Will Djokovic always be Alcaraz's bunny?

[Deleted member 791948]

I think so, because the gap will only widen from here, with the huge confidence Alcaraz has now received from winning the USO and all those clutch points he won in thrilling matches.
Winning a slam this way is lot more valuable than winning a slam in straight sets.

This is why I said I wanted Nadal to play Alcaraz as many times as possible this year, because I knew what was going to happen once Alcaraz won a slam, and Nadal/Djokovic needed to cash-in before the physical and now mental dynamics change in Alcaraz's favor.

Way worse for Djokovic, because Alcaraz likes hardcourt slams (and probably Wimbledon too) a lot more than he likes that relatively slow and high-bouncing Roland Garros!

 

[Kralingen]

Hm, a deliberate23stranger told me that Korda was a much bigger threat than Alcaraz, perhaps Novak should be worried about him instead

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Hm, a deliberate23stranger told me that Korda was a much bigger threat than Alcaraz, perhaps Novak should be worried about him instead

Korda may have more potential than Alcaraz, and maybe Korda would dominate the tour if he got over the hump and won a slam, but Alcaraz is the here and now

 

[Tshooter]

Always be. They played one time in a Bo3. Egg hasn’t cared about Bo3 in 10 years. And still it was bery bery close.

I would wait to see if and when Egg returns what form he’s in.

 

[Tshooter]

Korda may have more potential than Alcaraz, and maybe Korda would dominate the tour if he got over the hump and won a slam, but Alcaraz is the here and now

 

[UnforcedTerror]

Maybe but so will be Baldal.

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Nadal will always rule RG, while Alcaraz prefers the lower and faster surfaces which Djokovic relies on, rendering the Slam Race over!
Nadal waltzing toward 25 slams, while Djokovic stuck in quick sand

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Eventually probably since Djoker is heading north to 40. LOL. But I dont think its going to be any time soon in slams. Carlos struggled all US Open long. He wouldn't have beaten Nole there. Best of 3 probably. But the Big 2 doesn't care about non slams anymore. So that means little

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Eventually probably since Djoker is heading north to 40. LOL. But I dont think its going to be any time soon in slams. Carlos struggled all US Open long. He wouldn't have beaten Nole there

I guess folks haven't caught on yet, that when you win a slam it elevates your confidence level and your belief in physicality too (we didn't even know if Alcaraz had the stamina to win a slam, and now he's won the most physical US Open ever).
I always knew that Nadal and especially Djokovic had to cash-in before Alcaraz won a slam.
At least Nadal has RG, so he can still add to the tally

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[GabeT]

when predicting tennis outcomes is simply not your thing yet you insist


how long before we get a “new” user?

At 2022 Cincinnati vs. Coric:
Nadal's 1st Serve average was 114mph.
Nadal's 2nd Serve average was 98mph.
That's perfect speeds, he wins Slams with that
That's why he's winning the 2022 US Open.

Djokovic is getting worse and worse with every round, while Nadal gets better and better, and Djokovic can't push is way to victory vs. Nadal or Sinner for that matter

 

[matterer]

Sure Djokovic won 4 of the last 8 slams even though he only played in 6, but has he ever beaten Tiafoe in 5 sets? I can't even recall the last time he even played a 5 setter against Cilic. Advantage Alcaraz for sure. Djokovic may as well retire unless he starts losing more sets to rebuild his confidence.

 

[Sudacafan]

I never thought it that way.

 

[Tshooter]

Sure Djokovic won 4 of the last 8 slams even though he only played in 6, but has he ever beaten Tiafoe in 5 sets? I can't even recall the last time he even played a 5 setter against Cilic. Advantage Alcaraz for sure. Djokovic may as well retire unless he starts losing more sets to rebuild his confidence.

Egg takes a couple of months off to focus on pyramids and such and some posters make it like he can’t play tennis anymore.

 

[TheFifthSet]

This is fanfic. Djokovic will get his wins.

 

[btsjungkook]

Djokovic can't even solve Vesley much less Alcaraz.

 

[Tshooter]

Djokovic can't even solve Vesley much less Alcaraz.

Oxymoron.

 

[Mike Sams]

Eventually probably since Djoker is heading north to 40. LOL. But I dont think its going to be any time soon in slams. Carlos struggled all US Open long. He wouldn't have beaten Nole there. Best of 3 probably. But the Big 2 doesn't care about non slams anymore. So that means little

LOL Meanwhile they fight like hell to win the non-Slam titles. I guess you were in hibernation when Djokovic won Rome and Nadal won the Mexican Open and fought like hell to try to win Indian Wells.

 

[Deleted member 791948]

when predicting tennis outcomes is simply not your thing yet you insist


how long before we get a “new” user?

Have a look at my profile, it shows I registered on May 14th.
The slam before that date was the Australian Open Nadal won.
Why would I choose that date to delete my previous account and register a new account?
The only reason I ended my previous account and registered with thepaint19 is because I got a new email address in May, and wanted my TalkTennis username to match

https://imgur.com/nnxRIPP

If you look at the service speeds of Nadal when he won slams, they were the same as his 2022 Cincy and US Open speeds (rarely faster, like 2010).
The only difference is that Nadal has lowered his ball toss to accommodate his abdominal weakness, and that led to 9 double-faults vs. Tiafoe which was costly because Tiafoe only won 10 more points than Nadal.

 

[jm1980]

I think so, because the gap will only widen from here, with the huge confidence Alcaraz has now received from winning the USO and all those clutch points he won in thrilling matches.
Winning a slam this way is lot more valuable than winning a slam in straight sets.

