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Lol no.Especially since Nadal, at his uninjured best, is better. (B.O.A.T)
Lol no.Especially since Nadal, at his uninjured best, is better. (B.O.A.T)
It seems to be either jealousy or insecurity. Also the age difference makes it hard to definitively compare them. Federer was utterly dominant until Nadal got out of his teens then Nadal dominated along with Djokovic. When a player is knocked off his or her pedestal it is always tough for the fan base to take.
I do feel Nadal ending 2017 no.1 has really increased the hostility though. Like you I just think both should be treasured as we won’t see anything remotely like either ever again.
Like you I just think both should be treasured as we won’t see anything remotely like either ever again.
Could it be his looks? Men posters in here are jealous?
Could it be the H2H thing?
Those two issues is what I tend to think why specially male Fed fans in here hate Nadal.
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Could it be his looks? Men posters in here are jealous?
Could it be the H2H thing?
Those two issues is what I tend to think why specially male Fed fans in here hate Nadal.
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I think everyone not being a male Fed fan would think thats the reason why its so much hate for Rafa from that "camp". Its not really rocket science.It is normal: after all, it is you.
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It's hard to ignore the Technicolor Pachyderm in the room.I see plenty of troll threads from every fan(atic) base.
I just talk to the reasonable people and ignore the rest.
Just speaking for myself, this guy is not the least bit jealous of Nadal's looks. Now, if it were another lefty Spaniard, I wholeheartedly endorse Judmoo's cougar ways of longing for her chosen prey.Could it be his looks? Men posters in here are jealous?
Could it be the H2H thing?
Those two issues is what I tend to think why specially male Fed fans in here hate Nadal.
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I was told by my dad to not fall for southern Europeans, and I never didJust speaking for myself, this guy is not the least bit jealous of Nadal's looks. Now, if it were another lefty Spaniard, I wholeheartedly endorse Judmoo's cougar ways of longing for her chosen prey.
Just speaking for myself, this guy is not the least bit jealous of Nadal's looks. Now, if it were another lefty Spaniard, I wholeheartedly endorse Judmoo's cougar ways of longing for her chosen prey.
In those dire straits, there's an ultra slim chance I start playing the home team.So what you're saying is that if you had to... like your life depended on it... you'd Feli?![]()
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Becuase he whines about everything to the media in an attempt to get things changed to suit him.
Because he gets umpires banned from his matches.
Because he constantly breaks the time rule between serves.
Because he often uses gamesmanship to get an advantage during a match.
Because he has often been coached during matches even tho it is against the rules.
Because his reputation as being "humble" is a joke.
Because he is not Federer.
That about covers it, i think?
Yeah I’m so jealous of Rafa’s pulsating and amazing biceps.Could it be his looks? Men posters in here are jealous?
Could it be the H2H thing?
Those two issues is what I tend to think why specially male Fed fans in here hate Nadal.
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Don't invert the logic here. Many of Nadal's fans here just like the guy's looks. They don't give a damn about his tennis, antics, nothing.Could it be his looks? Men posters in here are jealous?
I am a NY Yankee fan but not old enough to have been around for the original Sultan of Swat, who was quite Sewretchian in girth from the old newsreel footage of Ruth circling the bases in a SexiSuri trot.I thought you were a Sultan of Swing?
Feli is a beautiful man. Not in the sewretchian way, but still.
Legend ? Arguably.
If only from the angle of achievemens,maybe YES.
If taking something else besides achievements, such as sportsmanship into consideration,ABSOLUTE NO!
A real LEGNED would never do something so bad that nadal ever did on court.[/QUOTE
I started to respond but then I said “nah, if this person can’t understand that Nadal is an absolute legend of the game of Tennis, there’s no use writing a response.”
I am a NY Yankee fan but not old enough to have been around for the original Sultan of Swat, who was quite Sewretchian in girth from the old newsreel footage of Ruth circling the bases in a SexiSuri trot.
Only one was not a loser!Babe, Sexi Suri and Agent Orange. The brag pack.
I don't miss anything, since I don't have a eegnoar list.It's hard to ignore the Technicolor Pachyderm in the room.
You also miss all the phun!![]()
I'll reword that for you "He is the only player to have ever consistently beaten and at some points owned the most popular tennis player to play the game (Federer) and so therefore a lot people dislike him because of that"People just don't like Nadal. He has a repugnant game, especially with his unrelenting harassment of his opponents' backhands, is self-serving (rule changes, wants WTF on clay, etc.), and used too much gamesmanship over the years. And it doesn't help that he's socially awkward/an OCD case. And the grunting.
It would be one thing if he was only around for a few years, but he has overstayed his welcome with most tennis fans by at least a decade.
This poster is actually more annoying than the trolls - the pretence at objectivity when all the "facts" he presents just happen to "prove" that his guy is the best is ridiculous.
Completely agree. Drop the pretence. Drop the act. Atleast own up to the fact that you're biased.
... and let's not forget the rusty peak constipated quacking bullConstipated Rafa
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You are/were hedging your bets/disappointments.
That is why you were constantly in a knee-jerk mode, when Nadal was going through a completely normal for a player with so much mileage phase of a slump before rebounding to win more Majors.
That is how I know that you are a complete fake, when you throw all those stats/"memories" around with the hope that you "get it".
