Will Daniil Medvedev remain at #1 for now?

Willl Medvedev be #1 at the US Open?


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Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Currently, Daniil Medvedev is sitting at the top of the rankings, but with little margin over Alexander Zverev, and defending a lot of points in Canada, he is at risk of losing the top spot before the US Open. Of course, this is his favorite time of year and he creates a lot of opportunities for himself on hard courts. However, the pressure is different this year due to his ranking, due to the arrival of a new wave of competitors, and due to his previous success.




Will Daniil still be #1 in the world when the Tour reaches New York? (And will one of the promising young guns be able to grab a(nother) victory against a world #1?)
 

McLovin

Legend
Currently, Daniil Medvedev is sitting at the top of the rankings, but with little margin over Alexander Zverev, and defending a lot of points in Canada, he is at risk of losing the top spot before the US Open.
Except Zverev has the Cincy title he can't defend. So he's going to drop another 1000 points, regardless of whether Medvedev can defend his title.

Nadal probably has the best shot, but he won't play both Canada and Cincy, if he plays either, so...yes, Medvedev will be the #1 seed for the US.
 

dking68

Legend
I predict he will lose to Sinner at either Canada/Cincinnati and will lose a ton of points, if they meet in the quarters or so. He is for sure losing this time
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
Currently, Daniil Medvedev is sitting at the top of the rankings, but with little margin over Alexander Zverev, and defending a lot of points in Canada, he is at risk of losing the top spot before the US Open. Of course, this is his favorite time of year and he creates a lot of opportunities for himself on hard courts. However, the pressure is different this year due to his ranking, due to the arrival of a new wave of competitors, and due to his previous success.




Will Daniil still be #1 in the world when the Tour reaches New York? (And will one of the promising young guns be able to grab a(nother) victory against a world #1?)
He'll be lucky to defend even half of the 3360 points he accumulated from the NA HC season last year.
Rafa ye#1 incoming. :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
 
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UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
Who cares?

I mean, is the seeding 1-4 and 2-3 for the semis?

No, usually it's 1-3 and 2-4.

1-7/8 in the QFs?

Usually it isn't. Usually the 1st seed gets the 5th seed in the QF.

So he's better off being the no 2 seed as that way he'll get the 4 seed in the semis and avoid the 5th seed in the QF...

Yes, the seeding system is laughable.

No 1 players often get to play seeds 3 and 5, no 2 seeds get 4 and 8. So which is better?

It's better to be no 2. You get an easier draw.
 
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Medvedev was probably one point away from beating Nadal in straight sets at the AO Final (well, he was one point from being up a break in the 3rd Set), and he beat Djokovic in straight sets at the US Open last year.
So I wonder how people would perceive him now, if he'd won that point :happydevil:
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Medvedev was probably one point away from beating Nadal in straight sets at the AO Final (well, he was one point from being up a break in the 3rd Set), and he beat Djokovic in straight sets at the US Open last year.
So I wonder how people would perceive him now, if he'd won that point :happydevil:

That was then, this is now. Medwed said the kid stopped dreaming and prefers to play the Moscow Open.

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Who cares?

I mean, is the seeding 1-4 and 2-3 for the semis?

No, usually it's 1-3 and 2-4.

1-7/8 in the QFs?

Usually it isn't. Usually the 1st seed gets the 5th seed in the QF.

So he's better off being the no 2 seed as that way he'll get the 4 seed in the semis and avoid the 5th seed in the QF...

Yes, the seeding system is laughable.

No 1 players often get to play seeds 3 and 5, no 2 seeds get 4 and 8. So which is better?

It's better to be no 2. You get an easier draw.
It's random. So what you are saying is not quite true.

Plus last two US Opens, no.1 seed has been lined up with no.4 seed!
 

Nadal - GOAT

Hall of Fame

No pressure then lol.
Rafa defends no points from now on, Medvedev defends almost 5000 :eek:

Never mind Daniil’s No 1 ranking. How far could he fall is more the question?
What everyone is ignoring is Alcaraz having a great chance of being No 1 post USO.

He is just about 600 points behind Rafa and is not defending too many points. He is expected to play both the masters and USO whereas Rafa will probably only play 1 masters.

Unless Rafa wins the USO, I see Alcaraz as the favorite to end the year as No 1.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
What everyone is ignoring is Alcaraz having a great chance of being No 1 post USO.

