Why Roger Federer Should Care about The Masters

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nikdom

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Good Article!

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2010-04-28/4025.php


by Ben Pronin

“I think as the tournament would have gone forward I would have found my groove more and more, and who knows what would have happened?” said Roger Federer after blowing three match points in a three set loss to Marcos Baghdatis in Indian Wells. “But I don’t need to worry about that anymore. It’s about resting because I do feel the first match in my body. It’s something that always is tough, coming from a long layover and all of a sudden playing matches. But, the season is long. There’s no need to panic here.”

“I fought as much as I could… My game has issues at the moment. I’m definitely lacking timing. I don’t know where that comes from…It fuels my desire to go to the practice courts, because I don’t like to lose these type of matches,” Federer said after blowing a match point in a three set loss to Tomas Berdych in Miami.

“I hope I can come back from this. That’s usually what I do after a loss like this. Sometimes it takes a loss to wake up and shake you up for your approach the next week. When you always win, sometimes you forget how hard it is. That’s why today I don’t get too worried about this loss,” said Federer after saving six match points before going down in three sets to Ernest Gulbis in Rome.

The common theme here is Federer shouldn’t panic and he doesn’t like to play “these kind” of matches. What kind is that? Error-filled gag-fests on both ends of the court. Years ago, Federer was winning matches on his worst days with only Rafael Nadal being able to topple him (in no less than four sets, too). But in 2010, Federer has had only one good loss: a straight set defeat to Nikolay Davydenko in Doha where the Russian connected on 100% of first serves in the first set.

You could say that loss was bad because Federer was completely outplayed. But in that sense, all the credit really belongs to Davydenko. There’s no shame in losing to the better player on the day. But with his most recent losses, it’s hard to say who was the better player. After each of Federer’s losses in the Masters, there seems to be a general consensus that [insert hard-hitting under-achiever] deserved the win. Since he won, that is very true. But did they play amazing tennis to topple the 16-time major champion? Was it the best match of their respective careers?

No. A ridiculously lackadaisical and sub-par Federer lost to nervous chokers who were also fairly sub-par in their own right. Does anyone else see a problem with the world number one losing to players who have blown more matches than Federer has won in the slams?

So what’s the deal? Why is Federer playing so poorly? Why does he appear to be weaker mentally than the mentally weakest guys on tour? And why doesn’t he care?

I know that all tennis players have off days, but that’s not even the case for Federer. He has off sets. He played great in the first set against Gulbis, then like complete crap in the second set, and finally he was barely able to hang with Gulbis in the third. It seems like we just can’t trust what Federer says anymore. Either he was lying about all the practicing he’s done or he was lying about how good he feels before the start of the tournament.

He didn’t look like he was feeling well yesterday. Is it lack of practice? I doubt it. But here’s where the fun begins. Plenty of Federer fans are going to jump out and say he’s “lacking match play.” I could believe that for, say, Andy Murray. But Federer has always gone on lengthy breaks here and there throughout the years when he was still stringing together enough wins to actually win some titles.

For example, in 2005 Federer didn’t play for almost two months between Wimbledon and the Masters in Cincinnati. He wasn’t his best in Cincy but he still won. The only thing he didn’t win from there until the end of the year was the Masters Cup.

Of course people are going to say Federer was young then but he’s aging now so he needs more matches, but I don’t think age has anything to do with it. Federer could’ve beaten Baghdatis, Berdych, and Gulbis. He could’ve beaten them all in straight sets, even. But his body language was that of someone who didn’t really care about winning. Look back at the quarterfinals of the Australian Open where Davydenko was rolling through Federer. Federer wasn’t playing his best and Davydenko definitely was, but Federer still had a look about him that said he was trying to think of anything he could do to turn the match. Where was that look against Gulbis?

After everything Federer has accomplished, he surely deserves to be as lackadaisical as he wants, but he claims he’s still motivated. But in the beginning of the year he said, “Motivation for me is really not a problem because I love tennis too much just to say ‘I have won all the slams and two beautiful daughters and a wife — I’m happy so I’ll leave’…My hunger will definitely still be with me to succeed and you can tell when it isn’t because I will not step onto the court.”

