Yeah, I hate that Nadal is forced on me like that. And on top of that I'm forced to like him? No.
Not to mention Rafa's total disrespect for tennis history and for anyone not playing his brand of tennis.
Why So Much Nadal Hate Here?
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Not to mention Rafa's total disrespect for tennis history and for anyone not playing his brand of tennis.
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
True. He has gone as far as saying that Pete Sampras' style "isn't sport." Obviously because it's something he can't do.
We shouldnt say nads is a doper without proof but the rest of your comments are stupid and illogical
Hilarious shall we post pics of nads face during a forehand and feds? Of videos of roger practice sessions looking like a old man playing tenni really casually vs nads running like a mad man in even practice. Nads makes a drop shot look like hard work
Also fed was repeatdly in slam finals, semis.and repeatddly beat the then no 1 novak and murray. He didbt just pop up after 5 tears nads did and does so.his whole career constantly.missing stuff
Not to mention Rafa not respecting the rules at all. Such arrogance. Nadal is a bully who acts like a victim. I really don't like that.
AnOctorokForDinner
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Executing natural gifts correctly to the extent great sportspeople do takes genius, yes. For instance, Karlovic was always going to have a huge serve due to his height, but his serve is also very well-placed and varies decently, hence the massive servebotting. Nadal's athleticism isn't 'genius', but his shotmaking is, especially on the FH side - not as much as Federer's, but Fed is one of a kind entirely.
Ralph
Hall of Fame
Post of the year.
Red Rick
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I'm pretty sure Murray has received more hatin' for continuously losing to Djokovic than for winning stuff.
True, but I call that great athletic ability and not genius.
And yes, Fed is one of a kind. People like Nadal will come more, we already had someone like Nadal, Borg was similar.
Many clay courters today are similar to Nadal, he just does everything better than them and is mentally tougher.
But, you can't replicate Fed's style.
Ralph
Hall of Fame
You mean, it hasn't been replicated yet. It would be unwise to think it never will be. Perhaps even more improved.
VarmasPermo
Semi-Pro
Because he continuously cheats: gets time violation warnings, got fined for multiple cases of on court coaching, bullying Lukas Rosol at Wimbledon, demanding more clay tournaments, demanding WTF to be on clay, complaining that the season is too long, telling a lie about not taking anything to be back quicker after injury (when in fact he took steroid for it :
http://archive.li/c2Ljg/81c34234977fa959e4af786dfebf7f228524a945.jpg )
He also grunts too loudly which is unfair and distracting towards the opponents.
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He also grunts too loudly which is unfair and distracting towards the opponents.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
I think it goes beyond hate and into psychosis with many
funny thing is there are athletes that are disliked in their sport by most, and even by fans of other sports even if they don't really follow the hated players sport that much, just because they really are a-holes on court, and often have really questionable behavior off of it
Nadal is only hated in tennis by a subset of a subset, Fed fans in particular, on this board, the hardcore..the vast majority of fans of tennis and fans of other sports that just know him casually like him and admire him greatly
True, but how likely is that? So many things have to fall into place, that it's almost impossible.
As far as I know most non tennis fans hate grunting. Everyone says that they can't stand it. Not with just Nadal with everyone and with women too.
And Nadal is not hated, he's just disliked because of his antics and gamesmanship.
You have no idea what hate means. Hate would mean writing to the ATP and calling for Nadal to retire.
Also, I don't go around disliking him, I just don't watch him or his matches.
AnOctorokForDinner
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Borg's athleticism was similar, but his shotmaking was different and more varied, that's why he could also win 5 Wimbledons on fast grass, developing the ability to serve big under pressure and regularly come in. His 'one-and-a-half-handed' backhand was also one of a kind, you should check it out.
Federer's way of hitting the ball isn't unique/irreplicable either, what makes him special is the overall variety and the ability to execute all of it at a top level. Federer proved capable of mastering any style - not everything to perfection, which is of course impossible, but name anything - serve-and-volley, attacking net tennis, aggressive baselining, defensive baselining, counterpunching, junkballing, dropshot mania, even occasional topspin grinding - he can do it if need be. That's what enabled him to propser besides the natural athletic/precision peak and achieve such longevity and general beauty and GOATness.
Gary Duane
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I've never understood it. I think the top players are all very likeable people. I think the only players I ever disliked were Nastase and McEnroe. Nastase turned into a silly old man, but I mostly like Mac now. I dislike people for their behavior, not the way they play a sport.
killerboi2
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I'm not gonna accuse anyone of PED's but what all members of the big 3 have done has been absolutely incredible in my opinion. They have all taken the physical aspect of the game to a new level that I wouldn't have even thought possible. All 3 have contributed in different ways.
octobrina10
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Hmm. It obviously applies to the guy in your avatar.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Nadal hasn't captured the imagination of fans as Fed and Djok have. It's natural in sport (although not as much in today's tennis) for fans of one player to resent the other (although Djokovic/Nadal fans are not uncommon at all). It's due to his humble, reserved, un-Hollywood personality (Djokovic and Federer are always the center of attention, but Nadal is much more down-to-earth) and his playstyle (he doesn't go for the flashy stuff and his game isn't as aesthetically pleasing as Federer's fluidity or Djokovic's accuracy; Nadal prefers to scrap and bullfight his way through. To his fans (and me), that is the most admirable trait.
