Will Federer get to six?

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AM28143

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Federer has clinched the No. 1 ranking for the fourth consecutive year. Will he get to six and tie Pete's record? Will he break Pete's record? My opinion is that he will get to six, but fail to reach seven. Too bad he did not finish number one in 2003, if so he would have a very realistic chance to reach seven.
 
AM28143 said:
Federer has clinched the No. 1 ranking for the fourth consecutive year. Will he get to six and tie Pete's record? Will he break Pete's record? My opinion is that he will get to six, but fail to reach seven. Too bad he did not finish number one in 2003, if so he would have a very realistic chance to reach seven.
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Well the standard of tennis he's playing is well clear of the rest of the field at the moment, so he has every chance of making it up to six. How many more times he can do this depends mainly on two things.

1. If Tennis can keep his full attention. As soon as he becomes distracted by other things in his life or he becomes bored with tennis, if even only temporarily, the gap will close real fast.

2. What we are seeing is vaguely reminiscent of GRaf in the wome's game. There's always a chance that a Seles might come along.

Regards

Tim
 
He will atleast get to 7. I have no doubt he will end 2008, 2009, 2010 ranked #1.

Nadal will never do better then he does now, he is already dominant on clay, he can only go down if anywhere, and I doubt him even keeping as well as he is currently doing at Wimbledon by making finals. On hard courts he will never be one of the best, always a quarterfinal or worse performer.

Djokovic is good but he isnt really better then Federer on a single surface. He might become close enough to be a threat to Federer on every surface, but an underdog on every surface at the same time. I dont see him amassing the results over an overall year to best Federer.

Federer wont lose #1 until 2011, at the earliest.
 
grafrules said:
Prepare to be dissapointed, Fed makes a habit of dissapointing Fed haters and will again.
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yeah on this board it makes other haters even to give different opinion on Roger. Yeah he is winning but it won't last forever. If someone notice he has played less tournaments compare to others. If he doesn't win 3 Grand slams his number 1 will come under pressure.

Others are catching compare to previous year but time will tell..
 
nn said:
yeah on this board it makes other haters even to give different opinion on Roger. Yeah he is winning but it won't last forever. If someone notice he has played less tournaments compare to others. If he doesn't win 3 Grand slams his number 1 will come under pressure.

Others are catching compare to previous year but time will tell..
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He played less events since:

1)the circumstances at the time. The tough French Open final right before Halle, and the tough Davis Cup weekend right before Tokyo.

2)he did not feel under enough threat. If he did he would play more events to protect the ranking.
 
He's 26. He has at least 2 peak years left in him, maybe 3 or even 4 because his style of play doesn't tax him at all. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Federer on top for 3+ more years, so 7 is a real possibility.
 
No I don't think that he will make it.Starting from next year,it's going to be more and more hard to keep the no.1 spot.I see him losing it periodically even in 2008..
 
malakas said:
No I don't think that he will make it.Starting from next year,it's going to be more and more hard to keep the no.1 spot.I see him losing it periodically even in 2008..
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I think losing some matches early in tournaments actually will help him when it comes to the #1 ranking. He has nothing to defend for IW, Miami, Rome and he didn't play a warmup to Wimbledon this year, and he still has the #1 rank and the ATP race #1 going away. I think 2 slams and 7 tourney wins next year gets him YE #1...I can't see him doing worse than that.
 
BigServer1 said:
I think losing some matches early in tournaments actually will help him when it comes to the #1 ranking. He has nothing to defend for IW, Miami, Rome and he didn't play a warmup to Wimbledon this year, and he still has the #1 rank and the ATP race #1 going away. I think 2 slams and 7 tourney wins next year gets him YE #1...I can't see him doing worse than that.
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If Fed-god forbid!:p- loses early in the AO,and Djoker or Nads win it,then losing the no.1 spot is more than possible.:sad:
 
AM28143 said:
Federer has clinched the No. 1 ranking for the fourth consecutive year. Will he get to six and tie Pete's record? Will he break Pete's record? My opinion is that he will get to six, but fail to reach seven. Too bad he did not finish number one in 2003, if so he would have a very realistic chance to reach seven.
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He has ALREADY broken the record for most consecutive weeks at number 1... and it wasn't Sampras' record either.

What Sampras had was six YEAR-END number 1 rankings.....which meant he lost the ranking at man points during those six years.

Personally I really do not care if Federer gets to six year end number 1 rankings..... (though he may easily get there)... The big record for me was most consecutive weeks without losing the number 1 spot..and Federer has that.
 
califsurferboy33 said:
yeah his record of consecutive weeks i think is more prestigious then the year end number one ranking record
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i agree.
but it would be cool to get both ! ;)

it's amazing that the top3 (sampras 286, lendl 270, connors 268 ) for total weeks at #1 is so tight !
(roger is at 195 this week)

EDIT
typo corrected ;)
 
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malakas said:
If Fed-god forbid!:p- loses early in the AO,and Djoker or Nads win it,then losing the no.1 spot is more than possible.:sad:
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Nadal ever winning a hard court slam, let alone next year, good one. :lol: Djokovic? Well I am pretty sure Federer will win Australia, but I guess in the very unlikely event he didnt Djokovic would be an outside possability. However he is even further behind then Nadal in the points, and he is the one with more to defend coming in March. Roger is a long way from losing the #1 ranking.
 
federer played fewer tournaments than the other guys and he still has guaranteed himself as no1 for the year. in previous years he probably felt that he was so far ahead, he was wasting his energy and longevity playing so many tournaments when he could play less, last longer and still be no 1. everyone keeps saying he's losing his lead and everyone's catching up. he definitely played less tourneys this year than last year.

nadal on the other hand has been playing way too much, maybe he should have skipped a clay tournament.
 
