Will Djokovic ever beat Nadal again? Was Jan 2012 the end of his success vs Nadal? Nadal has won their last 3 meetings and Djokovic has won a total of one set.
Are there any reasonable Nadal fans? It's one extreme to the other isn't it?? Of course Novak will beat Nadal again, even if the next few clay matches go Nadal's way do you think Novak will just sit there twiddling his fingers not making different plans, thinking up different strategies to beat him?? The way Nadal did after his consecutive losses??
Are there any reasonable Nadal fans? It's one extreme to the other isn't it?? Of course Novak will beat Nadal again, even if the next few clay matches go Nadal's way do you think Novak will just sit there twiddling his fingers not making different plans, thinking up different strategies to beat him?? The way Nadal did after his consecutive losses??
Are there any reasonable Nadal fans? It's one extreme to the other isn't it?? Of course Novak will beat Nadal again, even if the next few clay matches go Nadal's way do you think Novak will just sit there twiddling his fingers not making different plans, thinking up different strategies to beat him?? The way Nadal did after his consecutive losses??
Why blame Nadal fans?
There are Nadal fans, there are Federer fans, there are Djokovic fans, there are fans for other players, then there is Bullzilla and his armada of accounts!
NASA is conducting research to find out whose fan Bullzilla actually is :wink:
On clay, sure, although Djokovic can win. On grass, Nadal needs to think about Rosol and co before thinking about Djokovic. As for hard courts, Djokovic is clearly superior so that one isn't even up for debate.
The way Djokovic beat Nadal in the past was by going flat down the line, but now Nadal isn't leaving the line open as much these days, because Nadal is playing less inside-out forehands and using his backhand a lot more effectively. Good luck finding another strategy to beat Nadal with. These guys have an extensive rivalry, and there are no secrets left I suspect.
Newflash: The OP is NOT a Nadal fan. He is a Fedt*rd in disguise.
It took Djokovic 6 hours in the 2012 AO final. And that was when Nadal was leaving the down-the-line wide open. Now Nadal isn't playing as many inside-out forehands and is attacking with his backhand. Good luck....
He is NOT a Fed fan or Djokovic fan. I am 100% sure about that. He could be a Tomic fan
Will Djokovic ever beat Nadal again? Was Jan 2012 the end of his success vs Nadal? Nadal has won their last 3 meetings and Djokovic has won a total of one set (and it was when the court was drenched).
I like the way you conveniently ignore the fact that BP's 3 game winning streak was on his best-and Noel's worst-surface, whereas Noel's 7 game winning streak was on the 3 major surfaces. Spin much?
In recent times, Djokovic has more success on clay vs Nadal than on hardcourt. In 2011, Djokovic beat Nadal in straight sets twice. Which surface were the 2 matches on? Clay. That's the dynamic of this matchup that you have conveniently ignored. And if we go back to 2010, Nadal beat Djokovic at the US Open and World Tour Finals.
from 2011, djokovic is 2-3 vs nadal on clay and 4-0 on HC ..
you fail NSK, again ....... try, try, try again and keep failing .....![]()
But during Djokovic's 7 match winning streak there were only 2 straight sets victories, both on clay. And after the 7 match winning streak Nadal turned it around on the surface Djokovic did the most damage to Nadal on - clay. And that means grass and hardcourt is a formality for Nadal too. This is the dynamic of the matchup.
no, it just means the relative difference in forms was the greatest in their matches on clay in 2011 and not on HC (maybe apart from USO match ) and grass ....in any case nadal had to battle like crazy to win the 3rd set at the USO ... otherwise, that'd have been a far worse thrashing than the losses at rome and madrid ....
djokovic will definitely beat nadal on HC many more times and nadal has to get past the 1st week at wimbledon first to meet djokovic :twisted:
11-5 h2h on HC
2-12 h2h on clay
shows the dynamic of their matchup overall ....
But during Djokovic's 7 match winning streak there were only 2 straight sets victories, both on clay. And after the 7 match winning streak Nadal turned it around on the surface Djokovic did the most damage to Nadal on - clay. And that means grass and hardcourt is a formality for Nadal too. This is the dynamic of the matchup.
djokovic will definitely beat nadal on HC many more times and nadal has to get past the 1st week at wimbledon first to meet djokovic :twisted:
To the OP, why did you wait 2 years to start posting?