If that’s the case, then Federer should start pushing himself in the Masters events. They’re still important events to the players and they’re important to tennis in general. Federer doesn’t do anyone any favors if he only wins matches four times a year. Do we really want the ATP to turn into the WTA? Does anyone want to watch Federer play terrible tennis? It’s a losing situation for everyone, even Federer. There is the notion that one day all of these small losses will catch up to Federer in the slams. When that day comes, maybe it will be a real wake up call for Federer.

Another big point that Federer fans argue is that Federer only cares about the slams. This may very well be true. But tennis fans care about the other events, too. The slams make up only two months of the entire year and the Masters make up only slightly more. Federer rarely plays other events which means he can play a potential four or five months of the year. Who wants to see him play like crap for half that time?

Federer, it’s time to step it up and give back to all the fans who have supported you throughout the years. It’s not going to kill you to win a couple of Masters events every once in a while.
 

Rippy

Hall of Fame
Whilst I consider it stupid for Fed to turn up and play completely rubbish, I'm not really sure why the author assumes Fed is capable for pushing himself at the Masters AND slams. Fed's not getting any younger, he knows this, and can't win every tournament any more.

He was unbelievably dominant from 04-06, I think it's a bit unfair people still expect him to continue like that forever.
 
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nikdom

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^^ So you think he's aged significantly since AO? He was pretty good at the ao from what I saw.
 

swordtennis

Legend
Before the Grand Slams he drinks a youth potion.
Yet he wants more and more stringent testing 4 the "youth potions" unlike your love intrest Dr Fuentes Nadal. U want 2 troll Ill troll wid ya.
Now onto the topic. Federer is aging. he can not pull the trigger like he once was able to. He looked good at the AO. He shows flashes of brillliance then flashes of age. The decline is not huge, yet. It takes huge amounts of mental energy 2 win the tournies now as one ages. Tennis is a youngsters sport as my tennis coach once told me.
 
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ecurb

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I agree he has to step it up in the smaller tournaments because they provide critical match play practice for the biggies. If he continues like this, lack lustre performance could eventually creep into his slam results. Let's face it, winning that match against Davy at AO10 was a bit lucky.
 

CMM

Legend
Yet he wants more and more stringent testing 4 the "youth potions" unlike your love intrest Dr Fuentes Nadal. U want 2 troll Ill troll wid ya.
Now onto the topic. Federer is aging. He looked good at the AO. He shows flashes of brillliance then flashes of age. The decline is not huge, yet.
Nadal wants testing too. Show me where he said that he doesn't want to be tested.
It's funny that Federer wants stringent drug tests now, after he broke the GS record. Maybe he just wants to make sure that no one will beat his record.
 

swordtennis

Legend
Nadal wants testing too. Show me where he said that he doesn't want to be tested.
It's funny that Federer wants stringent drug tests now, after he broke the GS record. Maybe he just wants to make sure that no one will beat his record.
I will never argue with you about Nadal. You are in love and can not have a discussion about him. Nadal has consistently complained about the testing. I am done with this. It has been made public knowledge.
 

Semi-Pro

Hall of Fame
This article is a bunch of crap. Federer has been doing **** in the masters events since 2008 and now some no name decides to suddendly post an article about how **** he has been doing in all the events except the slams? Has this guy been living under a rock for the past three years or what? This Ben Pronin character can write all the **** he wants but in the end Federer knows whats best for himself and doesn't need some no name chump trying to flame him.
 

CMM

Legend
I will never argue with you about Nadal. You are in love and can not have a discussion about him. Nadal has consistently complained about the testing. I am done with this. It has been made public knowledge.
He didn't complain about the tests. He complained about the same thing that Murray did. Does this mean that Murray is doping or he doesn't want drug tests?
Besides, you like Murray. How can you like a guy that complains about "drug testing"?
I love Nadal just as much as you love "the skinny old goat".
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
Federer, it’s time to step it up and give back to all the fans who have supported you throughout the years. It’s not going to kill you to win a couple of Masters events every once in a while.
He won two last year.

