Wilander on Why Murray May Be the Greatest

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Britain's Andy Murray marked his long-awaited comeback at Wimbledon with a tough four-set win over Nikoloz Basilashvili and Mats Wilander paid tribute to him afterwards.

Murray appeared to be well on course to saunter through with a straight-sets victory to make his return a comfortable one when the match took a crazy turn for him.

The 34-year-old, who has seemingly endured no end of injury woes over the last few years, delighted the Centre Court crowd as he roared into a 6-4 6-3 5-0 lead and was seemingly cruising.

Yet somehow, Basilashvili staged a remarkable recovery when facing near-certain defeat, to break four times in succession and win seven games on the bounce. He even saved two match points.

But after the players left the court and the roof was closed for the evening, Murray returned to finish the job as he closed out a challenging but successful comeback match to reach the second round.

The two-time champion had limped off the same court following a quarter-final defeat to Sam Querrey in 2017 - then as the top seed - and had not been back since with hip surgeries in 2018 and 2019, so this was a moment of jubilation and relief.

Wilander, speaking to Eurosport, hailed Murray's determination to come through what ended up being a very stern test, and argued that Murray now has to be considered when talking about the greatest players of all time.

"What a great match, from the first point to the last," Wilander said. "Murray realised that he had to change his game when he needed to, which is so hard to do.

"He showed in the fourth set why he might truly be the greatest player to ever play the game.

"We talk a lot about the numbers, the records," said Wilander. "Fourteen French Opens and twenty Grand Slams. That's all well and good.

"But we have to also consider character, and that's where I think Andy is just on another level.

"And we cannot forget that he also has two consecutive Olympic gold medals in singles. That puts him up in that rarefied air with athletes like Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and Ben Johnson.

"Andy Murray is special," concludes Wilander.
 
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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
It makes me proud to be compared to such an icon.
lol.webp
 
What a great match, from the first point to the last," Wilander said. "Murray realised that he had to change his game when he needed to, which is so hard to do.

"He showed in the fourth set why he might truly be the greatest player to ever play the game.

"We talk a lot about the the numbers, the records," said Wilander. "Fourteen French Opens and twenty Grand Slams. That's all well and good.

"But we have to also consider character, and that's where I think Andy is just on another level.

"And we cannot forget that he also has two consecutive Olympic gold medals in singles. That puts him up in that rarefied air with athletes like Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and Ben Johnson.

"Andy Murray is special," concludes Wilander.
Wilander with a quality take, who would have thought
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Britain's Andy Murray marked his long-awaited comeback at Wimbledon with a tough four-set win over Nikoloz Basilashvili and Mats Wilander paid tribute to him afterwards.

Murray appeared to be well on course to saunter through with a straight-sets victory to make his return a comfortable one when the match took a crazy turn for him.

The 34-year-old, who has seemingly endured no end of injury woes over the last few years, delighted the Centre Court crowd as he roared into a 6-4 6-3 5-0 lead and was seemingly cruising.

Yet somehow, Basilashvili staged a remarkable recovery when facing near-certain defeat, to break four times in succession and win seven games on the bounce. He even saved two match points.

But after the players left the court and the roof was closed for the evening, Murray returned to finish the job as he closed out a challenging but successful comeback match to reach the second round.

The two-time champion had limped off the same court following a quarter-final defeat to Sam Querrey in 2017 - then as the top seed - and had not been back since with hip surgeries in 2018 and 2019, so this was a moment of jubilation and relief.

Wilander, speaking to Eurosport, hailed Murray's determination to come through what ended up being a very stern test, and argued that Murray now has to be considered when talking about the greatest players of all time.

"What a great match, from the first point to the last," Wilander said. "Murray realised that he had to change his game when he needed to, which is so hard to do.

"He showed in the fourth set why he might truly be the greatest player to ever play the game.

"We talk a lot about the the numbers, the records," said Wilander. "Fourteen French Opens and twenty Grand Slams. That's all well and good.

"But we have to also consider character, and that's where I think Andy is just on another level.

"And we cannot forget that he also has two consecutive Olympic gold medals in singles. That puts him up in that rarefied air with athletes like Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and Ben Johnson.