This is why I said I wanted Nadal to play Alcaraz as many times as possible this year, because I knew what was going to happen once Alcaraz won a slam, and Nadal/Djokovic needed to cash-in before the physical and now mental dynamics change in Alcaraz's favor.

Way worse for Djokovic, because Alcaraz likes hardcourt slams (and probably Wimbledon too) a lot more than he likes that relatively slow and high-bouncing Roland Garros!

Alcaraz (born May 2003) is nearly 16 years younger than Djokovic (born May 1987)

Stefan Edberg is closer in age to Federer than Alcaraz to Djokovic

It's like boxing an old man. If you win, you beat an old man. If you lose, you lost to an old man.

 

[intrepidish]

Carlitos is going to give Novak some nightmares for sure.

 

[Lauren_Girl']

Alcaraz beat a rusty Djokovic in one of his least succesful Masters event, 7-6 in the 3rd. He has always been much better in Rome than Madrid. And Alcaraz's level and consistency in Madrid was higher than in NY.
Alcaraz almost lost 3 times in a row against Sinner, and Djokovic just beat Sinner to win his 21st slam.
Alcaraz just lost to Paul and Norrie and struggled like hell to beat Cilic, Tiafoe and Ruud.

I doubt Djokovic would ever be so close to lose 2 sets against Ruud on HC. Especially in a Slam final. And he beat a much better version of Cilic 6-0 6-2 6-1 in the USO. LOL.

Even if Djokovic loses 10-0 against Alcaraz, it won't mean anything when one guy is 36 and the other one is 19. Djokovic from 2011-2015 would have straight setted any version Alcaraz 2022.

 

[ChaelAZ]

I think Alcaraz is a huge hurdle for Djo and everyone else.

 

[blauerton]

Nadal will win the US Open in an epic kit.

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[Federev]

I guess folks haven't caught on yet, that when you win a slam it elevates your confidence level and your belief in physicality too

Medvedev tho

 

[Federev]

That pic!!!

i just can’t!!!

 

[blauerton]

 

[blauerton]

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[blauerton]

Nadal will win the US Open in an epic kit.

 

[MichaelNadal]

That's exactly the problem, the kit was terrible

 

[Hitman]

This is just disturbing.....and savage at the same time.

 

[intrepidish]

The reaction from Djokovic fans indicates that they fear this quite obviously.

 

[aldeayeah]

the madrid run was pretty crispy indeed

i prefer the match where he made two-time champion Zverev look like an utter amateur though

 

[Julius Caesar]

That old man dressed in orange got beaten badly.

 

[gadge]

I guess folks haven't caught on yet, that when you win a slam it elevates your confidence level and your belief in physicality too (we didn't even know if Alcaraz had the stamina to win a slam, and now he's won the most physical US Open ever).
I always knew that Nadal and especially Djokovic had to cash-in before Alcaraz won a slam.
At least Nadal has RG, so he can still add to the tally

Yeah we saw what happened to medvedev and thiem. If anything people take more time to get back to their peak after a slam.

 

[jm1980]

That old man dressed in orange got beaten badly.

The final score was 6-7(5), 7-5, 7-6(5)

 

[junior74]

Rafa looks great in all kits, because his skin is so beautiful and he has a perfect body

 

[jalapeno74]

I actually think that Djokovic will dominate next season - he will take extra motivation from people writing him off PLUS not being able to play AO and USO

If he is allowed to play next year (which I hope for all tennis fans) he will give it everything he has to overcome Nadal AND the new kid on the block (Alcaraz).
And he has the tools to defeat Alcaraz (mentally and physically)

 

[intrepidish]

Djokovic will dominate next season - he will take extra motivation

We heard the same thing at RG this year and he got beaten down by a rickety Nadal.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

Korda may have more potential than Alcaraz, and maybe Korda would dominate the tour if he got over the hump and won a slam, but Alcaraz is the here and now

Korda will never win a slam, I mean it is as obvious as Halep's blossoming love affair with her coach...

 

[Federev]

It’s almost like none of really knows the future.

Crazy to throw out something like that, I know…but really- it almost feels like that.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I think so, because the gap will only widen from here, with the huge confidence Alcaraz has now received from winning the USO and all those clutch points he won in thrilling matches.
Winning a slam this way is lot more valuable than winning a slam in straight sets.

This is why I said I wanted Nadal to play Alcaraz as many times as possible this year, because I knew what was going to happen once Alcaraz won a slam, and Nadal/Djokovic needed to cash-in before the physical and now mental dynamics change in Alcaraz's favor.

Way worse for Djokovic, because Alcaraz likes hardcourt slams (and probably Wimbledon too) a lot more than he likes that relatively slow and high-bouncing Roland Garros!

S+R combo matters

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

He really needs to work on Serve & Return combo.

 

[Djokovic2011]

We heard the same thing at RG this year and he got beaten down by a rickety Nadal.

In Nadal's backyard. Realistically the chances of Djokovic beating him at RG two years in a row were always slim.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Djokovic still has more majors in him on grass and hard courts. He will be extra motivated and over 5 sets he’s still the big favourite for Australia and Wimbledon. Both courts suit him great and I feel the rest will actually help prolong his career.

I look forward to seeing him back in Israel at end of month. Been ages since I seen him on hard courts and he will look to build his game and fitness for end of year to take in as good momentum for 2023 and especially Australian open.

 

[Bambooman]

I guess folks haven't caught on yet, that when you win a slam it elevates your confidence level and your belief in physicality too

Thiem? Medvedev? Andreescu? Raducanu?

 

[Federev]

Lol…
Yer baaaaaad!

 

[D.Nalby12]

Maybe but so will be Baldal.

Djokovic has more chance to overcome Alcaraz problem.