I get tired of these "Federer doesn't care about non-slams" thing. At this stage of his career he'll obviously be less motivated but judging from the comments you would think that Federer only needs to "care" about these events and regardless of his form and feel on the ball, he'll win matches in a blink. It just doesn't work like that.
 

swordtennis

Legend
He didn't complain about the tests. He complained about the same thing that Murray did. Does this mean that Murray is doping or he doesn't want drug tests?
Besides, you like Murray. How can you like a guy that complains about "drug testing"?
I love Nadal just as much as you love "the skinny old goat".
Wrong. There are other players I root 4 over Federer. You are in LOVE LOVE like only a woman can LOVE. I have a manly love of tennis. Objective first. Emotional third. I prefer to stare directly into the belly of the beast in the search 4 lifes truths.
Now onto the topic Federer also has a hard time playing back to back matches now. As the Masters are. US Open is going 2 be particularly tough 4 him 2 win. Unless he gets on the Juice and then he can run around like an antelope and play consecutive 5 hour 5 setters non stop.
 
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nikdom

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I don't expect him to win everything but is it too much to expect the world no.1 not to lose 2nd round matches?. He even had match points in IW. It's one thing if didn't care about ranking and showed up like Serena at the slams. He keeps saying otherwise but performs carelessly.

With Nadal you can be sure the guy at least puts in a valiant effort. It's disappointing to see Fed like this.
 

CMM

Legend
Wrong. There are other players I root 4 over Federer. You are in LOVE LOVE like only a woman can LOVE. I have a manly love of tennis. Objective first. Emotional third. I prefer to stare directly into the belly of the beast in the search 4 lifes truths.
Now onto the topic Federer also has a hard time playing back to back matches now. As the Masters are. US Open is going 2 be particularly tough 4 him 2 win. Unless he gets on the Juice and then he can run around like an antelope and play consecutive 5 hour 5 setters non stop.
Whatever. You're not as objective as you pretend to be.
 

swordtennis

Legend
I don't expect him to win everything but is it too much to expect the world no.1 not to lose 2nd round matches?. He even had match points in IW. It's one thing if didn't care about ranking and showed up like Serena at the slams. He keeps saying otherwise but performs carelessly.

With Nadal you can be sure the guy at least puts in a valiant effort. It's disappointing to see Fed like this.
It is. I think it is down 2 what he has in the tank mentally and physically. I powerlifted hard core 4 ten years. I hit the heaviest weight on the deadlift, squat and bench and hit a wall and got injured and burned out. I did not pick a weight up 4 8 years. And then I never was really in2 it like i was before. I also played tennis real hard 4 years and ended up a bit burned out. So I think his mind and body takes alot 2 kick in now. So he has to put on a game face and say it is all good when it really is just harder and harder 2 keep the pace.
 

bolo

G.O.A.T.
Right now they are no consequences to his coasting in the MS except in the form of nadal. Nadal is pushing him again but after breaking the 14 record and maybe after taking the weeks no. 1 record federer probably will not even care that much at being 2.

I don't see anything changing until other guys are able to push him down the rankings further. But can they?
 
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nikdom

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It is. I think it is down 2 what he has in the tank mentally and physically. I powerlifted hard core 4 ten years. I hit the heaviest weight on the deadlift, squat and bench and hit a wall and got injured and burned out. I did not pick a weight up 4 8 years. And then I never was really in2 it like i was before. I also played tennis real hard 4 years and ended up a bit burned out. So I think his mind and body takes alot 2 kick in now. So he has to put on a game face and say it is all good when it really is just harder and harder 2 keep the pace.
That's pretty cool about your powerlifting dude! You should give me some advice about weight training. :)
 

davey25

Banned
His effort level in best of 3 events is becoming pathetic. Even Serena Williams gives more effort to them, yet she is criticized so harsly for hers. Of course she is a black American women, not a white European man, which is a big difference.
 

