Will Fed or Rafa win another slam?

What do you think?

  • Fed wins at least 1 more

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • Nadal wins at least 1 more

    Votes: 57 66.3%
  • Both Fed and Nadal win at least 1 more

    Votes: 5 5.8%
  • Neither will win; they are done

    Votes: 21 24.4%

  • Total voters
    86

kailash

Professional
Now that the 20-20-20 is still standing, most probably Rafa might win 1 or 2 more French opens.

Fed is probably doubtful because of the knee surgeries and age. What is your opinion?
 

DIMI_D

Semi-Pro
Yes Nadal has big chance next FO and maybe 23 and 24. Fed is done it’s retirement tour next yr
 

BGod

Legend
I forget when I last thought about Nadal's FO chances moving forward but at some point it gets tiring.

Voted that he doesn't win anymore largely because of his recent issues and him being 36 next year. Curious how he's looking at 24 Paris really as if he's planning on that then likely 1-2 more no? But he's already broken oldest French Open champion multiple times.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Depends on the knee for Raf. I think Fed is showing his age, at least this season, and the chance for a resurgence over a whole GS tourney is pretty doubtful. But Djo has no twice in a row folded hard, so even his time and opportunities should be questioned.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
I think it's magic thinking to believe that a man who needs a 3rd operation can win another slam. So I think Fed is done.

For the other two, I'll just say that time is marching on, so it's going to be increasingly unlikely for them to add more slams. For Rafa we have to see if he can get healthy enough to train hard. For Djokovic we have to watch his return stats, to see if he is going to fall below 30% for return games won, and pay close attention to that number this year on hard. His play at the USO this year is going to drop that number, but we don't get the figure for a couple more weeks.
 

Bubcay

Hall of Fame
Depending on the recovery time and drop in rankings, I voted for one more slam for Nadal. Federer does not have a chance anymore. If Nadal drops significantly in rankings, he is more likely to play top players way before finals, so that is a major factor in play.
 

Lgoel

New User
Nadal will definitely win more. Other than Djokovic , I don't anyone else can take out nadal. May be a hellish draw at FO might make it problematic for nadal.
Federer lost 6-0 at wimbledon last set. Until he is physically completely fit, capable of winning at least 2 5 setters and 2 4 setters in a grand slam, I think he is done
 
Let's not put them both in the same boat. Fed's chances are long gone. His last realistic shot was 2019, that was it and he blew it. Rafa on the other hand only a few months ago would have won RG if it wasn't for the performance of a lifetime from Djokovic. No one else, nor any other version of Djokovic would have won that match. He is still favourite to win next year and will work his body and fitness into a position to contend again.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Let's not put them both in the same boat. Fed's chances are long gone. His last realistic shot was 2019, that was it and he blew it. Rafa on the other hand only a few months ago would have won RG if it wasn't for the performance of a lifetime from Djokovic. No one else, nor any other version of Djokovic would have won that match. He is still favourite to win next year and will work his body and fitness into a position to contend again.
He will be 36 next year. At some point Thiem and the younger players will just be too much for him physically. Nadal is already looking old as hell.
 

mistik

Hall of Fame
It will be difficult for both off them.Rafa chance will be a little bit higher than Fed.70 percent Rafa can still win RG.
 

Hitman

G.O.A.T.
I wouldn't write them off completely, it is Fedal after all, but I think it is very likely chance they won't win another slam. Federer of course in a worse positon, but Nadal's position isn't anything good either with all his foot issues, both look totally broken down.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
Rogie will be lucky to walk normally again.

One can never write off Rafa at RG until he's 39.

But i have no idea how his foot will react; he played from june 2020 to june 2021 with this injury.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
The young guys are getting older and more experienced. I don’t think we will see more slams from the big3, definitely not from Roger and Rafa. Maybe Novak can win one or two, just maybe.
 
To me, it's obvious that Federer is very unlikely to win any more slams.

To me, it's also obvious that Nadal is more likely to win future slams than he is not to win any more slams, simply because he's still very likely to win Roland Garros again.

