Will Nadal round his resume? Where is his biggest chace?

Nadal will win before retirement

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I think the biggest question as far as his all-around resume was that 2nd Australian. He got it, and I also think he doesn't even think about any of that smaller stuff listed above. They just can't be a priority at this stage, and given the way careers are judged nowadays he's right not to worry about anything finer than having gotten that double career GS. Time now just to make the most of what he has left, and add whatever (ANY, doesn't matter which) additional Slam trophies he can.
 
bigbadboaz said:
I think the biggest question as far as his all-around resume was that 2nd Australian. He got it, and I also think he doesn't even think about any of that smaller stuff listed above. They just can't be a priority at this stage, and given the way careers are judged nowadays he's right not to worry about anything finer than having gotten that double career GS. Time now just to make the most of what he has left, and add whatever (ANY, doesn't matter which) additional Slam trophies he can.
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Time to hang up boots. He doesn't care because he can't win anymore big titles
 
Dennis Peterson said:
Biggest Obstacle For Novak to win Olympics = Held once in 4 years

Imagine if Wimbledon was held once in 4 years

2005 - 2009 - 2013 - 2017 - 2021

There, Nadal wins 0 wimbledons in this scenario despite being a great player on Grass.
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Biggest obstacle for Novak to win Olympics is his mental breakdown when a lot is at stake. The guy just melts mentally and can't win **** under big pressure.
 
RaulRamirez said:
I'm looking at the thread title and envisioning a clueless HR manager type saying something like: "Well, Mr. Nadal, while you have won the most slams, the second most M1000s, countless tournaments, 5 YE#1s, Olympics gold and 8 of your slams were off of clay (which only Djoker, Fed, Sampras and Laver can top in the OE), we're concerned that your resume is not well-rounded enough for our needs. We invite you to apply again after you've won any of Miami, Paris or the WTF - preferably all three."
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All it says is that Djokovic is a more complete and versatile player than Nadal, and that's a very strong argument in the goat debate. Djokovic has won every single Slams and Masters not once, but twice. His adaptability is unmatchable. Neither Federer or Nadal were able to win all Masters once. Djokovic won twice. That's huge.

Nadal obviously struggles in Indoors hard courts, as he has never won Paris, WTF and Shanghai. Only 1 indoor title in 20 years of career.
And Miami is one of the most prestigious events after the Slams. Nadal couldn't win 1.
Djokovic's least successful tournament is Monte-Carlo and he still managed to snag 2 titles there, + a couple of finals.

I also think Nadal doesn't care about these holes anymore. His problem. Not winning all the Masters twice is one thing, but not being able to win them once is quite problematic if we have to determine who is the most complete player ever. Especially WFT, the 5th Major. 0 title in 10 attempts.
 
bigbadboaz said:
I think the biggest question as far as his all-around resume was that 2nd Australian. He got it, and I also think he doesn't even think about any of that smaller stuff listed above. They just can't be a priority at this stage, and given the way careers are judged nowadays he's right not to worry about anything finer than having gotten that double career GS. Time now just to make the most of what he has left, and add whatever (ANY, doesn't matter which) additional Slam trophies he can.
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You mean because he’s not good enough to win them. He’s not versatile enough to adapt to different courts and conditions like Djokovic is! ;)
 
mahatma said:
Time to hang up boots. He doesn't care because he can't win anymore big titles
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Ombelibable said:
Unfortunately, yes. IDK why he's doing that.
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For real? Hopefully, he skips it. There is no need to play that garbage tournament where he has never done very well anyway. He should just pull the ripcord on the rest of this year and start fresh for next year. He has more than enough exos scheduled in November/December to give him enough match practice.
 
Backspin1183 said:
No peak Federer or peak Djokovic this time. Oldkovic and Alcatraz won't be able to stop him if he's healthy.
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Why does Rafa even bother playing post USO HC season is really confusing to me, honestly speaking. He should focus his time & resources to properly recover, rebuild strength & be ready to attack the slams again next year. The grind here is not worth it, as this part of the season is not a stronghold of Rafa's.
 
