are pointing out is he isn't your favorite...so yeah...that's fine and who cares.
 

Legend of Borg

G.O.A.T.
he's ok, above average for sure (compared to the SkySports people who lick Murray's shoes he's a god)

i liked the ESPN broadcast of the AO open a few years ago when Fed won his 16th

i found his courtside commentary on Fed's game versus Davydenko (who was zoning at the time) really insightful
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
i liked the ESPN broadcast of the AO open a few years ago when Fed won his 16th

i found his courtside commentary on Fed's game versus Davydenko (who was zoning at the time) really insightful
The famous 'slow walk back' match! Nadal fans will never let us forget.

Not exactly one of his best. Part of his annual post AO blues I suspect. :cool:
He was in the right place at the right time, and/or knew the right people.

Same as why loads of people have the job they do.
Sure. But he still delivers - with his own style. He's commentating on tennis; not covering an airline disaster.
 

Disgruntled Worker

Professional
Most of his tournament wins were in small tournaments and no GS semis. Doesn't seem like an very accomplished player at the majors.

Isn't he the guy that ruined Any Roddick's career by changing his forehand into the heavy looping shot he's been trying to fix? Didn't Any Murray get rid of him and scream at him during matches because he gave such bad coaching advice?


Great result here:



How do you give feedback on him? I'm shocked there are so many Gilbert fans here. Most other tennis players I've talked to feel the same way I do.

During some great matches I have to have the mute button standing by for when he goes off talking about himself or one of his rants.

Obviously what you think about a tennis commentator is your opinion, but there's just something about him I can't stand and it seems like there are a lot more qualified former players/coaches that would do a better job. I've got no problem with any other commentator I've seen
Andy Roddick hasn't won a major since parting ways with Gilbert. Just because you have some insane, immature vendetta against BG, it doesn't make him a bad commentator. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Getting people to talk about tennis even if it's in negative light helps the sport as a whole.

That's the show-business aspect of the sport that's made the NBA and NFL such powerhouses. If the ATP ever wants to generate interest it has to have cutting-edge, take-no-prisoners ambassadors like BG. People who aren't stuck up and take themselves too seriously and understand that it's a game that should be enjoyed by all walks of life, not just preppy, pretentious a$$holes that live in Connecticut. Get over yourself, dude.
 
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Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Brad is a character and knowledgeable. When he lived in the East Bay, he was known to throw some wild parties. So many tennis commentators are boring stiffs; I find Brad Gilbert to be entertaining.
 
I understand he was a player in the 80's, but I don't believe he every accomplished much as a player. Obviously he also coached Agassi and some others, but he really doesn't seem to add very much to the conversation.

Instead of talking about the match and players, he comes up with little nicknames and inside jokes that require an explanation from the other commentators. Every time I hear his voice on TV it just drives me crazy.

Did they do any kind of focus group testing or what criteria did they use to hire him? Most of the other commentators do a good job, but I just can't stand him or figure out why he's there.
What qualifies you to question him?
 
Most of his tournament wins were in small tournaments and no GS semis. Doesn't seem like an very accomplished player at the majors.

Isn't he the guy that ruined Any Roddick's career by changing his forehand into the heavy looping shot he's been trying to fix? Didn't Any Murray get rid of him and scream at him during matches because he gave such bad coaching advice?


Great result here:



How do you give feedback on him? I'm shocked there are so many Gilbert fans here. Most other tennis players I've talked to feel the same way I do.

During some great matches I have to have the mute button standing by for when he goes off talking about himself or one of his rants.

Obviously what you think about a tennis commentator is your opinion, but there's just something about him I can't stand and it seems like there are a lot more qualified former players/coaches that would do a better job. I've got no problem with any other commentator I've seen
You seem to really have it in for the guy. Yeah sure he ruined Roddick's career-when he fired him he was world no 2 I believe. In the years after he was unable to win another slam so maybe it didn't matter who his coach was.

Wow,Murray shouting at his coach during games-have you seen a coach he doesn't do that to? Seems Murray wasn't mature or dedicated enough at the time according to Gilbert & the advice he gave him which he ignored at the time has paid off since then.

Gilbert admits that his and Murray’s relationship was fraught at times. The age and generation gap threw up differences while Murray's time spent playing video games also caused friction.

Speaking for the first time about Murray since the Scot’s decision to dump him as coach, Gilbert said in the Guardian: “He doesn't live an outlandish life and he has got to be the only Scottish guy ever who doesn’t drink. His idea of a great time is studying his opponent’s play on DVDs.

“And then he plays video games seven hours a day. So if he is not playing video games or playing tennis, he is with his girlfriend.

“He lives a quiet relaxed life, focused on being a tennis player. But he is obsessed with video games. I don’t play video games.”

"People expect me to be bitter but I'm not. Look around and you'll see how many coaches get fired,” he said.

"We still speak. He is now doing a lot of things I was asking him to do, like being much more aggressive and stop hitting so many damn drop shots.

"If he plays more like that then great things are going to happen to him because he has great talent."
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Guess someone was watching the Jim Rome show .... hosted by another "trying to sound cool" tool.​
I use to sometimes hear Jim Rome on the radio when driving in San Diego in the 1990s, until I couldn't take his calculated, insincere bombastic schtick anymore. I think he has interns write much of his material these days.

Brad strikes me as very different. He loves sports, betting on sports, and talking about sports. What you see on television is the same person he is off-screen. The man has no delusions about being cool; he's a sports dork and knows it. His ESPN colleagues take the p*ss out of him constantly, and he accepts it in a good-natured way.

His nicknames and such don't seem calculated. It is just the way his Gilbertland mind works. It wouldn't be surprising if he had a bookie in elementary school, and would trip other kids in a foot race, but he seems like a good guy. John McEnroe might disagree.
 
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