But I would bet that in 20 years, the most talked-about player will be Nadal; how he revolutionized the game and forced his competition to work even harder, and how he played through pain, and suffered for the title as nobody had done before. Similarly, in the late 80's, the most popular players were Edberg and Becker. Their tennis was more exciting to watch than the grinding baseline game of the stoic, robot-like No.1 Lendl. Lendl was one of the least loved top players, and was often rooted against. Fast forward 30 years. While Edberg and Becker are still popular and well-remembered today, they aren't credited with revolutionizing the game and creating the baseline tennis that has dominated ever since. That award, as well as the most important player of the time period, without doubt, goes to Ivan Lendl.
So don't worry if Nadal is underappreciated, disliked, and rooted against today. He will be remembered for a very long time, and his impact on the game may last much longer than that of Federer and Djokovic.
marc45
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He'd be a great captain on any team game he played, and I think he could coach effectively too
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Red Rick
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skip1969
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My emphasis, because it rings so true.
Any poaster here from before the rise of Nadal (and the Fedal Wars I and II) . . . and there aren't many of them left, can attest to what this board looked like pre-Nadal . . . pre Fed Express, even. The sheer ridiculousness of the fanboys and girls was enough to decimate this board and render it unrecognizable. The quality of this board went straight down the toilet and a majority of sane, knowledgeable, fair and balanced poasters left, never to return. I myself settled for logging on just for the Slams, and by the finals I was usually gone because the lameness levels were just too high.
I attach myself to a player mostly because of his/game. And I've always hated Nadal's game. His grinding from miles behind the baseline; his wonky strokes, his grunts and grimaces. Add to that all of his other nonsense, like his gamesmanship and time-wasting, and I can proudly say that I am no fan of his. I'm sure he's a swell guy. He's one of the greats. And I respect what he has achieved in the sport. Credit where credit is due. But that's about it from me.
Yet though I'm not fan of Nadal, I'm even less a fan . . . of his fans.
mtommer
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It's not that people don't believe others are doing it, it just that Nadal and Djokovic seem to be so blatant in their use, in the same way Armstrong was, due to the physical requirements for their style of play contradicting human endurance capabilities (like Armstrong). In other words, based on how those two play, you should be able to wear them down physically deeper into the match yet somehow they never seem to lack for energy. Before bringing up Federer, although I readily admit he could very well be juicing too, he has always demonstrated ups and downs in his play during matches, and his success is more attributed to his natural playing instinct and anticipation rather than dominating speed (though of course he is fast). Murray is another example of someone who goes through natural ups and downs, as a human should during play.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Fed worshipers, like you, have always commanded everyone to worship your idol. Nothing new.
killerboi2
Hall of Fame
Then you can't really be speaking about fairness and balance on the boards lmao. I feel the same way about Federer. I've despised the man and his fans since 2004, maybe even 2003. Will always be rooting against the guy and I also think Federer as a player is vastly overrated and his slam count inflated by the weak era of 2004-2007.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Hmm. Have you checked who is physically (appearance) very similar to Armstrong ?
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Saw this before with your shirtless comparison pics. The answer to the question is every cyclist that ever lived before you say Federer.
AlexanderTheGreat08
Hall of Fame
Nadal made tennis competitive, Without him Federer will be at 25+ Majors, Djokovic made it competitive too , Without those two Federer will be standing at 30+ Majors, They saved tennis
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
And why can't I speak about fairness and balance?
Only you and I don't feel the same way, because I don't "despise" Nadal. How can I? I don't even know the guy. So how could I despise a guy for over a decade when we've never even met? That kind of irrational nonsense is why this board got trashed. Because for years,"fans" on one side have felt the need to despise a complete stranger for his achievements simply because they happen to worship the other guy instead.
My original post was a lot more fair and balanced than the crap you just spewed about Fed. And I'm not even an avid Fed fan. Stan is my man.
aman92
Legend
Djokovic more popular than Nadal? Rofllmao
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
It's always gonna be a combination of physical and mental abilities z
mental fluctuations dilute the physical observations. But going by other sport, human nature and simple information about the lack of scrutiny on tennis I don't find it hard to believe that PEDs are rife in any sport
augustobt
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Nope. I don't have time to command anyone, unlike you, who has time to edit and provide biased subtitles to anything. You're one of the few cases here where "get a life, dude" really applies.
