Will Rafa ever win another title

Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
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No need to get triggered . Take it easy
 
ND-13 said:
LOL, it is not that serious bud.

RF has moved the sport and billions of fans in a way that only he could. The 20 or 22 majors does not impact him or for me at the end of the day.

I don’t know why you feel belittled when j say Novak may fall short of the overall titles . It is not that deep.
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It doesn’t impact you yet you make thread after thread trying to discredit Djokovic achievements or why he’s not better than Fedal! I’m sorry bud but no one believes you! Lmao

By the way money or endorsements doesn’t do jack. We talking about what happens on the tennis court and Fed came out 3rd best. That is all so deal with it.
 
Hitman said:
But you are celebrating a record that Federer doesn't own. It's Connor's record.
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That is true, although this is an instance where it's reasonable to draw a distinction between the early Open Era and the modern Open Era. The men's tour was not nearly as consolidated in the 1970s as it is now. Connors won some events that might be classed as off-tour or even as exhibitions by today's standards. E.g., https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Open. The ATP has retroactively recognized these titles, but that doesn't erase all the historical differences. So yes, Connors is the record holder, but he had one foot in a different tennis epoch.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
It doesn’t impact you yet you make thread after thread trying to discredit Djokovic achievements or why he’s not better than Fedal! I’m sorry bud but no one believes you! Lmao

By the way money or endorsements doesn’t do Jack. We talking about what happens on the tennis court and Fed came out 3rd best. That is all so deal with it.
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There is not much to give and take between the 3. And there are other players from the past who deserve as much credit as big 3

It is a concept that is difficult for most Nolefam to comprehend
 
ND-13 said:
There is not much to give and take between the 3. And there are other players from the past who deserve as much credit as big 3

It is a concept that is difficult for most Nolefam to comprehend
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4 slams difference bud. A long with many other records. I’m sorry but Fed has been left behind. Even Fed would tell you that himself.
 
Neither Djoker or Nadal will win another title. They need to retire after Olympics together. It’s getting pathetic watching them hang on for dear life. Find something else to do
 
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ND-13 said:
LOL, it is not that serious bud.

RF has moved the sport and billions of fans in a way that only he could. The 20 or 22 majors does not impact him or for me at the end of the day.

I don’t know why you feel belittled when j say Novak may fall short of the overall titles . It is not that deep.
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Yeah it's not serious, yet here you are day after day obsessed with it, with Djokovic overtaking Federer. It's about Djokovic for you 24/7.

Maybe you should take your own advise and let it go.
 
Rattie said:
Harsh but I can’t argue with it, no matter how much I wish it were otherwise. :( He’s not an old man though. 38 (off a tennis court) is not even middle aged these days lol

He was completely out of gas coming into the final and it showed. Unless something convinces him otherwise, I see him competing at the Olympics and LC and calling it a day.
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When I say old man, I only mean in tennis. Of course he is in the prime of his life otherwise.

I think this event will give him a lot to think about, does he really want to spend the rest of his career losing to guys who he used to beat in his sleep in the spirit of competition or does he feel he has done what he can do and move onto bigger and better things. His legacy will always be of a tennis God, just like Federer and Djokovic, nothing will ever tarnish it.
 
Hitman said:
Yeah it's not serious, yet here you are day after day obsessed with it, with Djokovic overtaking Federer. It's about Djokovic for you 24/7.

Maybe you should take your own advise and let it go.
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If Djokovic has the records and there is no need to defend, perhaps there should be no victim complex, insecurity and let other fan base say what they feel like ? There is really no need to get triggered as Novak has the most wiki records anyway.

I don’t have anything more to say here.
 
TheGoldenEra1990’s said:
It’s basically the same boat since neither will win another title. And he was only in the field because of that horrid draw and QF byes. Djoker is incapable of beating a top guy now
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If Djokovic had played that 250 event he would have won. Djokovic can still vulture smaller events because his tennis, movement and physicality is still a lot better than nadal now.

I agree he might not win a slam but for me it’s very premature to say he can’t win a title fullstop.
 
ND-13 said:
If Djokovic has the records and there is no need to defend, perhaps there should be no victim complex, insecurity and let other fan base say what they feel like ? There is really no need to get triggered as Novak has the most wiki records anyway.

I don’t have anything more to say here.
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You are obsessed with Djokovic. That’s our point. Nearly all your posts or threads on here are taking a subtle dig at him or his fanbase.

Have you nothing better to do in life but troll on here over a guy you don’t even know? It weird behaviour dude.
 
ND-13 said:
If Djokovic has the records and there is no need to defend, perhaps there should be no victim complex, insecurity and let other fan base say what they feel like ? There is really no need to get triggered as Novak has the most wiki records anyway.

I don’t have anything more to say here.
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Other fanbase?

You're the one parroting about it every day in almost every single post you put up. Literally everything you write is a dig at Djokovic, don't you get tired? It is exhausting just reading it everywhere I look.

Why was Federer winning the slam race so important for you? What would it have done for your life? What validation would it have given you?

You've given Novak an unhealthy amount of importance in your head, let it go bruh, it's not good.
 
Just seen his presser, he claims that he was practicing much better than he played which is both negative and positive. He was disappointed in his level this week but does seem hopeful that he can recover his level more. Also stated that even though he was low on energy today, this was no explanation as to how poor he played. As we all felt, biggest positive this week was that he was challenged physically and his body held up.

 
ND-13 said:
LOL, it is not that serious bud.