swordtennis

Legend
That's pretty cool about your powerlifting dude! You should give me some advice about weight training. :)
Anytime. The basic principal is always use perfect technique and form. If you do that as u increase the weight your body will be able 2 lift it with the least amount of effort. Also rest pauses are the way 2 increase your xplosive strength out of the "bucket".
 

dmt

Hall of Fame
His effort level in best of 3 events is becoming pathetic. Even Serena Williams gives more effort to them, yet she is criticized so harsly for hers. Of course she is a black American women, not a white European man, which is a big difference.
I dont think its racism davey. Serena is a much more unlikeable player as compared to federer.
 

Cyan

Hall of Fame
Federer also has a hard time playing back to back matches now. As the Masters are. US Open is going 2 be particularly tough 4 him 2 win. Unless he gets on the Juice and then he can run around like an antelope and play consecutive 5 hour 5 setters non stop.
I said this a while ago and Davey25 thinks I'm wrong. But because of Super Saturday it will be tough for Fed to keep on winning the USO vs all these young guns....... Fed's best chance is Wimbledon because most of the young guns stink on grass. You saw what Del Po did to Fed at the USO final last year? I expect another young gun to beat Fed at the USO final again this year.
 
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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
This article is a bunch of crap. Federer has been doing **** in the masters events since 2008 and now some no name decides to suddendly post an article about how **** he has been doing in all the events except the slams? Has this guy been living under a rock for the past three years or what? This Ben Pronin character can write all the **** he wants but in the end Federer knows whats best for himself and doesn't need some no name chump trying to flame him.
He's actually doing worse than in 2008 (or 2009) when he made semis or quarters regularly in master events. Losing consistently in first or second round is certainly a new thing. In 2009 for instance, he lost Miami and IW to Djoko and Murray, 2 top 5 players. This year, he can't pass an early round vs guys like Baghs, Berdych and Gulbis who are nowhere near top 5.
Sure, the trend existed before but it's very clear it's getting worse.
 

swordtennis

Legend
I said this a while ago and Davey25 thinks I'm wrong. But because of Super Saturday it will be tough for Fed to keep on winning the USO vs all these young guns....... Fed's best chance is Wimbledon because most of the young guns stink on grass. You saw what Del Po did to Fed at the USO final last year? I expect another young gun to beat Fed at the USO final again this year.
Well I dont think they stink especially now as the grass is slower but I tend 2 agree. I think if he does get another major or 2 it will b at Wimbledon and/or the AO. If he just happens 2 get one at the FO or US Open it will even give me more respect 4 his acheivments. He has fit alot of tennis into a very small window.
 
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nikdom

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Anytime. The basic principal is always use perfect technique and form. If you do that as u increase the weight your body will be able 2 lift it with the least amount of effort. Also rest pauses are the way 2 increase your xplosive strength out of the "bucket".
I try to stick to good form always. I've started going to the gym again after a long break and I'm working with free weights. Close my eyes during lifting so I can visualize the muscles being worked.

Now if I understand you correctly about rest pauses, are your saying that I need to explode into the movement, rest at the top for a second or two and then slowly go into the eccentric part? (like tempo 2 -up, 2 - pause and 4 -down on the squat for example)
 
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nikdom

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I said this a while ago and Davey25 thinks I'm wrong. But because of Super Saturday it will be tough for Fed to keep on winning the USO vs all these young guns....... Fed's best chance is Wimbledon because most of the young guns stink on grass. You saw what Del Po did to Fed at the USO final last year? I expect another young gun to beat Fed at the USO final again this year.
That was at the end of a long season where he won 2 GS titles and lost another in 5 sets in the finals. Your boy Nadal hasn't even made it to that part of the season in his fittest years.
 

swordtennis

Legend
I try to stick to good form always. I've started going to the gym again after a long break and I'm working with free weights. Close my eyes during lifting so I can visualize the muscles being worked.