MichaelNadal
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No one hates Nadal 
octobrina10
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Hmm. According to your post, you have had plenty of time to thoroughly monitor the TTW:
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Yeah I don't get where the trademark Fed fan insecurity comes from. I'm a huge Fed fan and I'm guilty of it too for sure, but why I'm so insecure I may never know.
There's no reason to be - yet here we are.
stringertom
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So much h8 4 u from VB 4 this dooming prognostication.
Because he's a cheater and whiner. His fans are like Republicans, their existence is based on Fed hate. They scream about h2h and have proclaimed Rafa Goat years ago no matter what he does. Rafa is known for using fake MTOs, cheating tactics, complain about being made to follow rules, ban empires who dare enforce them etc all under the facade of being 'humble'.
No one in tennis history past or present has ever doubted Fed is the greatest talent to ever play the sport. Everyone except Rafa fans. There's never going to be a 'Rafa Funhouse'.
No one in tennis history past or present has ever doubted Fed is the greatest talent to ever play the sport. Everyone except Rafa fans. There's never going to be a 'Rafa Funhouse'.
Ralph
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Never question your happiness, unless it involves hurting another.
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...because he’s a sweaty, filthy neon pirate.
...because he specifically learned to play lefty.
...because he grunts like a pig being porked.
...because he refuses to let Fed retire in peace.
...because he specifically learned to play lefty.
...because he grunts like a pig being porked.
...because he refuses to let Fed retire in peace.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
why not ?
there's never enough of it...
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there's never enough of it...
as @dudeski once said:
(a perfect and simple depiction of its abominable and unbearable presence)
i was counting on grigorius to get rid of the unflushable bùlltùrd, but it seems we'll need to find another way...
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OP is projecting so much. It's not hate, just not liking his style and antics.
He even gets credit, he is clay goat, what more do you want? He can't be the grass goat with 2 W titles and HC goat with 4 HC titles, it's not hate.
Nadal fans are so biased that they think it's hate if a guy with 2 W titles isn't put in the same breath as a guy with 8.
Grow up, people will disagree with your opinions, you can't deny that.
He even gets credit, he is clay goat, what more do you want? He can't be the grass goat with 2 W titles and HC goat with 4 HC titles, it's not hate.
Nadal fans are so biased that they think it's hate if a guy with 2 W titles isn't put in the same breath as a guy with 8.
Grow up, people will disagree with your opinions, you can't deny that.
stringertom
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Bernardes banning, due to this hilarity, was a small personal sacrifice to pay for mankind's benefit:
stringertom
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Sonnet 43, How Do I Hate Thee
by Vive Le Barrett Browning
How do I hate thee, let me count the ways:
I hate thee to the depth of your butt scratches
To the breadth and height my soul can reach
When seeing you loose the fight
For the end of being ideal in grace
Always searching for an excuse
I hate thee for the most kneed of quiet
Always the grunt to disturb my peace
I hate thee freely as all others strive for right
by Vive Le Barrett Browning
How do I hate thee, let me count the ways:
I hate thee to the depth of your butt scratches
To the breadth and height my soul can reach
When seeing you loose the fight
For the end of being ideal in grace
Always searching for an excuse
I hate thee for the most kneed of quiet
Always the grunt to disturb my peace
I hate thee freely as all others strive for right
Boom-Boom
Legend
hes an awesome player and athelete with a unique and effective style... genius though? No. In his own books he admits his ONLY strategy for fed is to hit to the backhand and for djokovic he actually says there is NO strategy apart from play at his highest level. Against both players he had absolutely no answer when they had an answer apart from wait for decline. He doesnt have multiple options
physical capabilities is a type of intelligence so I would like to give it him there but as he has such poor body awareness and is constantly injured and overplays and is unable to change his grinding style I cant give it to him there either
nads fans hypocriscy exposed again. Feds groin injury at 36 years old 6month off, and is actively hampered in movement is fake, when nads does it again now and commentators even say he is moving completely fine lol its not cheating
AS USUAL NADS BUBBLE FANS OWN LOGIC COMES BACK TO DESTROY THEIR OWN BOY
sheer lack of variety and options, if you really are injured change your bloody style of play, no continue to run around like a headless chicken! Lol limping in between points and then running around a headless chicken in points!
FITNESS IS PART OF THE GAME
RG 2018 IN THE BAG, NADS WILL TANK THE REST OF THE SEASON AND BE THRE FRESHEST PLAYER OUT THERE IN THE CLAY SEASON
AS USUAL NADS BUBBLE FANS OWN LOGIC COMES BACK TO DESTROY THEIR OWN BOY
sheer lack of variety and options, if you really are injured change your bloody style of play, no continue to run around like a headless chicken! Lol limping in between points and then running around a headless chicken in points!
FITNESS IS PART OF THE GAME
RG 2018 IN THE BAG, NADS WILL TANK THE REST OF THE SEASON AND BE THRE FRESHEST PLAYER OUT THERE IN THE CLAY SEASON
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Tennease
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Yeah now it seems he's playing possum by limping instead of walking normally.
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