Will Daniil Medvedev remain at #1 for now?

[Aabye5]

Currently, Daniil Medvedev is sitting at the top of the rankings, but with little margin over Alexander Zverev, and defending a lot of points in Canada, he is at risk of losing the top spot before the US Open. Of course, this is his favorite time of year and he creates a lot of opportunities for himself on hard courts. However, the pressure is different this year due to his ranking, due to the arrival of a new wave of competitors, and due to his previous success.

Daniil Medvedev On Battle For No. 1: 'For Sure I'm Watching A Little Bit' | ATP Tour | Tennis

Daniil Medvedev discusses the battle for World No. 1, why Rafael Nadal is looming in that battle and more before returning to action this week in Los Cabos at the Abierto de Tenis Mifel.

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Will Daniil still be #1 in the world when the Tour reaches New York? (And will one of the promising young guns be able to grab a(nother) victory against a world #1?)

 

[McLovin]

Currently, Daniil Medvedev is sitting at the top of the rankings, but with little margin over Alexander Zverev, and defending a lot of points in Canada, he is at risk of losing the top spot before the US Open.

Except Zverev has the Cincy title he can't defend. So he's going to drop another 1000 points, regardless of whether Medvedev can defend his title.

Nadal probably has the best shot, but he won't play both Canada and Cincy, if he plays either, so...yes, Medvedev will be the #1 seed for the US.

 

[dking68]

I predict he will lose to Sinner at either Canada/Cincinnati and will lose a ton of points, if they meet in the quarters or so. He is for sure losing this time

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Currently, Daniil Medvedev is sitting at the top of the rankings, but with little margin over Alexander Zverev, and defending a lot of points in Canada, he is at risk of losing the top spot before the US Open. Of course, this is his favorite time of year and he creates a lot of opportunities for himself on hard courts. However, the pressure is different this year due to his ranking, due to the arrival of a new wave of competitors, and due to his previous success.

Daniil Medvedev On Battle For No. 1: 'For Sure I'm Watching A Little Bit' | ATP Tour | Tennis

Daniil Medvedev discusses the battle for World No. 1, why Rafael Nadal is looming in that battle and more before returning to action this week in Los Cabos at the Abierto de Tenis Mifel.

www.atptour.com

Will Daniil still be #1 in the world when the Tour reaches New York? (And will one of the promising young guns be able to grab a(nother) victory against a world #1?)

He'll be lucky to defend even half of the 3360 points he accumulated from the NA HC season last year.
Rafa ye#1 incoming.

 

[Deleted member 791948]

 

[BGod]

No. Nadal can gain but not enough.

 

[Rattie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554184676960616451

No pressure then lol.
Rafa defends no points from now on, Medvedev defends almost 5000

Never mind Daniil’s No 1 ranking. How far could he fall is more the question?

 

[UnderratedSlam]

Who cares?

I mean, is the seeding 1-4 and 2-3 for the semis?

No, usually it's 1-3 and 2-4.

1-7/8 in the QFs?

Usually it isn't. Usually the 1st seed gets the 5th seed in the QF.

So he's better off being the no 2 seed as that way he'll get the 4 seed in the semis and avoid the 5th seed in the QF...

Yes, the seeding system is laughable.

No 1 players often get to play seeds 3 and 5, no 2 seeds get 4 and 8. So which is better?

It's better to be no 2. You get an easier draw.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

He won’t hold on to it much longer. Nadal will likely end the year no1.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Nadal deserves it.

 

[BGod]

Let's see Nadal lose in QF both Canada & USO then call it a year.

 

[Backspin1183]

He won’t hold on to it much longer. Nadal will likely end the year no1.

If Med wins US Open then I'm okay with him ending the year #1. But with no Slam title, he doesn't deserve it.

 

[Aabye5]

He won’t hold on to it much longer. Nadal will likely end the year no1.

Nadal deserves it.

He'll be lucky to defend even half of the 3360 points he accumulated from the NA HC season last year.
Rafa ye#1 incoming.

Yes, but the question is not about YE #1.

 

[Tshooter]

Pound for pound Medwed has the ugliest strokes of any #1 ever.

 

[Sudacafan]

I hope he stays there for a couple of years.

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Medvedev was probably one point away from beating Nadal in straight sets at the AO Final (well, he was one point from being up a break in the 3rd Set), and he beat Djokovic in straight sets at the US Open last year.
So I wonder how people would perceive him now, if he'd won that point

 

[Sudacafan]

Nadal deserves it.

