Will djokovic fans make today win like something very very big?

Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
That is actually a really good point. I have Alcaraz favourite for singles despite this. You are correct though a deep run in the doubles for Alcaraz could distract him a bit and help Novak.

I do think Zverev is going to be a big problem too. Novak is likely is going to have to beat both if he makes semi final which will be tough. He’s a long way off that though and it’s round of 16 to focus on.

I expect Nadal and Alcaraz to go far in doubles. They looked good especially when Alcaraz settled more.
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Alcaraz is way too fit to get troubled by some doubles action. At his age, stamina shouldn’t be a concern. He is firm fav for singles gold.


Though I back Djokovic, ofcourse.
 
Nadal was a pale shadow of himself. This match could ignite the fire in him again or force him to call it quits for good. It was like watching an active player vs a retired player.

I'm thinking the latter. At 38, with little match practice and injuries, he stood no chance. I just hope he doesn't do it the Murray way.
 
mahatma said:
Alcaraz is way too fit to get troubled by some doubles action. At his age, stamina shouldn’t be a concern. He is firm fav for singles gold.


Though I back Djokovic, ofcourse.
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It not really fitness but a mental focus. It could distract him mentally a bit. It more mental fatigue not physical. At his age he can run for days! Lol
 
This sort of reminded me of when Hubi beat Roger at Wimbledon. Just like that wasn't the same Roger that won 8 Wimbledon's, this wasn't the same Nadal that won 14 French Opens. I think Novak realized that and Nadal certainly realizes it.
 
Alcaraz takeover said:
Nadal looks worn and old. He had no chance with a back to back at this stage of his career. Idiots just ****ed up probably their last match with horrendous scheduling
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It wouldn’t matter what the schedule looked like — Nadal can barely win matches now. He wasn’t going to beat Djokovic. Bookies had Nadal not winning a set at a generous -220.
 
Darrell said:
This sort of reminded me of when Hubi beat Roger at Wimbledon. Just like that wasn't the same Roger that won 8 Wimbledon's, this wasn't the same Nadal that won 14 French Opens. I think Novak realized that and Nadal certainly realizes it.
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Novak wont take any great satisfaction in that today. I remember a comment Steve Davis (a snooker player ATG) said when he beat Stephen Hendry at a huge event when both were long past their glorious best (the two were the GOATS before Ronnie O'sullivan came along). Davis said he though it would give him great satisfactio nto win, but ultimately he didnt feel any satisfaction as the Hendry he beat was a shadow of the Hendry of old, and that was when Davis was a shadow of his best.
For Djokovic now, beating Alcaraz and Sinner is where it is at. Beating Murray Nadal Wawrinka Nishikori is at this point in truth utterly meaningless, and i use them as examples as he had big losses against them all when all were in their primes.
 
It is not Nole's fault that Nadal did not take proper care of his body and carries unnecessary heavy muscles to force his legs to break.

Novak still runs like a 20 year old while the Rafa is on his retirement tour. They are basically the same age. Both are the greatest players, but only one ended up in the throne of tennis.

The rest is history, if you want to be king do not take things for granted, be the best at everything, that is the lesson the Goat of tennis teached the Fedal base.
 
Lleytonstation said:
Just an Olympic exhibition right?
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yes and no

no because before the match, every one knows djoker would win it

yes because the goat had to be so serious to defeat this version of rafa. even he got broken twice and finally managed to show he is the ultimate GOAT
 
Nadal is irrelevant. Novak already leads the H2H and has beaten him twice on PC. This match was just shutting the door on their rivalry.
 
JFK_32 said:
I bet yes, but he just beat semiretired player :)
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Well, some Nadal fans make matches like RG 2006 and Wimbledon 2007 sound like very, very big wins, so.... Keep mentionning the 11-7 Slam H2H as if it's a deal breaker.

If OG 2024 doesn't count, then all their first clay encounters in 2006-2009 shouldn't count either. Fair is fair.

What is so traumatizing about this last match? Both players are the same age (11 months of difference is meaningless). Both players return from an injury. The match was played on Nadal's favorite surface, on his absolute favorite court, in his favorite conditions (hot, dry clay). It's not a very very big win for Djokovic but it just shows he is the better player today, at this late stage of their careers. They are both declining and out of form, so it was interesting to see who was going to win their last match. That's my take.
 
jackson vile said:
No one cared, I won’t even bother to watch the match
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Nonsense, many were excited about this match. Nadal seems to be well past his prime, the fact that he played and continues to play makes no sense to me. Still, however, it was good to see him turn back the clock for a few games in the second set.
 
And so the Nadal fan wept and wept, his tears amalgamated beneath his feet and streamed down the mountain of which he viewed the demolition of Nadal, his tears formed a rapid stream which swept the olympic village out to sea and when his eyes had dried like a barren desert and he had no more tears then he bequeathed his properties and all belongings to Nadal, then he simply passed, his soul dwindled and vanished and his will to live shriveled like a raisin and his body became a hollow lifeless husk upon that hill surrounded by a sea of tears.
 