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Year end #1 pales in comparison to total no of weeks. Sampras had to go all out to ensure some of those years he ended #1 because he wanted that legacy. Fed barely missed being #1 in 2003 because of his only loss to Roddics - 3rd set TB at Cincy.

These records are nice to have but the only one that matters is #slams.
 
Federer is just too damn consistent. As we have seen the past 3-4 years, Federer is the Timex watch, or the Energizer bunny. He just keeps on ticking with consistency, across all surfaces, and all year long. How many Finals has he reached in a row? He doesn't have to play as many tournaments as everyone else, because he racks up serious points in each tournament he enters.
 
Sampras in his 6 years: 43 titles, 10 GS, 8 TMS, 3 TMC, 22 Mickey Mouse.
Federer in his 4 years: 41 titles, 11 GS, 13 TMS, 2 TMC, 15 Mickey Mouse.
Sampras ending 6 years as no.1 is a footnote in tennis history. Nothing more.
 
rwn said:
Sampras in his 6 years: 43 titles, 10 GS, 8 TMS, 3 TMC, 22 Mickey Mouse.
Federer in his 4 years: 41 titles, 11 GS, 13 TMS, 2 TMC, 15 Mickey Mouse.
Sampras ending 6 years as no.1 is a footnote in tennis history. Nothing more.
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RWN: I agree. The year end No. 1 ranking is a much overrated statistic, because it does not tell you how dominant a player was during the year. For example, Justine Henin is the WTA's year end No. 1 player for both 2006 and 2007. She was truly dominant this year, but not last year, when Mauresmo was the top ranked player for most weeks until the year end championship. In fact, several organizations voted Mauresmo the player of the year, primarily because she won two Slams as opposed to Henin's one.

Federer has been far more dominant, by several criteria, in each of the past four years than Sampras ever was during his career.
 
Unless he wins the French, he can be 20 years as #1 and it still won't matter. Quality, not quantity, is needed.
 
sureshs said:
Unless he wins the French, he can be 20 years as #1 and it still won't matter. Quality, not quantity, is needed.
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So the only measure of quality, in your eyes, is the French Open? I guess I fail to see the logic there, since in tennis, quantity often equals quality. You don't win 11 Slams and make two finals in four years by playing low-quality tennis. Maybe you're just upset because you have been on your soapbox for a year now, preaching the end of Federer. He just keeps proving you wrong, and should continue to do so into 2008.
 
sureshs said:
Unless he wins the French, he can be 20 years as #1 and it still won't matter. Quality, not quantity, is needed.
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I haven't researched your previous posts on this, but can I assume that you consider Agassi a greater player than Sampras and Federer because he won all four of the Slams in his career? How about Connors and Wilander also, as they are the only two other players besides Agassi to win a Slam title on grass, clay, and hard courts?

We all know that Laver won the Grand Slam of all four majors in 1969 (albeit, with three out of the four being played on grass). Connors and Wilander won three out of the four Slams in one year in 1974 and 1988 respectively. However, Federer has won three out of four Slams in the same year in three different years, and has made a record 10 consecutive Slam finals, winning 8. That seems like both quantity and quality to me.
 
Jack the Hack said:
I haven't researched your previous posts on this, but can I assume that you consider Agassi a greater player than Sampras and Federer because he won all four of the Slams in his career?
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I don't think he said that.... it is possible that he values Sampras six additional slams over Agassi's ability to win a slam on clay.

What I think he's referring to is that unless he wins the French Open, he cannot be the clear GOAT. Rod Laver may be his vote for GOAT, as is the case with many, many tennis experts - (ignoring the accomplishments of pre open era greats like Budge or Tilden)

Though.. this is really irrelevant to this particular thread. This thread is about Federer getting to Sampras' six year end number 1's.

It really does not matter. Federer only needs to win 14 slams (2 more left) to be a greater player than Sampras was - Federer's French open final appearances already put him above Sampras if the slam totals are equal.

The debate will be Laver vs Federer...Sampras will simply become irrelevant since I dont forsee anyone claiming Sampras was a greater player because he had 2 more year-end number 1 rankings than Federer....
 
sureshs, you don't have to like Federer, but you should respect him as a player. in any other era, IMO, fed would have already win his French Open, most french open champions would struggle against Nadal. like you said, quality over quantity. The tennis Fed has produce in getting to the SF, F, F of the French open, is much better than the tennis that players who won the tournament multiple times.
 
Unless he wins the French, he can be 20 years as #1 and it still won't matter. Quality, not quantity, is needed.
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I nominate this as the dumbest, most delusional post ever by someone who's not a newbie troll (though that last part is debatable).
 
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