Will 2012 be Tsongas year?

#1
Yeah I know he is 26 and has been around for a while but I am really impressed with Tsongas progress this year. He has got the game to beat the best so what do you think? Does he have the potential to win a slam?
 
#2
Yeah I know he is 26 and has been around for a while but I am really impressed with Tsongas progress this year. He has got the game to beat the best so what do you think? Does he have the potential to win a slam?
Lets see if he can beat THE best, first ;)
 
#3
Yeah I know he is 26 and has been around for a while but I am really impressed with Tsongas progress this year. He has got the game to beat the best so what do you think? Does he have the potential to win a slam?
I think he does, but he needs to stay healthy and completely focused through a GS tournament.
 
#4
He'll definitely enter 2012 as confident as anyone. I think he should be the favorite tomorrow. I'm rooting for Federer but think Tsonga has the confidence right now to win it.
 
#5
I doubt it, he's too inconsistent it seems to really trouble the top guys on a regular basis, especially at slams. He may win a slam if he gets a lucky draw and one of the top guys pull out or get eliminated early but it appears highly unlikely. His backhand seems like a liability and his mental game is not the greatest.
Then again, no one thought Djokovic was going to have the year he had this year, so I could be proven wrong.
 
#6
Inconsistent yes but mainly a real confidence player and if he is on he is as good as anyone.

Djokovic's year was largely due to his confidence when the times got tough. He didn't wilt and retire, he stepped up and beat Nadal and Federer when his back was against the wall. I can see Tsonga being a similar player.

I doubt it, he's too inconsistent it seems to really trouble the top guys on a regular basis, especially at slams. He may win a slam if he gets a lucky draw and one of the top guys pull out or get eliminated early but it appears highly unlikely. His backhand seems like a liability and his mental game is not the greatest.
Then again, no one thought Djokovic was going to have the year he had this year, so I could be proven wrong.
 
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NadalAgassi

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#7
It would be great for the mens game if any of Murray, Tsonga, Berdych, Soderling, or Del Potro can win a slam next year. I think of that group Murray is most likely. Tsonga has the weapons and game but he maybe doesnt have the consistency or mental strength to win 7 matches.
 
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NadalAgassi

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#8
Inconsistent yes but mainly a real confidence player and if he is on he is as good as anyone.

Djokovic's year was largely due to his confidence when the times got tough. He didn't wilt and retire, he stepped up and beat Nadal and Federer when his back was against the wall. I can see Tsonga being a similar player.
Yes but Djokovic was a top 3 player for years who had already won a slam, reached other slam finals, won the WTF, and won a slew of Masters, before his major breakthrough this year.
 
#9
He's usually awesome at the Aussie Open and has beaten all of the top 4 in slams as well as given Djokovic arguably his toughest Wimbledon match this year - perhaps more importantly outside of clay he has become extremely consistent against those ranked below him, giving him more chances in the second week of slams. Definitely a contender in Australia and at Wimbledon.
 
#10
As long as he can stay healthy and consistent, it can definitely be a break through year for him. I don't know if he will win any slams (dependent on Djokovic, Nadal, and Federer) but I see him as a consistent top 10 guy and always a threat.
 
#11
Yes and breakthroughs are relative. For Tsonga to "breakthrough" would be less dramatic than what Djokovic did this year. Djokovic had already won a major and had a steady ranking so for him to "breakthough" more he needed to do something pretty special.

I think Tsonga to breakthrough would be to maybe win a major and get into top 5 type thing. Not necessarily a Federer/Rafa/Djokovic type season.

Yes but Djokovic was a top 3 player for years who had already won a slam, reached other slam finals, won the WTF, and won a slew of Masters, before his major breakthrough this year.
 
#12
He might win a masters but i think a slam is unlikely. To win a slam you must beat 3 of the top 4 and that is a tough ask for anyone. That is the reason why only Delpo won the US Open out of the Top 3 in the last couple of years because I can't imagine someone beating Federer in Quarters, Djokovic in Semis and Nadal in the Finals. Tsonga might win a slam if 2 of the top seeds are knocked out early but they have been pretty consistent this year. Who knows, with the top 4 in a bit of a mess at the moment aside from Federer who isn't getting any better, if the circumstances are right Tsonga may win a slam and that is a big IF. But I do expect good things from him, maybe rank no.
 
#14
He might win a masters but i think a slam is unlikely. To win a slam you must beat 3 of the top 4 and that is a tough ask for anyone. That is the reason why only Delpo won the US Open out of the Top 3 in the last couple of years because I can't imagine someone beating Federer in Quarters, Djokovic in Semis and Nadal in the Finals. Tsonga might win a slam if 2 of the top seeds are knocked out early but they have been pretty consistent this year. Who knows, with the top 4 in a bit of a mess at the moment aside from Federer who isn't getting any better, if the circumstances are right Tsonga may win a slam and that is a big IF. But I do expect good things from him, maybe rank no.
Del Potro was slated to meet Murray in the quarters of USO 2009. It's anybody's guess if Del Potro would've managed had they met.
 