RF has moved the sport and billions of fans in a way that only he could. The 20 or 22 majors does not impact him or for me at the end of the day.

I don’t know why you feel belittled when j say Novak may fall short of the overall titles . It is not that deep.
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Novak is the winner, Rafa is a loser, Fed is also a loser.

Please understand this.

24 > 22 > 20
 
Razer said:
Novak is the winner, Rafa is a loser, Fed is also a loser.

Please understand this.

24 > 22 > 20
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He is that pained. This guy contradicts himself daily. Says this doesn’t matter but then went on to say Fed had more career titles then Djokovic and it’s important.

Apparently winning atp 250 and 500 events are important but not slam numbers! Lol

24 > 22 > 20 must haunt him in his sleep. That is why he’s a fake Carlos fan now to hope he gets past 25 to give him some negative joy.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
He is that pained. This guy contradicts himself daily. Says this doesn’t matter but then went on to say Fed had more career titles then Djokovic and it’s important.

Apparently winning atp 250 and 500 events are important but not slam numbers! Lol

24 > 22 > 20 must haunt him in his sleep. That is why he’s a fake Carlos fan now to hope he gets past 25 to give him some negative joy.
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That's why I said many times in the past, that a lot of folks invested an unhealthy amount of emotional energy into this slam race, and it has devastated so many that their guy wasn't the guy who won the race in the end.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
He is that pained. This guy contradicts himself daily. Says this doesn’t matter but then went on to say Fed had more career titles then Djokovic and it’s important.

Apparently winning atp 250 and 500 events are important but not slam numbers! Lol

24 > 22 > 20 must haunt him in his sleep. That is why he’s a fake Carlos fan now to hope he gets past 25 to give him some negative joy.
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He needs to understand that there is nothing more important in life than numbers.

This was the case when Federer was holding the Record for 12 years, it is the case even now, nothing has changed, whoever has the numbers is the Leader of the Tennis..... at least on the tennis court.

Maybe outside the tennis court brand value and popularity come into play but when people are on the tennis court then the stature is highest for the man with the numbers.
 
Lleytonstation said:
That's a bit harsh for a 20 time slam winner who holds the most wc titles and has over 100 titles, eh?

Same for rafa, they are not losers lol
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Yes they are losers. There is no need to surgarcoat, in the slams race they are losers now, Djokovic has won and this IS a BIG DEAL.

Fed got all his records butchered shamelessly and Nadal never even had the throne like Fed, he is even worse because he was always rank 2.

See in these conversations it is about who is the best, so if we Fed fans held the edge before 2020 in proclaiming Fed as the best on the numbers then now in 2024 we cannot revert our stance, the numbers are all that count, so if anyone refuses to give the same courtesy to Novak that was given to Fed when he held the record then it is time to remind people in a harsh tone that Federer and Nadal are losers, Djokovic won the slams race..... Period !
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
If Djokovic had played that 250 event he would have won. Djokovic can still vulture smaller events because his tennis, movement and physicality is still a lot better than nadal now.

I agree he might not win a slam but for me it’s very premature to say he can’t win a title fullstop.
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What does winning Mickey Mouse tournaments do for djoker in the long run ? I guess when I say titles I mean titles that matter. Not country club outhouse prizes LOL
 
Hitman said:
So what we are getting excited about? Who comes second to Connors out of these three guys? LOL
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Federer, and especially Connors, played many 250 and in Connors case even smaller tournaments. IMO, Connors total is much inflated with Roger's less so, but more than Rafa's or Novak's. In the end, it is the big titles that matter most, and Novak is superior to all in the open era.
 
Razer said:
Yes they are losers. There is no need to surgarcoat, in the slams race they are losers now, Djokovic has won and this IS a BIG DEAL.

Fed got all his records butchered shamelessly and Nadal never even had the throne like Fed, he is even worse because he was always rank 2.

See in these conversations it is about who is the best, so if we Fed fans held the edge before 2020 in proclaiming Fed as the best on the numbers then now in 2024 we cannot revert our stance, the numbers are all that count, so if anyone refuses to give the same courtesy to Novak that was given to Fed when he held the record then it is time to remind people in a harsh tone that Federer and Nadal are losers, Djokovic won the slams race..... Period !
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Yeah that's great and all and I have djoker as the best, but they are not losers.
 
Two things were very evident this week in Rafa’s singles play.

1. His legs are completely gone. What used to be his biggest asset has now become his biggest liability.

2. His shot depth was absolutely dreadful. This comes from lack of match play and reps vs actual opponents, not hitting partners.

I don’t think he can make a run at the Olympics in his current condition. In doubles, he can get carried a little and also he will not have to run around as much, preserving his legs.

He’s playing the USO, so he’ll more than likely play a hardcourt tournament beforehand, more than likely Cincy as it’s the closest to the USO schedule wise.

I don’t see Rafa winning any titles again unless he plays those Feb clay court in 2025 and gets some help.
 
Sadly I think he is done. When the king of clay struggles through a clay court tournament against such low ranked players and can't win the final then sadly I don't see where he goes from here other than into retirement.
 
GabeT said:
novak doesn’t play Mickey Mouse tournaments
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Novak not playing them doesn't make them irrelevant. The arrogance of some Djokovic fans.

Besides, Fed doesn't go out of his way to play Mickey Mouse events either. He plays evens he's always played.
 
He's getting slower and slower, and he doesn't even chase balls anymore... He's almost standing still...

He should back off,He's already won too much (y)
 
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