mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yes, but why slow down the surfaces even more? Wimb had ok speed in 2003-2004, Rebound Ace had ok speed in the early to late 2000’s, USO had good speed in the 2000’s and even Plexicushion wasn’t too slow in 2008-2009.
Why were courts slowed down/ Homogenised in the first place?
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Slam-only winners across the 4 slams from '90:
AO - Korda '98, Johansson '02
RG - Gomez '90, Muster '95, Moya '98, Costa '02, Ferrero '03, Gaudio '04
WB - Stich '91, Krajicek '96, Ivanisevic '01
US - Roddick '04, del Potro '09, Cilic '14, Thiem '20, Medvedev '21
Costa started string of 3 straight RG's. US had the latest 5 slam-only winners.
AO - Korda '98, Johansson '02
RG - Gomez '90, Muster '95, Moya '98, Costa '02, Ferrero '03, Gaudio '04
WB - Stich '91, Krajicek '96, Ivanisevic '01
US - Roddick '04, del Potro '09, Cilic '14, Thiem '20, Medvedev '21
Costa started string of 3 straight RG's. US had the latest 5 slam-only winners.
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Holmes
Legend
They were dumb enough to post an infographic with one serve as their sample size, so yes. You keep hiding behind the name "the BBC" as if this changes the fact that this was a shallow infographic created to grab viewer interest and not a scientific study.
Eventually, even you will have to stop posting this silly claim, and it will go the route of all your Federer record posts: the endless void of oblivion.
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So true. Pete's retire over 2 decade ago and they haven't got over it. Federer is better and more successful on/off court, universally more popular and beloved. Pete fans like Herald are still here today to bashed Federer, hop on other player(s) bandwagon(i.e. Nole) for an opportunity to diminish Federer's value. It's an agenda driven.
Instead of getting off his high horse and further embarrassing himself, one of them is in denial about the 2008 grass is slower(and higher bounce) than the 2003 grass, thinking he knows better and has more knowledge than the BBC
-D). Constant rambling because Federer is in his head.That is an understatement
According to the players, old Rebound Ace was fast compared to the Aussie's new version of plexipave. Listen to what the players said back in 2010 (before the surface was further slowed down this year):
"I thought it was going to be faster, but it seems to be a lot slower... much slower than Rebound Ace. The balls get fluffy here."
-- Jelena Jankovic.
"I just don't know what they were thinking... The ball pops up and doesn't penetrate."
-- Mats Wilander, the former Australian Open champion
“The bounce on the court is different ... also the balls get quicker as they get older at the U.S. Open whereas here they slow down a lot.”
-- Andy Murray
“It’s a very rough surface, so the balls fluff up. I noticed it on my shoes as well. I get through shoes a lot more quickly here than, say, at the U.S. Open.”
--- Kim Clijsters
"People are complaining there isn't much net play. If they keep going like this, there won't be any."
-- Roger Federer
"The balls are fluffing up a lot at the moment. I mean the court surface, because it's a new court, it's a bit rough. It's like sandpaper."
-- Winner of the Australian Open wildcard play-offs, Joseph Sirianni.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
2003 US Open for Roddick.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
This is 100% totally false!
The courts were not slowed down and are not homogenized
Every year Wimbledon is the fastest court.
End of story!
Let’s stop the ignorant nonsense
https://ultimatetennisstatistics.com/tournamentEvent?tournamentEventId=3448&tab=results
2008 Wim that Nadal won speed *79/100*
https://ultimatetennisstatistics.com/tournamentEvent?tournamentEventId=3517&tab=results
2009 Wim speed *83/100*
https://ultimatetennisstatistics.com/tournamentEvent?tournamentEventId=3573&tab=results
2010 Wim that Nadal won speed *88/100*
https://ultimatetennisstatistics.com/tournamentEvent?tournamentEventId=3849&tab=results
2014 Wim that Novak won speed *89/100*
https://ultimatetennisstatistics.com/tournamentEvent?tournamentEventId=3095&tab=results
2003 Wim that Federer won speed *62/100*
The reality is that the courts became faster overtime.
If you have a source for actual data, please feel free to post it. Otherwise no one cares to hear your opinion. This is about facts and real scientific data.
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Stop spamming
Courts speed is not pace index, it is how the ball is perceived to the receiver. The bounce which was lower and uneven has become very even and high from the mid 2000s, that is what slowing down means, it is all about bounce height. Low-bounce grass courts are harder to play because the surface's low friction causes the ball to skid, bounce quicker and rarely rise, requiring players to adapt their strategy and execute shots with speed and precision. Players need quick reflexes to react to the fast, low ball, maintain stability on a potentially slippery surface, and adjust their footwork and swing to a lower height, all while dealing with unpredictable ball skids.
Novak would have struggled in the 1990s and Nadal would struggle a lot more than Djokovic, whoever likes high bounce courts and is slow in shot making needing time to make their strokes are all gonna struggle a lot. Federer and Hewitt type players would relish the 1990s.
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jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
If you don’t have years of scientific data whatsoever, you need to refrain from posting and replying.
Your feelings and your cross eyed observations have no place here
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