What's much more of a difficult question is whether he's more likely to win one of the other slams again than he is to be done outside Roland Garros. I think that I'm now leaning towards saying he's done outside Roland Garros, but it's close. He's got a decent shot of one more slam title elsewhere. Certainly a far better shot than Federer has of winning any further slams.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
nadal has one more us open left in him.......the quest for it resumes next year........he is the virtual defending us open champion, do not forget that.......
 

Simplicius

Semi-Pro
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Now all three are with 20 Slams.
ATP has to not allow those Group B hyperchargered players (from past decades) to drink all those "vitamins" again. They have the first place in the tennis history.
Let's move on!
 

Slicehand

Professional
At their age the problem is recovering during a two week grand slam and arriving to the final with decent legs, people at 25 dont really have that problem, its gonna get more and more difficult for them, stars have to align as you are saying, but thats nice, not having anything for granted and watching a real competition, we should be happy, but for djoko, unless medvedev suddenly becomes unbeatable at all slams, or other next gen steps up at the french like tsitsipas, or sonething like that, he has at least one or two in his legs easily
 
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Deleted member 771911

Guest
Hmmmm. Probably not. The floodgates just opened and I really think that now the other guys believe, the age thing is a real factor now. The Big 3 were relying a lot on the other guys folding but Meddy just showed them, hey look, it can be done.
 

Sunny014

Legend
I think it's magic thinking to believe that a man who needs a 3rd operation can win another slam. So I think Fed is done.

For the other two, I'll just say that time is marching on, so it's going to be increasingly unlikely for them to add more slams. For Rafa we have to see if he can get healthy enough to train hard. For Djokovic we have to watch his return stats, to see if he is going to fall below 30% for return games won, and pay close attention to that number this year on hard. His play at the USO this year is going to drop that number, but we don't get the figure for a couple more weeks.
Roger's obviously done. I'm 50/50 on Nadal.
Fed not done!
Conventional logic would suggest that Federer is done and dusted.

But if we think deeply, the Grass field is club class, if Novak is injured next wimbledon and Federer is full fit with his knee then he can vulture something ....
 

Sunny014

Legend
nadal has one more us open left in him.......the quest for it resumes next year........he is the virtual defending us open champion, do not forget that.......
hahhahahaha

He is not even a certainty for french due to his age and you think he has a USO in him ??

He is not freakin Pete Sampras to win a USO at this end of his career and for the field to be this weak next year, even in the absence of Novak there will be 2 dangerous hunters in Zverev and Medvedev, Rafa can never even dream to go past them now
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Nadal can win RG ,but everything depends on his foot injury .
Even if he recovers in 6 months , will he be able to grind for hours with 20-25 year olds ??
Will his foot be safe from permanent injury ??

Hope he recovers soon..
 

lordlosh

Semi-Pro
Big time laugh at people saying Nadal is the favorite for RG 22, and he can win 22, 23, 24 and all that nonsenses. But what to expect from people that didn't see the big fall coming in the RG 2021. :D
I was pretty much one of the very few who realistically and with argument post say why Nadal will lose RG 2021 to Djokovic before the match.

Nadal is going to be 36 next year, he is healing an injury now, which will mean he will have less time for preparation, which also mean he will be less consistent, and he will most probably have harder time get to his usual level. And his usual level will be even lower because of wear and tear. Next year he will be slower, and physically and consistently and everything you can imagine worst.
This is a natural proccess.
He pretty much can be out of top 10, which mean he will have way way harder opposition, unless they give him incredible easy draw, which will be hard.
And next you have that, that the new generation will be way stronger. I can bet my *** that Tsitsipas will be at least 20-30% stronger on all surfaces next year. Zverev will want to improve and do great at every GS. Medvedev will most probably improve even more, and actually want and become a factor on Clay as well. And you have a lot of other players that will try their best to improve and will be better than this season.
Even guys like Sinner, who are very young, already gave Nadal a hard time, and Nadal again will be worst, and Sinner will be better.
You got a lot of young players that are hard grinders and will give Nadal nightmares, and even if they don't beat him, they will wear him more, and at this stage, at 36 years(next year), how many tough matches he can handle ? All it needs is just 1-2 early hard matches, that will wear him hard, and with his style, he will be ready for the taking!

