Will Del Po be the next overhyped guy?

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trenzterra

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Have you guys noticed a trend. 2007 it was Djokovic, last year it was Murray and now it's Del Potro. You can see somehow all the breakthrough players of the year make it to the USO Finals against Federer.

Will Del Potro live up to the hype though? Djokovic and Murray sort of faded away less than a year after making their USO Final appearance. Is it a Federer curse or what? :S
 
I don't think so. Big serve, huge off both wings, improved movement. It's just his fitness, but it's not that bad anyway.

I think he's as good as Djokovic on clay, and is (obviously) improving on HC's.
 
Will Del Po be the next overhyped guy?
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Puhleeeeezzz! Youre a day late and a dollar short.

They've been writing that he's overrated and overhyped since December 2008! :shock:
 
No he isn't overhyped! He is a really good player and improving fast. He also has a good shot against Fed tomorrow...
 
trenzterra said:
Have you guys noticed a trend. 2007 it was Djokovic, last year it was Murray and now it's Del Potro. You can see somehow all the breakthrough players of the year make it to the USO Finals against Federer.

Will Del Potro live up to the hype though? Djokovic and Murray sort of faded away less than a year after making their USO Final appearance. Is it a Federer curse or what? :S
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Unlike Murray, Delpo actually had a really good result in a slam prior his big US Open run (2009 French SF, 2009 Aus QF, 2008 US Open QF).
 
Well last year or early this year it was Murray.. Now its Del Potro.. Sure why not. We need more players who everyone expects so much out of and then they faulter. The ATP has been full of them.. Whats a few more?
 
Bruguera said:
Well last year or early this year it was Murray.. Now its Del Potro.. Sure why not. We need more players who everyone expects so much out of and then they faulter. The ATP has been full of them.. Whats a few more?
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Murray was and still is overhyped...He is a good player but not as good as the media made him out to be...I wouldn't be surprised if the Brit media hails him as the fav for the AO 2010 if he wins a couple of Masters series towards the end of the year.
 
Bruguera said:
Well last year or early this year it was Murray.. Now its Del Potro.. Sure why not. We need more players who everyone expects so much out of and then they faulter. The ATP has been full of them.. Whats a few more?
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You are right. Staying in the top 4 or 5 constantly, reaching semis and finals of slams, sometimes scoring wins over Federer and/or Nadal, and winning Masters events is faltering. I miss those giants of the Golden era like Moya and Rios who reached a slam semifinal once an eternity, or Kafelnikov who went on 9 match losing streaks to Tomas Johansson and couldnt even win a Masters title, or Krajicek who 80% of the time couldnt even make it past the 3rd round of slam events.
 
No, I don't think Del Potro will ever get all the credit he deserves, He has come a long way in the past year, watching his interviews he seems very mature and
grounded for 20 years old.

I think he is a great kid, and being a Fed fan I wouldn't be all that upset if he beats Fed, He has played great all season and deserves all the hype he can get.
 
federerfanatic said:
You are right. Staying in the top 4 or 5 constantly, reaching semis and finals of slams, sometimes scoring wins over Federer and/or Nadal, and winning Masters events is faltering. I miss those giants of the Golden era like Moya and Rios who reached a slam semifinal once an eternity, or Kafelnikov who went on 9 match losing streaks to Tomas Johansson and couldnt even win a Masters title, or Krajicek who 80% of the time couldnt even make it past the 3rd round of slam events.
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Well lets see Krajieck won a slam.. Kafelnkov won 2 didnt he? I think Moya won a slam..

Del Potro and Murray have won none..


And btw players get much more hyped these days then they did eras passed due to more television and internet exposure
 
trenzterra said:
Have you guys noticed a trend. 2007 it was Djokovic, last year it was Murray and now it's Del Potro. You can see somehow all the breakthrough players of the year make it to the USO Finals against Federer.

Will Del Potro live up to the hype though? Djokovic and Murray sort of faded away less than a year after making their USO Final appearance. Is it a Federer curse or what? :S
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No, those guys problem was that they put the cart before the horse (and ticked Federer off) by tooting their own horns before getting anywhere.

Delpo, though, has been almost Nadal-like in his humility and take-it-one-step-at-a-time approach. Nadal and Federer said this guy would probably the next #1 after them...Federer was right about Rafa, let's see if they can make it two-for-two.
 
I don't see how Novak or Murray have faded at all since their USO Finals appearances.

Especially Novak, he has been pretty consistent and remained a top player on the tour.