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1970CRBase

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#16
I'd like to see Tsonga-Murray 2012 AO final, I have no idea who would be favourite to win in that one.
The guy up 5-1 H2H? :(

Tsonga is the inspiration type who needs big fire to get his creativity flowing. Great shotmaker but probably not a slam winner.
 
#19
Tsonga's top gear is enough to blow Murray off the court. So I wouldn't put much merit on their H2H. Many of their matches were close and Murray still hasn't proven he's a Slam force. At least Tsonga has won a set in a Slam final :lol:
 
#21
I'm not buying. He has an allergic reaction to big matches, low energy and doesn't expect to win. He's good for a sensational upset, but I don't expect him to follow it up with more of the same.
 
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zagor

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#22
The guy up 5-1 H2H? :(

Tsonga is the inspiration type who needs big fire to get his creativity flowing. Great shotmaker but probably not a slam winner.
I know Jo's record against Murray but the only time they played at AO Jo won(in the year in which Murray finished top 5, reached USO final and won Cincy).

Also Murray has a tendency to totally freeze up in a slam final while Jo may be riding on a wave of confidence and is definitely more eager to swing away in a big match.

In a slam final, Murray might get tight enough for Jo's offense to beat Andy's defense.

Of course it's also quite possible Murray will seize the opportunity of not facing Fed/Novak in a slam final for once and win his first slam or maybe the fact that he will be the favourite in the final and that Brits are gonna be expecting him to win more than ever(afteral it's not Fed/Novak/Nadal he's facing but rather another slamless player)will cause him to crumble.

Many interesting possibilties in that potential match, I still stand by what I said, I have no idea who would win which is why I would like to see it.
 
#25
Tsonga on for SEVEN MATCHES, 3 out of 5, in a row?

I'd like to see that but I don't think it's possible. Jo will likely be the kind of guy that reaches 3-4 GS finals(if not more) in his career but he needs to take every shot he gets if he wants to actually win one.

As many have said, he is simply too inconsistent.
 
#26
Tsonga doesn't need to be on for seven matches. He's at a point where he can beat guys like Gasquet, Dolgopolov or Verdasco without playing his absolute best. He needs to be on for 3 or 4 matches to win a Slam. I'd say it's unlikely considering that in top form, he still didn't beat an old Federer last night. You are likely to have to go through at least two of the big four to win a Slam.
 
#27
Tsonga doesn't need to be on for seven matches. He's at a point where he can beat guys like Gasquet, Dolgopolov or Verdasco without playing his absolute best. He needs to be on for 3 or 4 matches to win a Slam. I'd say it's unlikely considering that in top form, he still didn't beat an old Federer last night. You are likely to have to go through at least two of the big four to win a Slam.
Gasquet and Dolgo can take a Tsonga on a bad day IMO.

Yes, Gasquet is a mental midget but I think on clay in RG he could do it and Dolgo is VERY unpredictable in his funky gameplan.
 
#28
Tsonga on for SEVEN MATCHES, 3 out of 5, in a row?

I'd like to see that but I don't think it's possible. Jo will likely be the kind of guy that reaches 3-4 GS finals(if not more) in his career but he needs to take every shot he gets if he wants to actually win one.

As many have said, he is simply too inconsistent.
What? Tsonga ain't reaching another slam final, lol, let alone another 2 or 3 of them, lol. I'd be surprised if he made it to the 4th round of a GS again, same as Andy Murray, I think they're both finished now.

Nadal and Djokovic will likely take all slams up to 2017.

What I WOULD like to see is Tsonga consistently taking out Nadal at all slams (apart from FO). He has 2 attributes which are poison for Nadal's game, 1). ability to hit flat and hard - so he can tee off on Nadal's spin, and 2). unafraid to attack the net, and great hands at the net - so Nadal cannot out-grind him from the baseline.

He's sort of designed to beat Rafa the '2nd way', (the 1st way to beat Rafa is to out-Rafa him ala Djokovic v.2.0).
 
#29
What? Tsonga ain't reaching another slam final, lol, let alone another 2 or 3 of them, lol. I'd be surprised if he made it to the 4th round of a GS again, same as Andy Murray, I think they're both finished now.
This is pretty hilarious considering that Tsonga just made WTF finals and his results in slams this year have been: 3R(five setter with dolgo),3R(wawrinka beat him in a five setter),SF(beat by Djoko),QF(beat by Federer).

If Tsonga keep focused(hard, I know), he can make finals in WB and USO IMO.
 
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1970CRBase

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#30
Tsonga will be tearing every backhand single handed starting from the beginning of 2012. He will also change his racquet to 14 ounces mid size and serve over 2000 aces. By the end of the year, Tsonga shall be known as Hercules the demigod.
 
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