He may even be out of top 10 next year for RG. i just don't see him repeat the result before RG for sure, which will mean worst, worst placing.
What he may do is play a lot of tournaments before RG, which will risk an injury or more wear and tear.

As far as Federer goes. I was to put a lot for him to be the end GS leader, if it wasn't for this injury. Why? Because of his style of play. With his style if he is healthy he can play till 45. The problem with him is the f***** injury that obviously, cause him a huge problem, and he can't recover from it, and he obviously can't get match fit for more than few matches. If he somehow manages to heal and stay fit for the next 2-3-4-5 years, he actually have bigger chance than Nadal, simply because most of the newcomers absolutely s***** on grass, and you are not wasting much on the grass as well.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
Conventional logic would suggest that Federer is done and dusted.

But if we think deeply, the Grass field is club class, if Novak is injured next wimbledon and Federer is full fit with his knee then he can vulture something ....
If he wasn't fully fit this year he won't be next year with even less turnaround time on the surgery.

In 2020 he has surgery in like May or early June or something and still wasn't fully fit by July 2021.
 

Sunny014

Legend
2022 or 2023 Fed still has chances, his reflexes are still pretty good, no reason why he cannot be force until 43-44 yrs of age if his knees r right

In tennis movement + reflexes are everything, he has reflexes, need movement, thats it
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Big time laugh at people saying Nadal is the favorite for RG 22, and he can win 22, 23, 24 and all that nonsenses. But what to expect from people that didn't see the big fall coming in the RG 2021. :D
I was pretty much one of the very few who realistically and with argument post say why Nadal will lose RG 2021 to Djokovic before the match.

Nadal is going to be 36 next year, he is healing an injury now, which will mean he will have less time for preparation, which also mean he will be less consistent, and he will most probably have harder time get to his usual level. And his usual level will be even lower because of wear and tear. Next year he will be slower, and physically and consistently and everything you can imagine worst.
This is a natural proccess.
He pretty much can be out of top 10, which mean he will have way way harder opposition, unless they give him incredible easy draw, which will be hard.
And next you have that, that the new generation will be way stronger. I can bet my *** that Tsitsipas will be at least 20-30% stronger on all surfaces next year. Zverev will want to improve and do great at every GS. Medvedev will most probably improve even more, and actually want and become a factor on Clay as well. And you have a lot of other players that will try their best to improve and will be better than this season.
Even guys like Sinner, who are very young, already gave Nadal a hard time, and Nadal again will be worst, and Sinner will be better.
You got a lot of young players that are hard grinders and will give Nadal nightmares, and even if they don't beat him, they will wear him more, and at this stage, at 36 years(next year), how many tough matches he can handle ? All it needs is just 1-2 early hard matches, that will wear him hard, and with his style, he will be ready for the taking!

He may even be out of top 10 next year for RG. i just don't see him repeat the result before RG for sure, which will mean worst, worst placing.
What he may do is play a lot of tournaments before RG, which will risk an injury or more wear and tear.

As far as Federer goes. I was to put a lot for him to be the end GS leader, if it wasn't for this injury. Why? Because of his style of play. With his style if he is healthy he can play till 45. The problem with him is the f***** injury that obviously, cause him a huge problem, and he can't recover from it, and he obviously can't get match fit for more than few matches. If he somehow manages to heal and stay fit for the next 2-3-4-5 years, he actually have bigger chance than Nadal, simply because most of the newcomers absolutely s***** on grass, and you are not wasting much on the grass as well.
Assuming he recovers from the injury, it's inconceivable that he doesn't win at least 1 more RG. He would have beaten anyone there this year apart from Djokovic.
 