Humphrey20133 said:
For real? Hopefully, he skips it. There is no need to play that garbage tournament where he has never done very well anyway. He should just pull the ripcord on the rest of this year and start fresh for next year. He has more than enough exos scheduled in November/December to give him enough match practice.
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That's what I had hope too, since he's got injuries and a newborn baby.
 
kevaninho said:
Unless youre a Djokovic fan, there are many players who played at Masters tournaments their whole career without winning 1.

Federer had 17 attempts at Rome with 0 wins, along with 12 attempts at MC, with 0 wins.

Doesnt mean its a 'pathetic' record.
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Both are pathetic records lmfao
 
Ombelibable said:
Unfortunately, yes. IDK why he's doing that.
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He's automatically on the tournament players list, until he officially say he won't play. It's the case with any other player who is ranked high enough. So, being on the list means nothing and we will see who will play. Why people can't learn those simple tennis rules?
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Why does Rafa even bother playing post USO HC season is really confusing to me, honestly speaking. He should focus his time & resources to properly recover, rebuild strength & be ready to attack the slams again next year. The grind here is not worth it, as this part of the season is not a stronghold of Rafa's.
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Bolded.
That's what I'm talking about. He need to play in stronghold to win. Novak as a opposite sample had Cincinnati as "not a stronghold", he struggled, but won it, twice. Nadal just can't round his resume, not at one tournament, not two tournaments, but three tournaments. Will he ever do it?
 
tennis_error said:
Bolded.
That's what I'm talking about. He need to play in stronghold to win. Novak as a opposite sample had Cincinnati as "not a stronghold", he struggled, but won it, twice. Nadal just can't round his resume, not at one tournament, not two tournaments, but three tournaments. Will he ever do it?
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He has a pretty rounded resume.
 
timnz said:
I had it some years ago, but haven't been able to recover it so far. From memory Nadal talked about the 'Masters' (referring to the old name for the WTF) and how it was a priority for him. If I find it again, I will post it here.
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Doubt it is anymore. Tbh he often looks a bit flat now outside Majors. Thought that in IW. The Kyrgios match though seemed to fire him up
 
BeatlesFan said:
He has 22 slams. He doesn’t need to do anything additional. Nobody on the planet thinks if he wins Paris indoor that it will enhance his resume.
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Of course it does. Winning an indoor Masters which he has never done would enhance his resume. Only Nadal fans think that the slams are all that matters. Then why play those clay Masters? Why play the YE Championships?
 
Fabresque said:
Both are pathetic records lmfao
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No one denies that Nadal is one of the greatest players of all time. What we deny is that he is as well-rounded as Djokovic. He was good enough to get the DCGS though it is very unlikely he would have gotten it if Djokovic was able to play (19 straight sets on hardcourt over 9 years gives a lot of confidence that this would have been true). But good for him, he took advantage of the situation to get the DCGS. But Djokovic is likely to get a triple career GS and has so many things that Nadal doesn't have other than clay records.
 
Texas Tennis Fan said:
No one denies that Nadal is one of the greatest players of all time. What we deny is that he is as well-rounded as Djokovic. He was good enough to get the DCGS though it is very unlikely he would have gotten it if Djokovic was able to play (19 straight sets on hardcourt over 9 years gives a lot of confidence that this would have been true). But good for him, he took advantage of the situation to get the DCGS. But Djokovic is likely to get a triple career GS and has so many things that Nadal doesn't have other than clay records.
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True. It's really comparing Nadal to another GOAT tier player that he is directly competing with. Nadal blows most out of the water as it stands, but Djokovic still has the more rounded resume of the two.
 
Hitman said:
True. It's really comparing Nadal to another GOAT tier player that he is directly competing with. Nadal blows most out of the water as it stands, but Djokovic still has the more rounded resume of the two.
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And likely if Djokovic can play all or almost all the tournaments IN 2023 AND 2024, it will just be that much more evident who is the overall GOAT.

The [Nadal fans] doth protest too much, methinks (Hamlet).

They have to push the 22>21 (even with the huge clay skew) and 1 OG, because IT IS ALL THEY HAVE IN THE RESUMES OF NADAL VS DJOKOVIC.
 