Now if I understand you correctly about rest pauses, are your saying that I need to explode into the movement, rest at the top for a second or two and then slowly go into the eccentric part? (like tempo 2 -up, 2 - pause and 4 -down on the squat for example)
Got a bit backwards. Rest pause in the "basement" of the movement. Yes slowly lowering the weight down is good 2. Resistance builds strength and ability 2 handle heavier and heavier weight.
The rest pause is this. Use the flat bench as an example. Take the weight off the rack and lower it down onto your chest and Rest/pause it there. You want to inhale a huge breath and have your chest xpanded out. Mentally count to 3 or 5. then drive it up. Also make sure your form is correct becuase u want the weight being eaten up by your pecs and triceps predominately. Not so much the shoulders. So you should have a decent arch in your back. Chin pressed down not sticking up in the air.
Now do this with squats over a period of years and you will develop a "core" that will never go away even after you stop lifting. U want to go deep on the squats where you are basically squating all the way down. Go light and build up weight as your tendons and muscles in your legs and knees can stretch and strenghten up. I see guys who "lift" more weight than me but they do not have the density or core that I have due 2 them not performing their reps and sets correctly. Flailing away, half reps, etc... They wonder why I got the density while I only lift 2 or 3 days a week now.
 
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OddJack

G.O.A.T.
Poor Written article,

Nice response by Voicemail:


Federer doesn’t owe you anything, Ben. And this last sentence of your piece sums up a thesis that’s totally self absorbed; and completely disrespectful to Federer (since this public blog serves as a “publication”, it’s a way of assailing him). Tour players do NOT play for an audience; they play for themselves. Any audience is there to observe. They are not participants as if they were a Focus Group, whose demands and opinions must be digested by the actual participants and are somehow relevant to the outcome of the event they watch. Federer isn’t a politician seeking office soliciting you for a campaign contribution whereby you can demand a quid pro quo for your direct deposit to his campaign. He plays tennis because he wants to - not because you need him to. And does so now with an eye toward his goals, not your aesthetic satisfaction. Which is exactly as he should. This piece of yours smacks of a narcissism which attempts to smuggle in the ludicrous notion that athletes somehow are required to carry not just the toil of their own drive and effort to reach the heights they want to reach, but also the hopes, aspirations, expectations and the vicarious living of those who watch them ply their trade. It’s a bizarre theme you have: you blame Federer for the fact his loss on the court has somehow robbed you of your own desire to exalt in his job (which is a job your could only do at his level, even on his worst day, in your wettest dream). You’re angry because his loss or losses have somehow injured you. Memo to you. You do not have any “right” to demand he perform to your expectation so you can fill a vacuum in your own soul.

There’s a cultural moniker to describe this kind of rant you wrote: The High Chair King. Such a mentality reverts to insistence on “being catered to” when the instant gratification is delayed or derailed. Like it’s origin, infants in high chairs make such demands because they have no inkling the world in fact does NOT revolve around their demands. They can be forgiven because they are in fact infants. In adults, it’s inexcusable.

Federer is going to be just fine for the rest of his career. He doesn’t need to carry your aspirations. Get a life.
 

Cyan

Hall of Fame
That was at the end of a long season where he won 2 GS titles and lost another in 5 sets in the finals. Your boy Nadal hasn't even made it to that part of the season in his fittest years.
Eh, we are talking about Fed here. And how it won't be easy to keep on winning the USO.
 

Totai

Professional
He didn't complain about the tests. He complained about the same thing that Murray did. Does this mean that Murray is doping or he doesn't want drug tests?
Besides, you like Murray. How can you like a guy that complains about "drug testing"?
I love Nadal just as much as you love "the skinny old goat".
Can you please post a picture of nadal not complaining about tests. tyvm
 

akv89

Hall of Fame
I was under the impression that Federer is the defending champion at two of the 1000's currently. I wouldn't berate him for three lousy tournaments. He's been pretty darn consistent for the previous 5-6 years.
 