Del Potro has the tools to be a threat to win the hard courts and possibly clay tourneys for years to come. Needs to work on getting better on grass though for sure.

But I'm a Del ****o so what do I know.
 
Actually, I dont see much hype around this guy. He has met reasonable expectations for his age and experience.
 
Also, to say that Djokovic is "overhyped" is unfair to Djokovic, especially since he turned around and won the 08 Australian Open and has had impressive slam results as well.

Also, I think that Del Potro will win a slam before Murray, and I won't be shocked if he does it tomorrow afternoon.

I still love Del Po ****s though...It's awesome.
 
I think Potro is the real deal, I have noticed he doesn't get very nervous against whoever he plays, Fed at RG he was tough. He beat Nadal a few times with no nerves. These are major wins.

I think he can get better. Maybe give an inform Nadal a hard time at RG next year. Soderling already laid out the game plan this year at RG. Potro can play that kind of game too and more.
 
One thing i like about Del Potro is he prefers to stay low profile, just letting his racquet to do all the talking.. I think thats a key to rise to the peak, because it keeps his mind stable, and of course with the media not giving him as much attention as they give to people like Murray and Djokovic, he won't be under pressure to perform.. just taking his time to develop.
 
Bruguera said:
Well lets see Krajieck won a slam.. Kafelnkov won 2 didnt he? I think Moya won a slam..

Del Potro and Murray have won none..


And btw players get much more hyped these days then they did eras passed due to more television and internet exposure
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It is the fault of your heroes from the 90s for letting these players win slams. You know Sampras's fault for volunteeringly SKIPPING Australia while he was ranked #1 allowing his pigeon Kafelnikov who is completely worthless vs any real top player in a slam on their good surfaces to win. The fault of Agassi for losing 4th round to Vince Spadea at that same Australian Open that Kafelnikov won. The fault of people like your new username for crashing out early and letting Kafelnikov cruise to a fluke French Open title over a bunch of fast court specialists, whereas Agassi missed this opportunity by crashing out to Chris Woodruff. The fault of Sampras for letting unseeded Krajicek beat him at Wimbledon, and Agassi for losing to some Flach guy early at that same Wimbledon.

Federer and Nadal simply havent allowed the likes of Kafelnikov and Krajicek to win 3 slams like your 90s heroes did. Good for them. If you think a mediocrity like Kafelnikov would fluke his way to 2 slams under Federer and Nadal's watch you had better think again.
 
zagor said:
Delpo might end up being better than both Novak and Murray.
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Murray is somewhat overhyped. No not a clown like GameSampras will no doubt say he is but not someone who should be called the favorite to win slams like he has been recently. He has proven nothing to warrant that. His game is too defensive when it comes to playing the biggest names in the biggest events perhaps and it might be hard for him to win alot of slams.

I think in the long run Del Potro will be the best of the 3. I am not sure between Djokovic and Murray, but Djokovic has accomplished more now (of course more than Del Potro too but I think that will change).
 
federerfanatic said:
Murray is somewhat overhyped. No not a clown like GameSampras will no doubt say he is but not someone who should be called the favorite to win slams like he has been recently. He has proven nothing to warrant that. His game is too defensive when it comes to playing the biggest names in the biggest events perhaps and it might be hard for him to win alot of slams.

I think in the long run Del Potro will be the best of the 3. I am not sure between Djokovic and Murray, but Djokovic has accomplished more now (of course more than Del Potro too but I think that will change).
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I agree that Murray didn't live up to expectations so far,however they were so high for a reason.The guy went on a tear last year in summer USO HC season,he won Cincy then reached USO final beating #1 player on the way and even though he went down rather easily to Fed in the final that year he went on to beat Fed 4 times in a row on HC after that(which is very impressive),it was logical to expect big things from him.It wasn't just the British hype.I agree he needs to play more agressive on the big points,needs to realize the right moment to attack and when to change the losing plan.

For Novak it's about improving his volleys,fitness and being more agressive from the baseline.
 
Murray has become the new Gabriela Sabatini and to lesser degree Conchita Martinez of the current mens field. Kill everyone in the warm ups, win alot of Masters or for women tier 1s, but cant get it done vs the big girls when it really matters. Sabatini in 91 and 92 killed Monica Seles in Rome but lost to her at the French Open when it really mattered. Same deal in 88 and 89 with Graf, beat her in warm ups to the French but not at the French when it really mattered (89 she went out 4th round to Fernandez so didnt even reach Graf). From mid 1990 to mid 1992 Sabatini beat Graf 7 of 8 times they played. Graf's only win? The Wimbledon final of course where Sabatini served for the title twice and still couldnt win. Conchita is not quite the same degree as Sabatini but she too underperformed in slams vs regular tour events. So yes Murray is overhyped now in that case. If you get hyped as a favorite this and this slam and produce 0 slam wins or only 1 slam win then you are an overhyped player.
 
federerfanatic said:
Murray is somewhat overhyped. No not a clown like GameSampras will no doubt say he is but not someone who should be called the favorite to win slams like he has been recently. He has proven nothing to warrant that. His game is too defensive when it comes to playing the biggest names in the biggest events perhaps and it might be hard for him to win alot of slams.