He is just about 600 points behind Rafa and is not defending too many points. He is expected to play both the masters and USO whereas Rafa will probably only play 1 masters.

Unless Rafa wins the USO, I see Alcaraz as the favorite to end the year as No 1.

Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.
 

Nadal - GOAT

Hall of Fame
Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.
Totally agree. But Alcaraz plays so many tournaments and Rafa misses so many that the possibility is pretty high.

Hope Rafa wins the USO so that the year end no 1 is secured. Having Alcaraz as no 1 would be a total joke.
 
Unless Alcaraz wins the USO it would be a joke. VMOS has 2 slams and a slam QF. Alcaraz has nadda.
But the ATP rankings are soooo important ...it means the world to certain people!

When in fact, it is just '1 way' of rating players. And there can be 'several other ways' of ranking players, besides the ATP method.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
But the ATP rankings are soooo important ...they mean the world to certain people!

When in fact, they are just '1 way' of rating players. There can be 'several other ways' of ranking players, besides the ATP method.

There could be other ways but I think most people would assume ATP #1 year end means the player that had the best year year. I’m not sure the ATP points system is capturing the player with the best year if there is any scenario in which a player can end up #1 with no major title and another player has two and a semi.
 
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Enceladus

Legend
The ATP ranking is skewed due to political interference. Medvedev is not considered the best tennis player in the world, despite his No. 1 ranking. And Zverev as a possible world No.1 is a complete joke.
 

Rattie

Legend
The ATP ranking is skewed due to political interference. Medvedev is not considered the best tennis player in the world, despite his No. 1 ranking. And Zverev as a possible world No.1 is a complete joke.
Zverev is defending 4100 points up to the YE. Considering he is still out injured, that seems extremely unlikely.
 
Medvedev is unlikely to be no 1 for long but Alcaraz has a real chance of pipping Rafa for the year end no 1. He is playing so many tournaments and raking up decent points everywhere.

Rafa needs to win the USO to secure it.
Alcaraz also doesn’t deserve no1 if he doesn’t win a slam. Despite the number of events he’s played and wins he’s had.
 
And some players just happen to play way more tournaments than others, thus ending up ahead on points, even though they have performed WORSE in terms of % of points won from the no. of points contested.


Rudd
Alcaraz
Tsitsipas

are a few prime examples. It's simply more quantity over quality, when it should be quality over quantity. (This is one of the several issues with the atp ranking system). So an alternative would be to use a percentage measure, like in Golf.... Who is racking up a higher percentage of points?
 
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Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
And some players just happen to play way more tournaments than others, thus ending up ahead on points, even though they have performed WORSE in terms of % of points won from the no. of points contested.


Rudd
Alcaraz
Tsitsipas

are a few prime examples. It's simply more quantity over quality, when it should be quality over quantity. (This is one of the several issues with the atp ranking system). So an alternative would be to use a percentage measure, like in Golf.... Who is racking up a higher percentage of points?

That would be interesting, but would it be better to change the current weights of the tournaments? In your scenario, if you enter 20 tournaments and you lose in the first round of all of them, but perform well at the Slams, is that better or worse than playing in a lot of 500s, winning some, but losing relatively early in the Slams?
 
That would be interesting, but would it be better to change the current weights of the tournaments? In your scenario, if you enter 20 tournaments and you lose in the first round of all of them, but perform well at the Slams, is that better or worse than playing in a lot of 500s, winning some, but losing relatively early in the Slams?
Yes the weighting needs to change too. Slam is definitely worth at least 3 times a Masters 1000.

5 sets vs 3 sets
7 rounds vs 5 or 6 rounds
2 weeks vs 1 week
history
prestige
the pinnacle

It should be 3000 and finalist should get 1500.
 
No jokes, but there's a world in which Medvedev could end up sitting at that No.1 spot for years and getting the record. Who else is there? He would only need a slam a year and some 1000 finals, maybe a win or two.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
No jokes, but there's a world in which Medvedev could end up sitting at that No.1 spot for years and getting the record. Who else is there? He would only need a slam a year and some 1000 finals, maybe a win or two.
Let's see him first hold it until the end of the year LOL.
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
Cant wait to see Sinner take him out on a hard court. He aint doing s***

we'll see, med is a lot smarter than alcaraz and plays a very different game. just because sinner has been cleaning alcaraz's clock lately doesn't mean he'll do the same to medvedev. the rest of the season comes down to how rusty med's going to be, normally this is his time to shine
 
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