I agree that these tournaments are important, yet I can understand the reason why he is losing these kind of matches.
I do think he is getting old and comparing to 2005 or 2006 is not fair. He cannot play every tournament at peak level and not pay the price in slams. You cannot peak throughout the year, only at certain events. This is certainly the case for older players.
I also think Federer once said he never played without pain and that he was lucky to not get injured until now. I think Federer is considering this when playing at the masters. If he plays at his best in all the masters he will destroy his body like Nadal. When you are older it takes longer to recover. I also think his mind is not always completely focussed on tennis anymore, his children are more important now. Tennis fans will have to live with that.
 

Rippy

Hall of Fame
^^ So you think he's aged significantly since AO? He was pretty good at the ao from what I saw.
Sorry, I don't follow. Of course he was very good at the AO... And do you think he'd be as good at slams if he tried his absolute hardest to win every Masters event? :???:

I agree his last few losses have been rather suspect, but he's usually not quite as bad as that.
 
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nikdom

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Got a bit backwards. Rest pause in the "basement" of the movement. Yes slowly lowering the weight down is good 2. Resistance builds strength and ability 2 handle heavier and heavier weight.
The rest pause is this. Use the flat bench as an example. Take the weight off the rack and lower it down onto your chest and Rest/pause it there. You want to inhale a huge breath and have your chest xpanded out. Mentally count to 3 or 5. then drive it up. Also make sure your form is correct becuase u want the weight being eaten up by your pecs and triceps predominately. Not so much the shoulders. So you should have a decent arch in your back. Chin pressed down not sticking up in the air.
Now do this with squats over a period of years and you will develop a "core" that will never go away even after you stop lifting. U want to go deep on the squats where you are basically squating all the way down. Go light and build up weight as your tendons and muscles in your legs and knees can stretch and strenghten up. I see guys who "lift" more weight than me but they do not have the density or core that I have due 2 them not performing their reps and sets correctly. Flailing away, half reps, etc... They wonder why I got the density while I only lift 2 or 3 days a week now.
Thanks man... makes sense. Will try it with squats. Good to know you can go deep on the squats. Lots of books/people say not to!
 
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nikdom

Guest
Sorry, I don't follow. Of course he was very good at the AO... And do you think he'd be as good at slams if he tried his absolute hardest to win every Masters event? :???:
I took your original statement to read as saying "he cannot be good at masters and slams because he's aging". I see now that you mean to say that he cannot be good at the masters as much *because* he's so good at the slams.

Its an interesting viewpoint you bring there. There may be something to it. But there are two elements to the non-performance at Masters that are jarring.

One, he could be playing a dangerous game. Enough losses during the season and you embolden opponents. He could also get unlucky at one slam and everybody would lump together the masters losses and the slam loss to declare him 'done'. At the very least, that sort of chatter has got to irritate him if he's indeed tanking/underperforming at the masters.

Two, from a fan perspective, he cannot expect his fans to turn on and off for just the slams. The reply from 'Voicemail' that OddJack referenced is eloquent but misses a critical point. If we have no right as fans to demand anything of Federer, then he should also live just on tournament earnings. The reason Wilson, Nike, Jura and others pay Roger is because he keeps folks like me happy and hopefully buying their products because I'm a fan. Sure, as one person, I or the author of the article have no right to demand anything. Collectively, as fans, we do have a lot of clout.

The day people stop tuning it because they know he's not sure to perform, things will cascade up and hit his pocketbook.
 

Rippy

Hall of Fame
I took your original statement to read as saying "he cannot be good at masters and slams because he's aging". I see now that you mean to say that he cannot be good at the masters as much *because* he's so good at the slams.

Its an interesting viewpoint you bring there. There may be something to it. But there are two elements to the non-performance at Masters that are jarring.

One, he could be playing a dangerous game. Enough losses during the season and you embolden opponents. He could also get unlucky at one slam and everybody would lump together the masters losses and the slam loss to declare him 'done'. At the very least, that sort of chatter has got to irritate him if he's indeed tanking/underperforming at the masters.

