Will Nadal get to these milestones?

[MadariKatu]

As of now, Nadal is the only player ever to have won 400+ matches in both clay and hardcourts. With 490 on hardcourt, it is a given that he'll get to 500. On clay, he's at 445. Since there are fewer clay tournaments, he'd need 2-3 good years to get there. I say it's pretty likely he gets it too.

But here is my question: will he pass the players who have more wins than him at each surface?

Current standings:

On hard
4 Nadal 490
3 Agassi 592
2 Djokovic 613 (and counting)
1 Federer 782 (and counting)

On clay
3 Nadal 445
2 Manolo Orantes 569
1 Guillermo Vilas 681

I think Vilas' record will stand there for eternity, unless there are more big tournaments on clay. On a good clay season, you can get something like 25 wins, if I'm not wrong, so he needs to keep this level more at least 5 years or so to get past Orantes. On hard he needs 100 matches to surpass Agassi; at this rate I'd say about 3-4 years or so. Not realistic to get to Djokovic, even less to Federer numbers on hard.

Do you think he will make it?

 

[mike danny]

Can you also provide the numbers for grass?

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[Jonesy]

Never doubt Nadal, especially on clay.

 

[MadariKatu]

Can you also provide the numbers for grass?

Ok, wasn't thinking about grass, since he's too far off from the all-time leaderboard... He might get to Lendl, but don't think he will pass Laver

41	AUS	Brad Drewett	84
41	AUS	Kim Warwick	84
41	GBR	Tim Henman	84
44	USA	Marty Riessen	83
45	ESP	Feliciano Lopez	81
45	USA	Ivan Lendl	81
45	SWE	Jonas Bjorkman	81
48	USA	Robert Lutz	80
49	ROU	Ilie Nastase	77
50	AUS	Patrick Rafter	74
51	CRO	Ivo Karlovic	73
51	USA	Tim Wilkison	73
53	SWE	Bjorn Borg	72
54	CRO	Goran Ivanisevic	71
54	ARG	Guillermo Vilas	71
54	USA	Kevin Curren	71
54	GBR	Mark Cox	71
54	ESP	Rafael Nadal	71
59	USA	Brian Gottfried	70
59	FRA	Richard Gasquet	70

 

[MadariKatu]

21	USA	Pete Sampras	101
22	AUS	Pat Cash	99
22	SWE	Stefan Edberg	99
24	AUS	John Fitzgerald	98
24	GBR	Roger Taylor	98
26	USA	Hank Pfister	96
27	SRB	Novak Djokovic	95
28	NZL	Onny Parun	94
29	AUS	Ross Case	91
30	USA	Clark Graebner	90
30	AUS	Ray Ruffels	90
30	USA	Tim Mayotte	90
33	AUS	Allan Stone	89
33	AUS	Rod Laver	89
35	USA	Andy Roddick	86
35	AUS	Dick Crealy	86
35	GBR	Greg Rusedski	86
35	USA	Tom Gorman	86
39	USA	Brian Teacher	85
39	USA	Johan Kriek	85

 

[MadariKatu]

1	SUI	Roger Federer	187
2	USA	Jimmy Connors	178
3	AUS	John Newcombe	164
4	USA	Stan Smith	148
5	AUS	Phil Dent	145
6	AUS	Ken Rosewall	139
7	AUS	Tony Roche	135
8	AUS	John Alexander	134
9	AUS	Lleyton Hewitt	129
10	USA	Arthur Ashe	125
11	USA	John McEnroe	121
12	USA	Roscoe Tanner	118
13	GER	Boris Becker	116
14	AUS	Colin Dibley	114
15	AUS	Wally Masur	112
16	NED	Tom Okker	110
17	AUS	Mark Edmondson	109
18	RUS	Alex Metreveli	108
19	GBR	Andy Murray	107
20	IND	Vijay Amritraj	105

 

[mike danny]

Did not expect Hewitt to have more match wins on grass than Pete. Did not expect any of these guys to have more match wins than Pete.

 

[Third Serve]

Did not expect Hewitt to have more match wins on grass than Pete. Did not expect any of these guys to have more match wins than Pete.

Hewitt was quite good in some of the smaller grass tourneys while PETE didn't put in all the effort in those.

 

[Third Serve]

Now what does surprise me is Hewitt being ahead of Roddick here by a margin of about 40 matches.

 

[mike danny]

Now what does surprise me is Hewitt being ahead of Roddick here.

I guess he didn't just play Queens?

And the fact that he kept playing a few more years than Roddick.

 

[mike danny]

@Third Serve, and the fact that he did break through earlier than Roddick.

 

[mike danny]

@Third Serve, as additional information, Hewitt was already playing Becker on grass LOL.

 

[tonylg]

Hewigoat

 

[mike danny]

I don't think he'll come close to the highest totals on each surface.

But on clay, he doesn't need to. Those guys above him played a lot of smaller events to inflate their numbers. I'm sure having 13+ RG titles will have to do.

 

[MadariKatu]

I don't think he'll come close to the highest totals on each surface.

But on clay, he doesn't need to. Those guys above him played a lot of smaller events to inflate their numbers. I'm sure having 13+ RG titles will have to do.

I agree he doesn't need to do it on clay. I guess in a way the question was if he'll keep playing with this winning rate for around 5 years. That is what I roughly estimated would be needed for him to pass Agassi on hard and Orantes on clay.