Will Djokovic ever win another Slam?

Will Djokovic ever win another Slam?

  • No, he is done at the highest level

    Votes: 36 24.3%

  • No, but he will make more Slam finals and come close

    Votes: 46 31.1%

  • Yes, but only one more

    Votes: 45 30.4%

  • Yes, he will win multiple, this is just a blip

    Votes: 21 14.2%
  • Total voters
    148
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Kralingen

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Two incredibly one-sided beatdowns vs. younger stars at the AO and Wimbledon this year.

Watching the matches back, he wasn't even close to beating Sinner or Alcaraz in either match. Barely even managed a competitive level. And he's just had knee surgery. 37 years old.

Is he Finnish? Will he ever win another Grand Slam, or will he end on 24?
 
Djokovic may still be difficult to beat in the next two Major tournaments but father time has already warned him that he will no longer be able to win a GS tournament.
 
If he can avoid Alcaraz and Sinner, maybe. Otherwise no. The 2023 WTF was his swan song. He embarrassed Alcaraz and Sinner b2b. Little did we know it would be the last time. What a way to go out
 
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I think he will decline further from here, and to the point even a weak draw, even in the context of todays already terrible field, would not be enough. As it is he had an outrageously, historically easy (aka rigged) draw at Wimbledon 2024, and still came nowhere close to the title, and nearly went out a bunch of times. Had Taylor Fritz won his QF he would have had an outright walkover in both the quarters and semis, jumping straight from a round of 16 match to the final.
 
USO 2024, AO 2025 and Wimbledon 2025 will be his last three chances. I think he can get one.

He's been terrible this year but can still return to a good level for a few months. Federer was poor in 2018 and then he almost won one in 2019. I think Djokovic will be in a similar position that he can take one but remains to be seen if he will actually do it.
 
grandefrankie said:
I think he will decline further from here, and to the point even a weak draw, even in the context of todays already terrible field, would not be enough. As it is he had an outrageously, historically easy (aka rigged) draw at Wimbledon 2024, and still came nowhere close to the title, and nearly went out a bunch of times. Had Taylor Fritz won his QF he would have had an outright walkover in both the quarters and semis, jumping straight from a round of 16 match to the final.
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Nowhere close? He made the Final
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
Due to a cakewalk draw. His draws will only get tougher especially when he drops outside the top 2 soon.
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When will he drop out of the Top 2?

He is still miles better than the #4 player and below. Outside of Alcaraz and Sinner, no one can touch him.

Musetti might have won the tournament if he'd had a different draw, and Djoko got him in straights. He's still way ahead of the entire field outside those two guys
 
Morale is low for our Nolefams, most of them like Nachiket, Sonny T, RF18 and the gang are demoralized, they've been subjected to the harsh reality of life that players do decline a lot in 30s, everything that they've believed on Federer being at his peak in 2015 or Novak being at his peak in recent years has been shattered.

Under these extraordinary circumstances I must defend Novak by holding the line, so I'll say that he will win 1 more, all hope is not lost for him, his knee will get better and his movement will get better to do what it is needed to go toe to toe with Alcaraz, with better movement his other strokes will also get better, like @NeutralFan said Novak's speed is still intact and so there is hope. He might never beat Alcaraz at slams again but his level next year could be what it was in 2023 i'e last year and it could be still be enough to sneak past SInner/Mugvedev/Zverev type guys in case they can take out Alcaraz before the final. Novak however will have to maintain his top 3-4 ranking and not drop below this, so he will have to play small tournaments more, I think he will even have to lock horns with Alcaraz in smaller tournaments just to see if he can inflict some defeats there to cast some doubts on his mind. This is the way forward for Djokovic to win 1 more slam.

As @Drob mentioned in another thread, Novak has 12 months left, the race to 2025 Wimbledon is on, he has to win 1 before that, his window closes at 2025 wimbledon/possible 2025 US open @Kralingen
 
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BauerAlmeida said:
He's been terrible this year but can still return to a good level for a few months. Federer was poor in 2018 and then he almost won one in 2019. I think Djokovic will be in a similar position that he can take one but remains to be seen if he will actually do it.
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By Federer standards, but he did win the AO and had a 17 win match streak at the beginning of the season. Djoko has won only 23 matches, no tournaments, and was beaten badly in two slams. I do think, though, that if he doesn’t have to play Sinner or Carlitos, he could still win one.

Djoko’s diminished movement and physicality has hurt him more than it hurt Federer though it hurt both. Fedr ameliorated for that lost movement by standing even closer to the baseline and half volleyeing everything and his serve, though diminished in pace (Djoko served bigger than Fed in 2019), was still better than Djoko’s and just about everyone else’s in that it was unreadable and he could hit lines after lines. Federer’s once in a lifetime racket talent allowed him to outplay two younger GOATs even at age 38.
 
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I'd never count him out, but the hill is very steep atm. Yes, he made a wimbledon final, but consider how and against who (losing a set to the no 277 even, walkover etc)
He has no top 10 wins or titles this year, but he has recorded some hard losses (Nardi, Tabilo, Macháč...then Ruud and de MInaur) - not to mention that both Sinner and Alcaraz just completely schooled him in BO5 matches.