Julian Houston

Semi-Pro
Big time laugh at people saying Nadal is the favorite for RG 22, and he can win 22, 23, 24 and all that nonsenses. But what to expect from people that didn't see the big fall coming in the RG 2021. :D
I was pretty much one of the very few who realistically and with argument post say why Nadal will lose RG 2021 to Djokovic before the match.

Nadal is going to be 36 next year, he is healing an injury now, which will mean he will have less time for preparation, which also mean he will be less consistent, and he will most probably have harder time get to his usual level. And his usual level will be even lower because of wear and tear. Next year he will be slower, and physically and consistently and everything you can imagine worst.
This is a natural proccess.
He pretty much can be out of top 10, which mean he will have way way harder opposition, unless they give him incredible easy draw, which will be hard.
And next you have that, that the new generation will be way stronger. I can bet my *** that Tsitsipas will be at least 20-30% stronger on all surfaces next year. Zverev will want to improve and do great at every GS. Medvedev will most probably improve even more, and actually want and become a factor on Clay as well. And you have a lot of other players that will try their best to improve and will be better than this season.
Even guys like Sinner, who are very young, already gave Nadal a hard time, and Nadal again will be worst, and Sinner will be better.
You got a lot of young players that are hard grinders and will give Nadal nightmares, and even if they don't beat him, they will wear him more, and at this stage, at 36 years(next year), how many tough matches he can handle ? All it needs is just 1-2 early hard matches, that will wear him hard, and with his style, he will be ready for the taking!

He may even be out of top 10 next year for RG. i just don't see him repeat the result before RG for sure, which will mean worst, worst placing.
What he may do is play a lot of tournaments before RG, which will risk an injury or more wear and tear.

As far as Federer goes. I was to put a lot for him to be the end GS leader, if it wasn't for this injury. Why? Because of his style of play. With his style if he is healthy he can play till 45. The problem with him is the f***** injury that obviously, cause him a huge problem, and he can't recover from it, and he obviously can't get match fit for more than few matches. If he somehow manages to heal and stay fit for the next 2-3-4-5 years, he actually have bigger chance than Nadal, simply because most of the newcomers absolutely s***** on grass, and you are not wasting much on the grass as well.
Don't write off Nadal. He lost to Djokovic due to having night session in RG semi. He will not get another night semi and against Djokovic in consecutive years.

The final is always on hot afternoon, if he gets 1st semi he is a lock against anyone.
 

lordlosh

Semi-Pro
Assuming he recovers from the injury, it's inconceivable that he doesn't win at least 1 more RG. He would have beaten anyone there this year apart from Djokovic.
This is your thinking. He had an super easy draw, so so often at RG, and he is walking freely to the later stage. All it needs is just 1 or 2 hard matches, and then a solid opponent and he is out.
And again he is 100% be worst than this year, and his rivals will 500% be better next year.
And the gap was already super close. He barely manage to win against Tsitsipas and Shapo, and was due to they not manage to close the matches, and his serve antics, that more and more players are gonna challenge.
I don't see him winning anything.
And his ranking will be worsts, so he will get tough opposition, yeah he is as good as done at Slams. He need CRAZY luck and crazy easy draw to even have a chance.
Julian Houston, yeah, yeah pls more excuses i love this. He lost, because he was straight up beaten. That's why he lost. He lost to the better player and thats it.
He ain't 22 any longer, people should accept that.
 
Don't write off Nadal. He lost to Djokovic due to having night session in RG semi. He will not get another night semi and against Djokovic in consecutive years.

The final is always on hot afternoon, if he gets 1st semi he is a lock against anyone.
Not sure nadal would’ve beaten tsitsipas in the finals if they had met. By next year, it’s even more doubtful.
 

Purestriker

Semi-Pro
Now that the 20-20-20 is still standing, most probably Rafa might win 1 or 2 more French opens.

Fed is probably doubtful because of the knee surgeries and age. What is your opinion?
Rafa maybe...Fed no way. Just hope he can play again and go out on his terms.
 
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