As a Federer fan, I know very well that there’s no deserving in tennis.

 

[Tshooter]

Medvedev was probably one point away from beating Nadal in straight sets at the AO Final (well, he was one point from being up a break in the 3rd Set), and he beat Djokovic in straight sets at the US Open last year.
So I wonder how people would perceive him now, if he'd won that point

That was then, this is now. Medwed said the kid stopped dreaming and prefers to play the Moscow Open.

 

[Sudacafan]

Pound for pound Medwed has the ugliest strokes of any #1 ever.

If you have to measure them in pounds, of course they must be ugly.

 

[Tshooter]

If you have to measure them in pounds, of course they must be ugly.

 

[Sudacafan]

The GOAT of overweight players.

 

[James P]

Should be. I expect two masters SFs at a minimum in Canada/Cinci.

 

[LawnTennisGod]

Who cares?

I mean, is the seeding 1-4 and 2-3 for the semis?

No, usually it's 1-3 and 2-4.

1-7/8 in the QFs?

Usually it isn't. Usually the 1st seed gets the 5th seed in the QF.

So he's better off being the no 2 seed as that way he'll get the 4 seed in the semis and avoid the 5th seed in the QF...

Yes, the seeding system is laughable.

No 1 players often get to play seeds 3 and 5, no 2 seeds get 4 and 8. So which is better?

It's better to be no 2. You get an easier draw.

It's random. So what you are saying is not quite true.

Plus last two US Opens, no.1 seed has been lined up with no.4 seed!

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554184676960616451

No pressure then lol.
Rafa defends no points from now on, Medvedev defends almost 5000

Never mind Daniil’s No 1 ranking. How far could he fall is more the question?

What everyone is ignoring is Alcaraz having a great chance of being No 1 post USO.

He is just about 600 points behind Rafa and is not defending too many points. He is expected to play both the masters and USO whereas Rafa will probably only play 1 masters.

Unless Rafa wins the USO, I see Alcaraz as the favorite to end the year as No 1.

 

[Tshooter]

What everyone is ignoring is Alcaraz having a great chance of being No 1 post USO.

He is just about 600 points behind Rafa and is not defending too many points. He is expected to play both the masters and USO whereas Rafa will probably only play 1 masters.

Unless Rafa wins the USO, I see Alcaraz as the favorite to end the year as No 1.

Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.

 

[LawnTennisGod]

Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.

Slam SF

 

[James P]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554184676960616451

No pressure then lol.
Rafa defends no points from now on, Medvedev defends almost 5000

Never mind Daniil’s No 1 ranking. How far could he fall is more the question?

No big surprise, Medly is 6th in the race. He needs to do something pretty spectacular the next three weeks to have a shot at YE#1.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.

Totally agree. But Alcaraz plays so many tournaments and Rafa misses so many that the possibility is pretty high.

Hope Rafa wins the USO so that the year end no 1 is secured. Having Alcaraz as no 1 would be a total joke.

 

[LawnTennisGod]

Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.

But the ATP rankings are soooo important ...it means the world to certain people!

When in fact, it is just '1 way' of rating players. And there can be 'several other ways' of ranking players, besides the ATP method.

 

[Tshooter]

But the ATP rankings are soooo important ...they mean the world to certain people!

When in fact, they are just '1 way' of rating players. There can be 'several other ways' of ranking players, besides the ATP method.

There could be other ways but I think most people would assume ATP #1 year end means the player that had the best year year. I’m not sure the ATP points system is capturing the player with the best year if there is any scenario in which a player can end up #1 with no major title and another player has two and a semi.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Slamless Zverev getting a week at #1 while injured would reflect the modern tour well.

 

[Tshooter]

‘

 

[Fedeonic]

Interestingly, since 2018, Medvedev has kept increasing his total points from Wimbledon to Aus Open. Can he do it one more time?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552425660504760321

And no, Zverev won't put himself there.

 

[Enceladus]

The ATP ranking is skewed due to political interference. Medvedev is not considered the best tennis player in the world, despite his No. 1 ranking. And Zverev as a possible world No.1 is a complete joke.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

If Med wins US Open then I'm okay with him ending the year #1. But with no Slam title, he doesn't deserve it.

I’d agree with this.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

He won’t hold on to it much longer. Nadal will likely end the year no1.