Let's see what the rest of the year brings. The difference we saw yesterday (and at the AO) is large. Let's see him book a few wins over top 10 players first. However, if the Olympics (6 matches in 7 days) and the USO proof to be disappointing for him, it may become too much of a struggle to get back on the horse. Meanwhile, the rest of the field isn't sitting still either.
 
Decline can be rapid at his age. I realize he had to overcome the knee injury but his draw was pretty favorable and there are signs that parts of his game are slipping and he lost yesterday because he was outclassed by a younger player that is faster, stronger, and just better. I do think he may have a two week run in him but it's going it's going to be heavily dependant on the draw as things will have to fall into place for him like they did at Wimbledon.
 
Looks very similar to serena williams situation. After coming back fro motherhood in 2018, She looked good enough to win 1 or 2 slams. But there was always someone to stop her. It happened till she crossed 40 and retired. Couldnt touch 24.

Djokovic looks to be going the same way. Alcaraz and Sinner are prime obstacles.
 
Obviously he can. He just made a slam final pretty easily with a diminished knee that isn't fully back to 100%. This question is something that needs to be asked when Novak starts losing earlier in slams consistently and can't rival the elite. Until then, he will probably continue to give himself opportunities to win more. Count Djokovic out at your own peril.
 
I could see him winning zero more but I could also see him winning a couple more. I'm not entirely convinced 2024 is a permanent drop in form – could just be an off year. He was so sharp last year at so many events. Hard to imagine he won't ever play tennis close to that level again, even if he hasn't done so over the last six months. But it's only going to get harder as Sinner and Alcaraz grow in confidence.

I'll sit in the middle and say he wins one more. Probably one of the hard court slams this year or next.
 
Razer said:
Morale is low for our Nolefams, most of them like Nachiket, Sonny T, RF18 and the gang are demoralized, they've been subjected to the harsh reality of life that players do decline a lot in 30s, everything that they've believed on Federer being at his peak in 2015 or Novak being at his peak in recent years has been shattered.
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RF-18 especially has been vocal about the age “excuse” and has made post after post about it but is nowhere to be found now and has his posts hidden.
 
The question should be Can he not Will he.

He certainly can, he will likely need Alcaraz and Sinner out of his way, maybe even Medvedev and Zverev on HC.

Best not to rule him out while he is still making slam finals. Only two players have out performed him this year.

Chances are not that high to be honest, but he has a chance to get that one last title.
 
I would say no for the highest levels, but we just saw how an absolutely embarrassing cake draw with freebie walkover gave him a spot in a final. Only to have his actual level of play exposed by Alcz in straight sets and without a glimmer of hope. Bof5 with good higher ranked players and he is out early.

Or, if he goes on cycle for one more 'magical round' of suddenly winning everything.
 
roysid said:
Looks very similar to serena williams situation. After coming back fro motherhood in 2018, She looked good enough to win 1 or 2 slams. But there was always someone to stop her. It happened till she crossed 40 and retired. Couldnt touch 24.

Djokovic looks to be going the same way. Alcaraz and Sinner are prime obstacles.
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Serena wasn't invulnerable to all but two players though

Djoko can still murder anyone besides Sinner and Alcaraz
 
ChaelAZ said:
Or, if he goes on cycle for one more 'magical round' of suddenly winning everything.
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I chose he gets close, but no more. Basing it on his precipitous drop in form this year.

However if his drop off the cliff is due to what Chael is inferring, then yes of course he can come back and win more slams. If it's due to just getting old, forget it.
 
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Put Alcaraz and Sinner in the same half and he sure does have a shot at another slam. The rest of the field is soooo pathetic that his possibility is still real.
 
Rosstour said:
Serena wasn't invulnerable to all but two players though

Djoko can still murder anyone besides Sinner and Alcaraz
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Sinner will also be murdered when Novak reaches his 2023 level, Jannik is not that tough in the 5th set or as creative as Alcaraz.

Only Alcaraz is beyond Novak's grasp now.
 
Curious to see how his knee keeps responding to upping the loads and regaining full sharpness. If it can survive then I don't think he's done yet, but it's still unknown despite the Wimbledon showing.
 
I can see him getting one more. He'd need a bit of luck but I can see him doing it.

His problem right now is there are two players who have beaten him soundly at the later stages of grand slam tournaments, and sooner rather than later Alcaraz is going to overtake him and be fighting for 1st place with Sinner, meaning Novak will find himself in a position where he'd very likely have to beat one or both of them back to back to win.

It isn't impossible, it's how Federer was able to win Wimbledon in 2012 where Rafa lost early and he beat Novak in the semis. Federer of course was a lot younger and, aside from his back issues, was otherwise healthy.

What's really going to trouble Novak is that his aura of invincibility is gone, and unlike Federer in 2009 or Nadal in 2015, Novak doesn't have much time left to recover it.
 
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