"Andy Murray is special," concludes Wilander.
So you're telling me it's not Federer?
 

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
Maaannn . . . Mats must have some killer quad muscles and some mighty firm glutes from jumping on and off so many bandwagons!
 

SardinesForDinner

Professional
Britain's Andy Murray marked his long-awaited comeback at Wimbledon with a tough four-set win over Nikoloz Basilashvili and Mats Wilander paid tribute to him afterwards.

Murray appeared to be well on course to saunter through with a straight-sets victory to make his return a comfortable one when the match took a crazy turn for him.

The 34-year-old, who has seemingly endured no end of injury woes over the last few years, delighted the Centre Court crowd as he roared into a 6-4 6-3 5-0 lead and was seemingly cruising.

Yet somehow, Basilashvili staged a remarkable recovery when facing near-certain defeat, to break four times in succession and win seven games on the bounce. He even saved two match points.

But after the players left the court and the roof was closed for the evening, Murray returned to finish the job as he closed out a challenging but successful comeback match to reach the second round.

The two-time champion had limped off the same court following a quarter-final defeat to Sam Querrey in 2017 - then as the top seed - and had not been back since with hip surgeries in 2018 and 2019, so this was a moment of jubilation and relief.

Wilander, speaking to Eurosport, hailed Murray's determination to come through what ended up being a very stern test, and argued that Murray now has to be considered when talking about the greatest players of all time.

"What a great match, from the first point to the last," Wilander said. "Murray realised that he had to change his game when he needed to, which is so hard to do.

"He showed in the fourth set why he might truly be the greatest player to ever play the game.

"We talk a lot about the the numbers, the records," said Wilander. "Fourteen French Opens and twenty Grand Slams. That's all well and good.

"But we have to also consider character, and that's where I think Andy is just on another level.

"And we cannot forget that he also has two consecutive Olympic gold medals in singles. That puts him up in that rarefied air with athletes like Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and Ben Johnson.

"Andy Murray is special," concludes Wilander.

Lol Ben Johnson
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
"But we have to also consider character, and that's where I think Andy is just on another level."

LOL. Yes, lets make sure to nominate Murray to the Character Hall of Fame. I forget where that is, exactly . . . Scranton? No, it's in Sidcup, isn't it?

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

INDUCTION CATEGORIES AND ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA
The International Tennis Hall of Fame offers three induction categories: Player, Contributor, and Wheelchair.
PLAYER CATEGORY
  • Active as a competitor in the sport within the last 20 years prior to consideration.
  • Not a significant factor on the ATP Tour or the WTA within five calendar years prior to election. (Example: If a player retires anytime in 2020, then the player is eligible for induction in 2025.)
  • A distinguished record of competitive achievement at the highest international level
  • Consideration will be given to integrity, sportsmanship, and character.
 

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
. . . Consideration will be given to integrity, sportsmanship, and character.
There's a big difference between considering someone's character and somehow using character as a litmus test as to why someone should be considered one of the greatest tennis players of all time. Not to mention that every Hall of Fame has inductees that were not the nicest people on or off the field of play. Hall of Fames aren't mere popularity contests.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
There's a big difference between considering someone's character and somehow using character as a litmus test as to why someone should be considered one of the greatest tennis players of all time. Not to mention that every Hall of Fame has inductees that were not the nicest people on or off the field of play. Hall of Fames aren't mere popularity contests.

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Redwald

New User
Britain's Andy Murray marked his long-awaited comeback at Wimbledon with a tough four-set win over Nikoloz Basilashvili and Mats Wilander paid tribute to him afterwards.

Murray appeared to be well on course to saunter through with a straight-sets victory to make his return a comfortable one when the match took a crazy turn for him.

The 34-year-old, who has seemingly endured no end of injury woes over the last few years, delighted the Centre Court crowd as he roared into a 6-4 6-3 5-0 lead and was seemingly cruising.

Yet somehow, Basilashvili staged a remarkable recovery when facing near-certain defeat, to break four times in succession and win seven games on the bounce. He even saved two match points.

But after the players left the court and the roof was closed for the evening, Murray returned to finish the job as he closed out a challenging but successful comeback match to reach the second round.