Is that because your other accounts were banned :lol:
Edit: LOL at abmk, you seriously THAT bored that you need to argue with 6-1 6-3 6-0?
Get some sunshine brother, or better yet, get yourself a racquet, hire a court and play for the first time in your life!
I think prior to nadals injury rest period, Djoko was definitely in Nadal's head as much as Nadal is in Fed's.
Now I think Nadal's got a chance unless Djokovic dominates their next match.
Nadal will have won 8 in a row over Djokovic by early July:
Monte Carlo: 4
Rome: 5
Madrid: 6
Roland Garros: 7
Wimbledon: 8
But Nadal won 3 matches over Djokovic in 2012 before Nadal's 7 month absence. And the matches weren't even close. Monte Carlo and Rome were straight sets. And Roland Garros was 4 sets and Nadal had won the first 2 sets and was up a break in the 3rd set before the rain.
Why stop there?
Not true, actually. The first rain delay was in the second set.
In recent times, Djokovic has more success on clay vs Nadal than on hardcourt. In 2011, Djokovic beat Nadal in straight sets twice. Which surface were the 2 matches on? Clay. That's the dynamic of this matchup that you have conveniently ignored. And if we go back to 2010, Nadal beat Djokovic at the US Open and World Tour Finals.
Edit: LOL at abmk, you seriously THAT bored that you need to argue with 6-1 6-3 6-0?
Get some sunshine brother, or better yet, get yourself a racquet, hire a court and play for the first time in your life!
Pffft lol, as if he's hardly ever done it before.
He only failed to get past the first week in 03, 05 and 12. Fed has failed to get past the first round at Wimbledon 3 times and was a bee's dick away from making it 4 in 2010 :twisted:
LOL, look who's talking. my responses were not that much more than your responses to him ..........
that sentence was meant to be plain trolling ...but then you aren't sharp enough to get that , even with the smiley, are you ?
though yours was to an extent, the last part , its hilarious how you mention fed being close to getting ousted in wim 10 vs falla but not nadal vs kendrick in wim 06 .... so typical of your posts .... its what those nadal-tinted glasses do I guess
Will Djokovic ever beat Nadal again? Was Jan 2012 the end of his success vs Nadal? Nadal has won their last 3 meetings and Djokovic has won a total of one set (and it was when the court was drenched).
LOL you were getting into a troll session with him while I only asked why he hasn't posted in 2 years and why he would stop after making a ridiculous claim.
Obviously, you don't no the meaning of the word much...
So it's hilarious is it? I find it even more hilarious that the WIM GOAT has lost in the first round 3 times and was a bee's dick away from it being 4. Nadal is not the WIM GOAT, he's far from it with only 2 titles, so it should be expected that Rafa struggles more at that particular major than his best - RG.
Here's an interesting stat:
Federer has lost in the first round at both natural surface majors 3 times...
I posted only 2 posts in response to him in this thread , neither of them were long, so yes, I very well know the meaning of the word much and used it correctly there ...
again, attempting to side-track my point again ? heh !
all of federer's first round losses at majors were before he hit his prime .....
here's another interesting stat :
since he won his first major , wimbledon in 2003, federer has lost before the semis only 6 times in 39 majors ( incl wimbledon 2003 )
since nadal won his first major, RG 2005, he has lost 9 times in 28 majors before the semis ( incl RG 2005 )
No, you clearly don't. 2 quick questions is not the same as 2 argumentative troll posts.
Side track what point?
I already told you Nadal isn't WIM goat and Fed is, so Nadal losing in the first week is nowhere near as embarrassing as your boy losing in the first round at his favorite major 3 times (nearly 4).
Also, Federer was the #8 seed in 2002. I wouldn't say that's before his prime, before his peak yes, but not before his prime, he was a top 10 player and lost to an unseeded teenage qualifier.
Also, Nadal had a pre-prime too remember? Still didn't get knocked out in the first round of a major and was beating peak Fed continuously![]()
Here's another interesting stat:
Since winning Wimbledon 2007, Federer had NEVER beat Nadal in a major since :lol:
Anyone got a feeling of Deja vu?
Anyone got a feeling of Deja vu?