I think in the long run Del Potro will be the best of the 3. I am not sure between Djokovic and Murray, but Djokovic has accomplished more now (of course more than Del Potro too but I think that will change).
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I dont think Murray is a clown to be honest.. And I do actually think he does have some talent.. That said, I dont believe its all his fault, but the fault of the media especially British Media and others projecting him to achieve all this success BEFORE HE"S DONE IT.. Players dont make themselves overrated, posters like you (:)) and the media do
 
grafselesfan said:
Murray has become the new Gabriela Sabatini and to lesser degree Conchita Martinez of the current mens field. Kill everyone in the warm ups, win alot of Masters or for women tier 1s, but cant get it done vs the big girls when it really matters. Sabatini in 91 and 92 killed Monica Seles in Rome but lost to her at the French Open when it really mattered. Same deal in 88 and 89 with Graf, beat her in warm ups to the French but not at the French when it really mattered (89 she went out 4th round to Fernandez so didnt even reach Graf). From mid 1990 to mid 1992 Sabatini beat Graf 7 of 8 times they played. Graf's only win? The Wimbledon final of course where Sabatini served for the title twice and still couldnt win. Conchita is not quite the same degree as Sabatini but she too underperformed in slams vs regular tour events. So yes Murray is overhyped now in that case. If you get hyped as a favorite this and this slam and produce 0 slam wins or only 1 slam win then you are an overhyped player.
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How ya been grafselesfan? What did u think of the Fed-Djoker semis?
 
DelPo had nowhere near the level of hype that Murray and Djokovic had. And even if he has reached the final of the US Open, he still won't be hyped as much as the other two players. So, no, he's not "overhyped". DelPo stays under the radar and I think he likes it that way.
 
He is underrated on this board.

The guy is a beast. There's nothing about his game that screams "flash in the pan." He didn't even play out of his mind today to beat Nadal.
 
Bruguera said:
How ya been grafselesfan? What did u think of the Fed-Djoker semis?
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Hi GS, great to see you back. :) I have been pretty good. Federer vs Djokovic? Well I was sort of happy to see Djokovic atleast playing some better tennis in Cincinnati and some better tennis today than he has for awhile. However unfortunately his confidence is the biggest missing link I think. Today he played pretty well but his biggest problem was he didnt seem to believe he could really ever win the match. Even early when he looked pretty sharp and Federer was surprisingly nervous and shaky, he could have really went after Federer and the lead more there but seemed scared to. I still think he can come back. He needs a major confidence rewiring though, that is his biggest problem right now IMO, not his strokes or game. I think he has become a bit too nice. He was always a nice guy who was unfairly potrayed by some IMO, but he needs more of that cockiness and swagger back. As it is now guys like Murray, Del Potro, maybe soon Cilic are making their move on him if he doesnt get that back. I want to see him do better since he has the talent but he needs his mojo and that self belief going again.

Federer looked a bit more vurnerable today. That gives me some hope for an upset in the final. I admit it, I just dont want to see Federer win again. However my fear is Federer will raise his game again and play this great final and Del Potro will be too nervous to play the kind of tennis he did today. I hope I am wrong but that is my feeling now.

Since Rafa's injuries came down it really does show as we said how few guys (or any) there are outside of Rafa to challenge Roger. Yeah there are some good players, even some very good ones, but not ones who seem to have the guts and the extra gear to take a slam title away from him which is kind of frusterating. Of course even Rafa at 100% is far from a sure thing on these fast U.S Open courts anyway.
 
Talker said:
I think Potro is the real deal, I have noticed he doesn't get very nervous against whoever he plays, Fed at RG he was tough. He beat Nadal a few times with no nerves. These are major wins.

I think he can get better. Maybe give an inform Nadal a hard time at RG next year. Soderling already laid out the game plan this year at RG. Potro can play that kind of game too and more.
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I feel the same about the nervousness aspect. He seems to keep his composure quite well.