Two, from a fan perspective, he cannot expect his fans to turn on and off for just the slams. The reply from 'Voicemail' that OddJack referenced is eloquent but misses a critical point. If we have no right as fans to demand anything of Federer, then he should also live just on tournament earnings. The reason Wilson, Nike, Jura and others pay Roger is because he keeps folks like me happy and hopefully buying their products because I'm a fan. Sure, as one person, I or the author of the article have no right to demand anything. Collectively, as fans, we do have a lot of clout.

The day people stop tuning it because they know he's not sure to perform, things will cascade up and hit his pocketbook.
I meant that if he put in maximum effort at Masters, he'd probably burn himself out, and not play so well at slams. The question is, and this is assuming Federer can no longer win Masters titles aswell as slams like he did 04-06, would his fans rather see him win the slams or the Masters?

You may think I'm attempting to justify the unjustifiable, but people always seem to act like, "well, he's amazing at slams, so he should try harder in Masters," failing to take into account that trying harder in Masters may negatively impact on his slam performance.
 
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nikdom

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I meant that if he put in maximum effort at Masters, he'd probably burn himself out, and not play so well at slams. The question is, and this is assuming Federer can no longer win Masters titles aswell as slams like he did 04-06, would his fans rather see him win the slams or the Masters?
Don't know man... that's hard to say. I think there is enough time between the AO and FO that he can win one hard court master's and one clay court master's without burning out. If he's really that burnt out, then I guess he can't care too much about that number 1 ranking. He keeps bringing up the fact that he regained it and loves being at no.1. More than us fans, perhaps he's the one who is confused about what he wants.
 

swordtennis

Legend
Thanks man... makes sense. Will try it with squats. Good to know you can go deep on the squats. Lots of books/people say not to!
One reason why most men in the Western societies have thin legs and massive pumped upper bodies. Go deep just easy and light and build up the strength. Dont hunch over. Keep that back straight and keep your head up 2 help keep straight. Dont use any crutches like wrist straps on the dead lift or belts in the beginning. U want to strengthen the lower back and all the muscles and joints. I never have knee problems like most men and I think it is due to the full complete movements. None of this half rep stiff crud I see these people doing.
Dont overdue anything and get good rest!
 

Rippy

Hall of Fame
Don't know man... that's hard to say. I think there is enough time between the AO and FO that he can win one hard court master's and one clay court master's without burning out. If he's really that burnt out, then I guess he can't care too much about that number 1 ranking. He keeps bringing up the fact that he regained it and loves being at no.1. More than us fans, perhaps he's the one who is confused about what he wants.
Yeah I do agree with that, he should be able to win one or two masters. I was speaking more from the point of view that people shouldn't expect him to be as good in masters as slams.
 

P_Agony

Banned
I fully agree with the article and I am disappointed with Fed. Granted, if I'd believe for a second he lost when he played well and was simply out played, I wouldn't have said anything, but his performence is so bad at times it seems he doesn't really care about the crowd and his fans. I have no doubt in my mind that Federer would have straight-setted Gulbis if only he cared a bit more.
 

P_Agony

Banned
I said this a while ago and Davey25 thinks I'm wrong. But because of Super Saturday it will be tough for Fed to keep on winning the USO vs all these young guns....... Fed's best chance is Wimbledon because most of the young guns stink on grass. You saw what Del Po did to Fed at the USO final last year? I expect another young gun to beat Fed at the USO final again this year.
Delpo did what exactly? Won in a tough five-setter against a Fed with a lost 1st serve?

When Fed is playing well (like he doesn against Djokovic at the Open usually) I will always pick him to beat Del Potro.
 

Cyan

Hall of Fame
Delpo did what exactly? Won in a tough five-setter against a Fed with a lost 1st serve?

When Fed is playing well (like he doesn against Djokovic at the Open usually) I will always pick him to beat Del Potro.
Del Po who had never beaten him, did it at a slam final for the first time. Another young player can do it again at the USO this yr.
 
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