The two-time champion had limped off the same court following a quarter-final defeat to Sam Querrey in 2017 - then as the top seed - and had not been back since with hip surgeries in 2018 and 2019, so this was a moment of jubilation and relief.

Wilander, speaking to Eurosport, hailed Murray's determination to come through what ended up being a very stern test, and argued that Murray now has to be considered when talking about the greatest players of all time.

"What a great match, from the first point to the last," Wilander said. "Murray realised that he had to change his game when he needed to, which is so hard to do.

"He showed in the fourth set why he might truly be the greatest player to ever play the game.

"We talk a lot about the the numbers, the records," said Wilander. "Fourteen French Opens and twenty Grand Slams. That's all well and good.

"But we have to also consider character, and that's where I think Andy is just on another level.

"And we cannot forget that he also has two consecutive Olympic gold medals in singles. That puts him up in that rarefied air with athletes like Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and Ben Johnson.

"Andy Murray is special," concludes Wilander.
Must have meant the great poet and contemporary of William Shakespeare, Ben Johnson
 
Some say 20>19, but I think we can all agree 20>3.

The Olympics are only held once every four years, during which time there are sixteen grand slams. Ergo 1 Olympic gold = 16 slams, so...

Djokovic = 19 + 0 = 19
Federer = 20 + 0 = 20
Nadal = 20 + 16 = 36
Murray = 3 + 16 + 16 = 35

However, this doesn't give the answer I'd like, so we then have to acknowledge that an Olympic gold counts double when it's successfully defended. So now...

Murray = 3 + 16 + 32 = 51

...and 51>20 ergo, Mury is indeed GOAT, and Wilander is a wise and perceptive man.
 

Stefan

New User
So if I understand Wilander's comments correctly, in summary Andy's character is on a higher level than any man who's ever played pro Tennis. Combined with his 2 Olympic gold medals elevates him to GOAT status.

We might be seeing the early stages of dementia in Wilander.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
So if I understand Wilander's comments correctly, in summary Andy's character is on a higher level than any man who's ever played pro Tennis. Combined with his 2 Olympic gold medals elevates him to GOAT status.

We might be seeing the early stages of dementia in Wilander.
I think he makes a very compelling case
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
The Olympics are only held once every four years, during which time there are sixteen grand slams. Ergo 1 Olympic gold = 16 slams, so...

Djokovic = 19 + 0 = 19
Federer = 20 + 0 = 20
Nadal = 20 + 16 = 36
Murray = 3 + 16 + 16 = 35

However, this doesn't give the answer I'd like, so we then have to acknowledge that an Olympic gold counts double when it's successfully defended. So now...

Murray = 3 + 16 + 32 = 51

...and 51>20 ergo, Mury is indeed GOAT, and Wilander is a wise and perceptive man.
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Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
Good that the entire tennis community is finally waking up to this truth.
Wilander spitting facts - Mury is life
 

egrorian

Rookie
Wilander really does spout some utter nonsense at times. Yes, very gutsy effort by Murray but this makes him the GOAT? That's just embarrassing from Mats.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
i think its hilarious u kids talking **** about mats. u wouldnt say this **** to him on air, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
 

egrorian

Rookie
i think its hilarious u kids talking **** about mats. u wouldnt say this **** to him on air, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
Really? He wears nice clothes and goes to fancy restaurants but that doesn't change the fact that his calling Murray the GOAT is laughable in its ludicrousness. He must be on the wind up, seriously.
 

Thetouch

Professional
Funny how most people here don't even question the source of the quote.

Btw Wilander's best year as an athlete was in 1988, the same year Ben Johnson destroyed Carl Lewis in the Olympics. Mats has not forgotten about it lol
 

FiddlerDog

Hall of Fame
Bringing the Wimbledon Cup home to England easily makes him the GOAT of all GOATs
Just hair raising electrifying for all of the UK


I swear Djokovic plays his best when he’s match point down
Novak comes from 40-luv to Ad Out
Worst type of player to face
The one that refuses to let you close it out

 
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i think its hilarious u kids talking **** about mats. u wouldnt say this **** to him on air, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
Wilander is jacked ? No he isn’t lmao, ive met him before on my practcie court where he said I had the best game he’s ever seen, probably the only time he’s ever been right
 
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