I saw him at the Rogers Cup; it was a tough match against Roddick -- Andy had match point(s) against DelPo but he managed to come out victorious.

The only big question mark is his fitness. That was a factor in the loss in the Rogers Cup final against Murray.

In the US Open final, I think he's gonna give Federer a run for his money. DelPo does not seem to be a player who is intimidated by Federer or overwhelmed by the occasion. Roger better bring his A-game.
 
Bruguera said:
How ya been grafselesfan? What did u think of the Fed-Djoker semis?
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Lmao, with a join date of earlier this month, you guys must go wayyyyy back.

/sarcasm

P.S - I don't care GS, I'm glad to have you back. We need more people defending the honor of the 90s to their death.
 
Enigma_87 said:
if Delpo improves his fitness he'd be the next #1 guy in my book. Incredible talent.
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I agree. He proved today he has what it takes to be at the top. If he beats Federer, tomorrow (or even takes him the distance to 5 sets)... that will be cemented.
 
well lets hope for a thriller then. heh haven't been seeing exciting matches at this Open yet.

i noticed that in all federer's six wins at the USO, he never met his finals opponent in a USO final again. could be an interesting statistic eh, and all except djokovic didnt win a grand slam since then.

04 hewitt 05 roddick 06 agassi 07 djokovic 08 murray
 
IMO, the only overhyped player is Murray. I mean, this guy was the "favourite" of the press to win 3 of the 4 slams this year and his best result was a semifinal with two 4th round exits! (playing on his "best" surface).

That's being really overhyped
 
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Love Game said:
Puhleeeeezzz! Youre a day late and a dollar short.

They've been writing that he's overrated and overhyped since December 2008! :shock:
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He was never over hyped, the problem was that he gave up too often. However, after that burning at the Australian Open he received, he got his act together. Thus why he's been playing so well.
 
IvanAndreevich said:
There is just one problem area in his game: defense. Both Novak and Andy are head and shoulders above him in that area. Del Potro is better offensively, though.
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In tennis it's all about elite offense in moments of truth. Del Potro's offense is so good he rarely, if ever, plays defense. He's one of the tour leaders in the return of service category I believe.
 
NamRanger said:
In tennis it's all about elite offense in moments of truth. Del Potro's offense is so good he rarely, if ever, plays defense. He's one of the tour leaders in the return of service category I believe.
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Actually, it's about both. Federer can do both, that's why he's so tough to beat.
 
IvanAndreevich said:
There is just one problem area in his game: defense. Both Novak and Andy are head and shoulders above him in that area. Del Potro is better offensively, though.
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He doesn't have the best defense, but he moves like a freaking gazelle considering his height. I mean, Sam Querrey's the same height, I think, and his movement is terrible.

The real difference, I think, between Del Potro and both Djokovic and Murray is what's in between the ears. Del Potro seems so much more mentally tough than the other two, which is why I think he'll be more successful than them. The players at the top are all very talented. They all have the ability to beat any player in the world. It's just a matter of keeping your head in the big moments, which Del Potro has done fantastically in the last few months.
 
Bud said:
I agree. He proved today he has what it takes to be at the top. If he beats Federer, tomorrow (or even takes him the distance to 5 sets)... that will be cemented.
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Yes I agree. I also like his attitude after the match. I really hope he gets to the top one day and if he doesn't get injured then there is no reason why he shouldn't
 
tudwell said:
He doesn't have the best defense, but he moves like a freaking gazelle considering his height. I mean, Sam Querrey's the same height, I think, and his movement is terrible.

The real difference, I think, between Del Potro and both Djokovic and Murray is what's in between the ears. Del Potro seems so much more mentally tough than the other two, which is why I think he'll be more successful than them. The players at the top are all very talented. They all have the ability to beat any player in the world. It's just a matter of keeping your head in the big moments, which Del Potro has done fantastically in the last few months.
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True, but there's also the fact that Del Potro smacks the living daylights out of every ball he gets half a look at. There's no poncing about with cute angles, changes of pace/height/spin... he just goes out there and relentlessly smacks the cover off the ball each time he can. It's a little bit like Safin back in the day, he doesn't just hit people off the court, he hits through them.

If you look at Del Potro's shots closely you'll notice that yes, he does hit pretty flat but given his height that isn't as high risk a strategy as it would be for a shorter player and it's also important to note that generally he doesn't hit very close to the side lines. He maintains very good depth but he rarely misses a ball wide.
 
I believe the correct word is "Juanitas", just like Federetes\Nadaletes\Murrons....

Juan Martin for the victory.. Vamos Juan!
 
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