Will Jannik Sinner be the first non big 3 player to win 10+ titles in a single season
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helterskelter
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Are you asking whether he’ll win 10+ titles in 2024 or in one year at some point in his career?
dking68
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Some point in his career
dking68
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He can play very well on indoor and outdoor hard. Hence why Federer and Djokovic achieved 10+ titles more than once, unlike Nadal
helterskelter
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He might well do so, then, yes. In 2024: possible but unlikely.
I think Alcaraz might win 10+ titles one year, too.
dking68
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Sinner more likely to do so. Sinner is better on indoor by a landslide. He only lost 2 matches on indoor hard last year.
helterskelter
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Alcaraz is poor indoors, true. But I could imagine him one day winning something like this: Australian Open, Buenos Aires, Rio, Miami, Barcelona, Madrid, Roland Garros, Queen’s, Canada, Beijing.
dking68
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This will be his least successful slam due to the low bounce and speed of the court. I don’t see him winning more than 2 titles there in his career.
dking68
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Aussie Darcy
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Don't see it happening.
Players haven't gotten close to winning 10 titles in a season in a while.
Here's a look at most titles per season this century:
2023: Djokovic - 7
2022: Alcaraz & Djokovic - 5
2021: Zverev - 6
2020: Rublev - 5
2019: Djokovic & Thiem - 5
2018: Nadal - 5
2017: Federer - 7
2016: Murray - 9
2015: Djokovic - 11
2014: Djokovic - 7
2013: Nadal - 10
2012: Ferrer - 7
2011: Djokovic - 10
2010: Nadal - 7
2009: Murray - 6
2008: Nadal - 8
2007: Federer - 8
2006: Federer - 12
2005: Federer & Nadal - 11
2004: Federer - 11
2003: Federer - 7
2002: Hewitt & Agassi - 5
2001: Hewitt & Kuerten - 6
2000: Safin - 7
Double digits haven't happened since 2015, Murray came close in 2016 with 9 but nobody won above 7 in the last 7 seasons. Only 6 of the last 24 seasons have had a player win 10+.
Players haven't gotten close to winning 10 titles in a season in a while.
Here's a look at most titles per season this century:
2023: Djokovic - 7
2022: Alcaraz & Djokovic - 5
2021: Zverev - 6
2020: Rublev - 5
2019: Djokovic & Thiem - 5
2018: Nadal - 5
2017: Federer - 7
2016: Murray - 9
2015: Djokovic - 11
2014: Djokovic - 7
2013: Nadal - 10
2012: Ferrer - 7
2011: Djokovic - 10
2010: Nadal - 7
2009: Murray - 6
2008: Nadal - 8
2007: Federer - 8
2006: Federer - 12
2005: Federer & Nadal - 11
2004: Federer - 11
2003: Federer - 7
2002: Hewitt & Agassi - 5
2001: Hewitt & Kuerten - 6
2000: Safin - 7
Double digits haven't happened since 2015, Murray came close in 2016 with 9 but nobody won above 7 in the last 7 seasons. Only 6 of the last 24 seasons have had a player win 10+.
dking68
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Sinner 2024 >>> Zverev 2021. I’m sure Sinner can get 8 titles this season.
helterskelter
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This will be his least successful slam due to the low bounce and speed of the court. I don’t see him winning more than 2 titles there in his career.
Quite possibly true. But he just needs one of those two to occur in a season in which he sweeps a bunch of clay titles and at least one of IW and MI and he could get to 10. But you can take AO out and add USO instead to that list, if you prefer!
NeutralFan
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Imo he can definately win but I want our boy to win slams and I don't care about masters and 500s. They won't add much to his legacy.
dking68
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USO more likely. But Sinner will be favored on a hard court over the massively overhyped prodigious Spaniard.
GloW
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bro just called in his own sinner fan group LMAO
NeutralFan
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You know a lot for a new user!! Anyway, welcome to ttw, son!
Wait Nadal has won 10+ titles twice in 2005 and 2013 same as Djokovic if I am not wrong and one less than Federer. What is this nonsense and subtle dig at Nadal in a thread not associated with Nadal at all
I think he will do it this year. Because even if Djokovic will get to his top form soon, he won't be everywhere. Sinner on the other hand will play quite a lot of tournaments AND is also at least a potential candidate to win any big event he enters.
I wouldn't even rule him out on clay after the recent developments.
I wouldn't even rule him out on clay after the recent developments.
MichaelNadal
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weakera
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Looks like you might be suffering from Nadal Derangement Syndrome (NDS)
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helterskelter
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Yes, Sinner should for the most part be favorite against him at both of the hard-court slams (and a fortiori indoors) - but not at Roland Garros, I think.
With Djokovic's loss last night, Sinner's path to #1 is probably a bit easier. He gets to #2 if he outdoes or equals Alcaraz at Indian Wells, but Miami could cause a delay. If he were to win IW, do you think he might withdraw from Miami? I hope he doesn't. It's fair enough to only play a few events in your 30s, but at 22, I think it's best to try to play almost all the major events. He could skip Monte Carlo instead.
Edit: I just saw that #2 doesn't depend only on equaling Alcaraz, because if he and Alcaraz both lost prior to the SF, Meddy would be #2 if he won IW. Either way, if Sinner makes the final of IW, he is #2 next week. If he loses the SF to someone other than Alcaraz, he is #2 next week.
dking68
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I think Sinner will win IW.
helterskelter
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He's certainly the favorite now, but a long way to go. Shelton is the second-last person to beat him, so not to be taken lightly.
Do you think he'll play Miami even if he does win IW?
dking68
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Yes I think he’ll play Miami. He made the final there
dking68
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Possible, not probable. The high amount of prize money and endorsements around mean top players don't have to be playing week in week out to make a living any more.
Sudacafan
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This is helpful. Thanks.
helterskelter
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It is tough to win ten titles in a year, but part of that recent history is the top players being 30+ from 2017 onwards and so playing a lighter schedule than Sinner (or Alcaraz) need to play at their ages.
helterskelter
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He should. Older players may be wise not to overplay. Younger players should play as often as possible.
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