If you were indeed a good student/researcher of the game, you would have seen those slumps, as they are evidently presented in a different way, throughout the tennis history.
You also haven't watched long enough tennis to know it from your own experience.
The post I am quoting says more about your knowledge of the game than about what the odds of this or that to happen are/were.
You always speak in hindsight and your thoughts are of the blandest and most inaccurate, if there is even a slight chance of a follow up of the logic that you use when you analyse facts that way.
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Nailed it. This is the same joke of a poster who kept harping on about how 'lucky' Federer was to win last year's AO final. He's no different than other fanboys in that sense, but his MO is to put on this "objective student of the game/historian" front.
Everyone sees through it and laughs.
This poster is actually more annoying than the trolls - the pretence at objectivity when all the "facts" he presents just happen to "prove" that his guy is the best is ridiculous.
Nadal is an absolute Warrior. This guy is a BEAST like tennis has never seen.
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How dare you!.. . . Leave us alone and let us troll 'capy' in peace.. . .
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Every thread that's about Nadal gets like 400 pages. Jeez.
I'll reword that for you "He is the only player to have ever consistently beaten and at some points owned the most popular tennis player to play the game (Federer) and so therefore a lot people dislike him because of that"
... and let's not forget the rusty peak constipated quacking bull
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an unparalleled level of sheer class... undoubtedly![]()
Whatever helps you sleep at night. You guys are obsessed with records, because you need to use Federer's success to compensate for the lack of your own whereas we just enjoy watching Nadal play.
Don't invert the logic here. Many of Nadal's fans here just like the guy's looks. They don't give a damn about his tennis, antics, nothing.
Really went and put it all in the line during the Cilic match and never once quit! O wait
Warrior indeed
In regards to @Mustard - Two things about him.
He has never claimed to be objective. Take a look at his name first of all MusTARD - Nadal is his guy right now, and naturally he puts him in a better light than others might. But, he never claimed otherwise either.
The other thing about him, he doesn't resort to personal attacks that I know of, in all the time I have known him, he is one of the more decent Nadal fans. Yeah, he knows I come after his stats hard at times when I feel he isn't showing the full truth, but he's OK with it. We don't have to agree with everything that everyone puts out there, if it isn't what you feel it should be, point it out and end it there, like I have done with him in the past.
Indeed. And that dislike is at disturbing levels in some people.
Pure gold.
Guy wins ten french opens.
NOT a warrior.
I suppose I should take it as a compliment. I've riled them, so I must be making some success in building up Nadal's case. I expect others to argue back at me with tennis arguments, that's fine. There's plenty of people building up Federer's case. Isn't the whole point to big up your favourite players?
He is a warrior (well every ATG is) but winning 10 FOs is hardly the evidence of that given that he played two 5 setters combined in all of his runs to the title there, he's so far ahead of the pack there it's ridiculous.
People don't lose to Nadal on clay because he intimidates them with his indomitable warrior spirit but because they can't deal with his movement and especially his strokes on that surface. The guy's a topspin artist, he won last FO by basically blowing everyone off court. No one can match the heavyness of his shots, the angles, placement and the consistency.
I swear people here really too often mistake Nadal for a Chang like player or something.
How about the 2012 AO with djoker?
Or the AO 09 five hour semi followed by the 24 hour turnaround to go another five?
Or the AO 17 when he did the same again?
It is laughable to not consider the guy an absolute physical beast.
Speaking of Chang, Stefanki said Nadal is often compared to speed demons like Borg, Hewitt, Chang, but what is remarkable about Nadal is hat he plays with crazy foot speed but is not a small frame guy, like the others.
He is a warrior (well every ATG is) but winning 10 FOs is hardly the evidence of that given that he played two 5 setters combined in all of his runs to the title there, he's so far ahead of the pack there it's ridiculous.
People don't lose to Nadal on clay because he intimidates them with his indomitable warrior spirit but because they can't deal with his movement and especially his strokes on that surface. The guy's a topspin artist, he won last FO by basically blowing everyone off court. No one can match the heavyness of his shots, the angles, placement and the consistency.
I swear people here really too often mistake Nadal for a Chang like player or something.
Let me expand on this a bit. A very big reason why Nadal is so dominant at RG is because of the size of the PC court, the massive amount of space to the back and sides allows two things for Nadal. The first is that he now can chase down more balls because his movement is not hindered by a lack of space in any direction, and the secondly, due to the court dimensions being what they are, he can hit outrageous angles from even more areas of the court. Why is he more vulnerable in Rome, when the courts themselves are very close in character? Because the court dimensions are not optimum for him, a big hitter or an aggressive player can hurt him a lot more, because his movement is restricted. Why doesn't he like playing on SL court, apart from it being slightly faster, are those dimensions.
So, not only his top spin lefty game perfectly designed for clay, but PC court is perfectly design for his playing style.
but what if...Take a look at his name first of all MusTARD - Nadal is his guy right now, and naturally he puts him in a better light than others might. But, he never claimed otherwise either.
Actually, he had almost two days off after the 2009 AO semi but regardless it's besides the point.
I didn't say he wasn't a warrior (quite the opposite, I said he is), I said him dominating the FO doesn't prove he's a warrior because he rarely has to fight there as he's usually toying with the competition.
Another point I made was that Nadal's baseline firepower on clay is underrated, people only talk about his speed and mental toughness.