Texas Tennis Fan said:
And likely if Djokovic can play all or almost all the tournaments IN 2023 AND 2024, it will just be that much more evident who is the overall GOAT.

The [Nadal fans] doth protest too much, methinks (Hamlet).

They have to push the 22>21 (even with the huge clay skew) and 1 OG, because IT IS ALL THEY HAVE IN THE RESUMES OF NADAL VS DJOKOVIC.
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Well, if we have tennis legitimacy at all four slams again, then I guess we shall see. :)
 
So, Nadal will play both Paris and Torino, although this fans say those means nothing and Nadal doesn't care, lol...
Well, will he win zero, one or both? :unsure:
 
Nobody outside of internet forums cares about "rounding out resumes". To the general public, number of slam titles, having a Career Slam, and being ranked #1 is all that matters. Majority of tennis fans even outside this forum couldn't tell you how many exact weeks at #1 players have or how many Masters titles each player has. You think casual fans care about year-end titles or completing the set of all Masters titles? It's just not as important as we all try to make it out to be.

Even for GOAT debate, you don't see writers talk about YEC titles or Masters 1000 variety of titles. Heck, even in the Former Pro Players section here - when comparing players like Lendl and Agassi - the YEC doesn't come up as a data point of comparison.
 
triforce defender said:
Nobody outside of internet forums cares about "rounding out resumes". To the general public, number of slam titles, having a Career Slam, and being ranked #1 is all that matters. Majority of tennis fans even outside this forum couldn't tell you how many exact weeks at #1 players have or how many Masters titles each player has. You think casual fans care about year-end titles or completing the set of all Masters titles? It's just not as important as we all try to make it out to be.

Even for GOAT debate, you don't see writers talk about YEC titles or Masters 1000 variety of titles. Heck, even in the Former Pro Players section here - when comparing players like Lendl and Agassi - the YEC doesn't come up as a data point of comparison.
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Your claims are very bold, and it seems you interviewed millions of tennis fans around the world and did great statistic research... ;)
I'm probably an outlier that doest fit your study results, but I think a rounded resume is extremely important in tennis...
 
The only great title that Nadal lacks is the ATP Finals, the other tournaments are just second tier.
It will never be a tournament at the level of a Grand Slam event but it is undoubtedly, after these (along with the gold medal in the Olympic tennis competition), the one that follows in importance.
:D
 
tennis_error said:
Your claims are very bold, and it seems you interviewed millions of tennis fans around the world and did great statistic research... ;)
I'm probably an outlier that doest fit your study results, but I think a rounded resume is extremely important in tennis...
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I don't disagree that it's nice to have a well-rounded resume. I'm just saying that "rounding the resume" is more of an internet forum issue than of actual importance in the broad scheme of things. Should a well-rounded resume be more important in general can be of debate, but the fact of the matter is that it probably doesn't matter all that much among the general tennis and sports fans. Number of Slams and Career Slam trumps other stats by a country mile.
 
triforce defender said:
I don't disagree that it's nice to have a well-rounded resume. I'm just saying that "rounding the resume" is more of an internet forum issue than of actual importance in the broad scheme of things. Should a well-rounded resume be more important in general can be of debate, but the fact of the matter is that it probably doesn't matter all that much among the general tennis and sports fans. Number of Slams and Career Slam trumps other stats by a country mile.
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Even if that's true about "only slams matters" mantra, it's so shallow look at tennis that way, so I don't care for shallow general fans. I'm Novak fan, I'm convinced Novak will have most slams, but having few slams more than Rafa won't be main reason Novak is greater tennis player, and looking at wider picture shows he's already greater tennis player, while Nadal is greater clay tennis player.
 
tennis_error said:
Even if that's true about "only slams matters" mantra, it's so shallow look at tennis that way, so I don't care for shallow general fans. I'm Novak fan, I'm convinced Novak will have most slams, but having few slams more than Rafa won't be main reason Novak is greater tennis player, and looking at wider picture shows he's already greater tennis player, while Nadal is greater clay tennis player.
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Novak having the most weeks at #1 will help him in the GOAT arguments even to casual fans. But other stuff like Golden Masters won't matter much to those who aren't obsessive tennis nerds.
 
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