Will Federer Have More Weeks at #1 than Nadal and Djokovic combined

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  1. McEnroeisanartist

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    Do you think Federer will have more weeks at #1 than his "rivals" Nadal and Djokovic combined?

    If Nadal never reaches number one again, then Djokovic would have to be #1 for at least another 145 weeks. This seems like a tall order.

    It is interesting to note that Federer's consecutive weeks at #1 was 82 weeks longer than the length of Nadal's and Djokovic's consecutive weeks at 1.
     
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  2. Gonzo_style

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    "Will Federer have a more kids than Nadal and Djokovic combined"? Your next thread i guess....
     
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    Doesn't he already?
     
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    Well yeah, of course. I meant when all of their careers are over.
     
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    They will combined to have more slam count and total titles, but few things that they will not match:

    1. weeks #1.
    2. WTF
    3. Wimbledon
    4. Total hard court titles
     
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  6. Eugene Choi

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    Yes! Federers is the best! I think its like 287 weeks and continuing!
     
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    I still hope Nole can break some of Fed's records, if not most.
     
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  8. TMF

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    What kind of records you have in mind?
     
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  9. McEnroeisanartist

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    The only one that I can see is most Australian Opens. I could see Novak winning 2 more.
     
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    I've given this much thought. It depends.
     
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    Consecutive slam SFs?
    Total hardcourt slams?
    2 sets of all 4 majors?

    Personally, I want him to have more than 17 slams. I know it's a stretch, but not entirely impossible.
     
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    sorry to bust your dream. Novad is turning 26 soon.
     
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    Sorry, that's not going to happen. I expected an answer that is more realistic, not virtually impossible.
     
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  14. TMF

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    That's possible.

    Good answer !
     
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  15. NadalAgassi

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    The most slam semis in a row might be difficult but it is not impossible. The mens game has NO depth outside the top 4 right now and for the forseeable future, no matter how much you hype Ferrer. Berdych and Tsonga are the only dangerous players, Berdych is his slave, and Tsonga has become his slave in the last several years. Another 3.5 years worth of slam semis of every slam? Definitely possible.

    Anyway who are you to deem what is unrealistic. You are the one who claimed Serena had no chance to reach 20 majors which is looking increasingly laughable all the time.
     
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    Doesn't Fed hold that record with AA?
     
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    Well, you did ask what were in my mind, and I gave you the answer. I agree it does not seem very realistic, but I don't think it's 100% impossible.

    Apparently, I am too much of a Nole fan.
     
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    Not that I think she won't reach the 20 major count but she still needs to win those additional 5 GS championships to get there.
     
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    Agassi and Federer both have 4 AO
     
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    Agreed. We should just wait and see. No one can predict the future, so I don't need anyone to tell me what to think and what to hope for.
     
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    I agree. Djokovic has been very consistent, and may very well continue to be. All it takes is one loss, though. It will be exciting in a couple years if he starts getting closer.
     
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    Don't think so. Because probably the 1 will be one of those two (Nadal and Djokovic) for the next few years. Maybe Delpo or Murray will have some weeks. But I see Djokovic being N1 for the next few years and maybe Nadal too if he comes back strong.
     
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    Nole only has 10 straight semi., he's got 13 more to go. It's not only about apposing players he's going to have to overcome, but being healthy for over 3 years, not skipping any event. There's possible of upset can happen anytime, as we have seen Nadal lost to Rosol and Soderling. The focus/drive has to high and consistent. One mental lapse can cost you a match.

    I don't believe Serena will win 20 slams because that's too much for a women at 31. For the record, I was disageeing with you about Serena will end with 20 slams by the end of 2013.
     
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  24. NadalAgassi

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    I am not saying Djokovic WILL break Federer's slam semifinal record but it is not unrealistic he can. Right now there is nobody outside the top 4 who has a hope of beating him in a big match. His durability seems to be no longer a problem as it used to be either. So it is possible he will break the record, it is far from certain, just that he definitely could.

    Right now one lapse does not cost him a match before the semis. He can play a crap match and still get through until the semis of a slam right now, that seems clear. Only an injury or illness would. Whether that changes depends how much the field 5 ranked or lower improves or how soon he declines with age. Nadal is more vurnerable to an early upset as he easier for someone redlining to overpower than Djokovic.
     
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    Djokovic had to save match points against Tsonga in the quarters of RG.
     
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    Statistically Federer is overwhelmingly favoured to do this. The reason is that his achievement is in the bag and there are no variables to impinge upon it. For the other two guys there's and infinity of little things stacked against them as well as the brute fact of the rest of the field chasing them (albeit slowly - Raonic? Berdych?) as well as Father Time. Of course it could happen or Djokovic could break his thumb in training. Who knows?

    It amazes me the amount of people who make pronouncements as though through a crystal ball - "Nadal wil win 5 more majors," "Djokovic will be no. 1 for 200 weeks." Uh huh, what did they say about the Titanic? "Not even God himself could sink this ship.”
     
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    Yawn. Who cares ? Didn't you know that Nadal is the only player in world history to be ranked #2 for the longest period of time ?

    waiting for a certain someone to comment on this thread.
     
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    1. Check: 342 (201 + 141) vs 302
    2. Possible: 5 (5 + 0) vs 6
    3. Unlikely, but possible: 5 (3 + 2) vs 7
    4. Check: 63 (47 + 16) vs 60
     
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    Novak will likely make Fed's 302 weeks the 2nd longest in history.
     
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    Novak by himself might catch or pass Federer in #2, #4, and maybe even #1.

    As for #3 I don't think it is that unlikely Djokovic wins another 2 Wimbledons to create 7 combined Wimbledons for Djokodal. Federer could still win another Wimbledon though (I personally think it is his best chance at another slam).
     
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    Even back in October 2012, one daft question after another.
     
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    At least he doesn't have his nose buried so far up Sampras' arse he can't see the light of day.
     
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    You mean, it's up some other player which begins with the letter F instead? Yes, I would say so.
     
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    The answer is no.
    Next question is:
    Will Federer Have More Weeks at #1 than Djokovic?.

    See you back here in May 2018.
     
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    Doesn't he get a gift certificate to Olive Garden for that?! Get's to keep his margarita glass, if the kids behave, too. But he can't take Mirka anywhere. She's impossible.
    Do they hand out awards for lengthiest speeches? He's QUITE a talker. How about the most times a top 3 player has publically asked for stricter PEDs testing? The middle-aged guy who doesn't sweat wants stricter testing. Let's acknowledge THAT, too. Saint Roger.
     
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    So Novak is guaranteed to be #1 for at least the next 16 weeks?
     
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    That's right helterskelter. :)
     
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  39. jm1980

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    Yes, mathematically. Realistically I think the earliest he'll lose it will be during the North American HC season.

    If Djokovic didn't play a match from now until the USO (defending 3 M1000, RG Final, Wimbledon, 2 M1000 finals plus Dubai F), he would still have 9050 points, which is good enough for #1 right now.
    Obviously without Djokovic, Murray and Fed would easily pick up a lot of the points, but it's still ridiculous how much of a lead he's built.
     
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    @Djokovic2011 Thank you, both.

    Yes, I was asking about what's mathematically certain. Good to know that he's guaranteed to get above 200.

    If he decided to take 2016 off, I could imagine him losing the top ranking straight after Wimbledon, although that would likely require Murray to pick up the title there, win a couple of Masters events, and probably at least the semis, if not the final of Roland Garros. With Federer's injury and light schedule, I can't see him taking it so soon, even in those circumstances.

    Anyway, it's virtually guaranteed that he'll get to 210-215 in this run.
     
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