Olli Jokinen said:
As long as I don’t have to listen to it.
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Sorry to hear that your majesty , we expect you to inherit the throne in this millennia.

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JFK_32 said:
I bet yes, but he just beat semiretired player :)
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No big deal. It was a battle of the same age group but different level. Novak's still top notch while Rafa mediocre player now. The Serb's proved to the Spaniard that his diet and lifestyle are essential to keep going.
 
It was big in the sense that Djokovic could not afford to lose considering where their levels are. If that happened it would be a massive choke in performance. Instead he came out and played for what I think was one of his best ballstriking sessions since ATP finals 2023.

Another thing is he prevented a tie in the h2h. He has had to do that preventing mostly on clay but that's besides the point.

All in all an expected win but a very important one.
 
RF-18 said:
It was big in the sense that Djokovic could not afford to lose considering where their levels are. If that happened it would be a massive choke in performance. Instead he came out and played for what I think was one of his best ballstriking sessions since ATP finals 2023.

Another thing is he prevented a tie in the h2h. He has had to do that preventing mostly on clay but that's besides the point.

All in all an expected win but a very important one.
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I wouldn't say so considering his vast dip in level and loss of momentum late in the second set.
 
KingCarlitos said:
I wouldn't say so considering his vast dip in level and loss of momentum late in the second set.
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For majority of the match he was hitting hard penetrating groundstrokes with great precision and going DTL at will, both his FH and BH looked lethal in ways I've only seen a couple of times the last 7-8 months. He was up 6-1 4-0, then the dip occured but he reset immediately and started the 9th game on Nadals serve with a BH DTL winner like nothing happened, and broke again and then served it out.

It was a well playing Djokovic out there swinging freely, that comeback/dip by Nadal/Djokovic doesn't change how well he looked overall. It was a different Djokovic, a pumped and concentrated one, not a lethargic one.
 
KingCarlitos said:
I wouldn't say so considering his vast dip in level and loss of momentum late in the second set.
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I think he lost a bit of focus to be honest. He needs better concentration and consistency against the better players. The ball striking and movement seemed a lot better. However, he will play a lot better players soon so we will see where he’s really at and if he’s improved.
 
RF-18 said:
For majority of the match he was hitting hard penetrating groundstrokes with great precision and going DTL at will, both his FH and BH looked lethal in ways I've only seen a couple of times the last 7-8 months. He was up 6-1 4-0, then the dip occured but he reset immediately and started the 9th game on Nadals serve with a BH DTL winner like nothing happened, and broke again and then served it out.

It was a well playing Djokovic out there swinging freely, that comeback/dip by Nadal/Djokovic doesn't change how well he looked overall. It was a different Djokovic, a pumped and concentrated one, not a lethargic one.
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I agree he looked more in control than recently although this could be a false dawn like Wimbledon...
 
grandefrankie said:
Of course they will. Djokovic fans are the dumbest fan base in tennis history, other than possibly Seles fans (it must be a Serbian thing). Atleast Seles fans have the stabbing as an excuse which opens the door to all kinds of ridiculous fantasies and delusions. I have said it before, most Djokovic fans on this site believe Djokovic is the GOAT even on clay, despite 11 fewer French Open titles to Nadal, and only half the RG titles and other clay achievements of Borg who retired at 25 and faced a way tougher field. That is how absurd they are. Todays win over a 5% of what he used to be Nadal will be used as evidence of that for them (Djokovic himself is only 60% of what he used to be, but still far more than the 5% Nadal is).
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Very poor taste, sport. We have good people here who are loyal to Djokovic.
 
Rafans were preparing to make a Nadal win tantamount to slam win! Let's not kid ourselves!

Yesterday's win, to Djokfans, would make it impossible for Rafans to claim H2H parity!
 
I don’t think Novak fans would have made a big deal out of the match ( probably relief ) but if Rafa would have got up a few of the Rafa fans would have been going off and off course the main stream media who doesn’t like Novak (or likes to make up things that aren’t there) would have made a big thing out of it.
 
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Night Slasher said:
It wasn't a joke, you've already posted several pretty toxic comments about Nole and his fans, which is indeed sad.
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This was a joke in response to this: "Nadal can no longer be considered clay GOAT after this pathetic display."
I think I know when I'm joking – and I am actually aware that Djokovic is the GOAT. Once again, a Djokovic fan who doesn't get it.
What's wrong with you people?
 
Olli Jokinen said:
This was a joke in response to this: "Nadal can no longer be considered clay GOAT after this pathetic display."
I think I know when I'm joking – and I am actually aware that Djokovic is the GOAT. Once again, a Djokovic fan who doesn't get it.
What's wrong with you people?
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Oh you are right, I apologize for quoting a wrong post, wasn't aware of that. This is what I wanted to reply to:
Olli Jokinen said:
I just hope Djokovic retires soon so we can all be rid of his fans. They’ll leave tennis when he does and never be heard of again.
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This wasn't a joke and yes, you are still sad.
 
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