Medvedev is unlikely to be no 1 for long but Alcaraz has a real chance of pipping Rafa for the year end no 1. He is playing so many tournaments and raking up decent points everywhere.

Rafa needs to win the USO to secure it.

 

[dking68]

No big surprise, Medly is 6th in the race. He needs to do something pretty spectacular the next three weeks to have a shot at YE#1.

Cant wait to see Sinner take him out on a hard court. He aint doing s***

 

[Rattie]

The ATP ranking is skewed due to political interference. Medvedev is not considered the best tennis player in the world, despite his No. 1 ranking. And Zverev as a possible world No.1 is a complete joke.

Zverev is defending 4100 points up to the YE. Considering he is still out injured, that seems extremely unlikely.

 

[James P]

Cant wait to see Sinner take him out on a hard court. He aint doing s***

**BOO**

**HISS**

**BOO**

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Medvedev is unlikely to be no 1 for long but Alcaraz has a real chance of pipping Rafa for the year end no 1. He is playing so many tournaments and raking up decent points everywhere.

Rafa needs to win the USO to secure it.

Alcaraz also doesn’t deserve no1 if he doesn’t win a slam. Despite the number of events he’s played and wins he’s had.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Alcaraz also doesn’t deserve no1 if he doesn’t win a slam. Despite the number of events he’s played and wins he’s had.

True.. but that is how the ranking system is. I guess 2000 points is less for a slam win in this context. Maybe it should be 2500 or 3000.

 

[LawnTennisGod]

And some players just happen to play way more tournaments than others, thus ending up ahead on points, even though they have performed WORSE in terms of % of points won from the no. of points contested.


Rudd
Alcaraz
Tsitsipas

are a few prime examples. It's simply more quantity over quality, when it should be quality over quantity. (This is one of the several issues with the atp ranking system). So an alternative would be to use a percentage measure, like in Golf.... Who is racking up a higher percentage of points?

 

[mike danny]

Medvedev is the most underserving no.1 after Rios.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

True.. but that is how the ranking system is. I guess 2000 points is less for a slam win in this context. Maybe it should be 2500 or 3000.

Yeah that would be better. It would be more reward considering how difficult it is to win a slam

 

[Aabye5]

And some players just happen to play way more tournaments than others, thus ending up ahead on points, even though they have performed WORSE in terms of % of points won from the no. of points contested.


Rudd
Alcaraz
Tsitsipas

are a few prime examples. It's simply more quantity over quality, when it should be quality over quantity. (This is one of the several issues with the atp ranking system). So an alternative would be to use a percentage measure, like in Golf.... Who is racking up a higher percentage of points?

That would be interesting, but would it be better to change the current weights of the tournaments? In your scenario, if you enter 20 tournaments and you lose in the first round of all of them, but perform well at the Slams, is that better or worse than playing in a lot of 500s, winning some, but losing relatively early in the Slams?

 

[LawnTennisGod]

That would be interesting, but would it be better to change the current weights of the tournaments? In your scenario, if you enter 20 tournaments and you lose in the first round of all of them, but perform well at the Slams, is that better or worse than playing in a lot of 500s, winning some, but losing relatively early in the Slams?

Yes the weighting needs to change too. Slam is definitely worth at least 3 times a Masters 1000.

5 sets vs 3 sets
7 rounds vs 5 or 6 rounds
2 weeks vs 1 week
history
prestige
the pinnacle

It should be 3000 and finalist should get 1500.

 

[Tennfan123]

No jokes, but there's a world in which Medvedev could end up sitting at that No.1 spot for years and getting the record. Who else is there? He would only need a slam a year and some 1000 finals, maybe a win or two.

 

[mike danny]

No jokes, but there's a world in which Medvedev could end up sitting at that No.1 spot for years and getting the record. Who else is there? He would only need a slam a year and some 1000 finals, maybe a win or two.

Let's see him first hold it until the end of the year LOL.

 

[RelentlessAttack]

Cant wait to see Sinner take him out on a hard court. He aint doing s***

we'll see, med is a lot smarter than alcaraz and plays a very different game. just because sinner has been cleaning alcaraz's clock lately doesn't mean he'll do the same to medvedev. the rest of the season comes down to how rusty med's going to be, normally this is his time to shine

 

[Tennfan123]

Let's see him first hold it until the end of the year LOL.

I see him doing that. Can't see anyone who'll take it off him with his best stretch of the season coming up.