nadal_slam_king
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Agreed 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%.
Agreed 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%.
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Deleted member 77403
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I will agree that no one wanted Murray for the reason you stated. BUT, it was Davydenko who was carving up the opposition leading into the event. Beat Rafa three straight times, Del Potro, Djokovic, and Federer two straight times. The guy could not lose. Before the WTF, everyone said he did not have what it takes to win any big event, and by proving he could, albeit a three set event, it got everyone's attention, the next step was a slam. Call it what you want, no one wanted Davydenko either.
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Deleted member 77403
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Federer lost a set 3-6 to Rafa in the Final, without Rafa doing anything special, so I can't say I was stunned by Federer's form. And I think a match vs Murray, the most exhausting matchup Rafa can get on a hardcourt is a lot more difficult than the consistent several weeks of tennis that Federer played. In fact that's an understatement
Rafa was very agressive after losing that first set, at the start of the second. Sorry, but it was a tussle, until Roger broke free in the third.
So one match up is more exhausting than several weeks of intense matches, not to mention all the travelling? Okay. I guess that is fact then.
nadal_slam_king
Banned
Completely incorrect. One extremely difficult match vs Murray (for Rafa because their matches are always full of very long rallies) just before the Final destroys the legs.
Cyan
Hall of Fame
Denko is almost 30 and has never reached the final of a slam. He is a bigger threat at BO3 tournaments like Masters1000 and WTF. BO5 is not his thing.
dandelion_smiley
Banned
And who came up with all those lame excuses after the match? Nadal. Followed by the *********s such as yourself.
A loss in a loss, Nadal was simply outplayed. Washed off the court. His game fell into pieces when he realized that hitting to Federer's backhand wasn't going to win him the match.
End of story.
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
Why do you bother? It's Cyan and the usual band of *******s afterall.:mrgreen:
You have to beat the best to win it all. Having Murray or not, someone can still take Nadal out.
Keep in mind at the WTF, everyone said Roger's group was a nightmare(Murray, Soderling), but he still managed to win the Cup which was even more rewarding. Although no excuse had he lost.
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Deleted member 77403
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It is quite sad really. Jackson Ville is probably shaking his head at the Nards , as he eloquently calls them, right about now. Excuses, excuses, excuses. How about the guy was beaten fair and square?
You are right mandy01. Logic seems to be difficult to come by. Cyan talks about Roger needing a pathetic draw to win a slam....hmmmm, I guess the same can be true of Nadal then, by using Cyan's logic, as proven at the US Open this year also.
Totai
Professional
Federer lost a set 3-6 to Rafa in the Final, without Rafa doing anything special, so I can't say I was stunned by Federer's form. And I think a match vs Murray, the most exhausting matchup Rafa can get on a hardcourt is a lot more difficult than the consistent several weeks of tennis that Federer played. In fact that's an understatement
I am sure you would be stunned by Federer's form if you were the one across the net
And on a side note, you are making excuses, which I thought you didn't want to make according to your previous post, but please, do go on.
Talker
Hall of Fame
I would be surprised if Fed didn't make #1.
He's been steadily getting better since Toronto.
Right now he's playing the best tennis by a pretty good margin.
Though he's older he has the physical skills still and that won't drop off hardly at all in a year.
He's working with Annacone and resolving problem areas as far as I can see, it should continue.
He's been steadily getting better since Toronto.
Right now he's playing the best tennis by a pretty good margin.
Though he's older he has the physical skills still and that won't drop off hardly at all in a year.
He's working with Annacone and resolving problem areas as far as I can see, it should continue.
Eternally_damned
Banned
Federer will overtake #1 once again with a completely healthy nadal in peak form. Of course the ****s will claim he was injured but they will be delusional as per usual
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
I think we can all agree that players get rusty with prolonged time off, and many times that first tournament back they are not match tough. They also have to build up their endurance and the feeling of playing matches with nerves and adrenaline.
Conversely, a player can play all those weeks in a row and get weary, which didn't happen with Fed, so good on him.
Only one person is going to win, so, meh. It's time for the Oz in a few weeks. Moving forward.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
1) Fed needs a good showing at AO (2,000 points to defend). Nadal needs to do "poorly" (QF-360 points to defend).
2) After AO, Fed has 720 points at RG and Wimby. 745 at the Masters series during that same time.
3) After AO, Nadal has 4,000 points at RG and Wimby. 3,520 at the Masters series during that same time. He can only gain points at IW and Miami (Semis points). Everywhere else, he can only defend.
Fed could overtake Nadal after Wimby. Otherwise it won't happen this year.
2) After AO, Fed has 720 points at RG and Wimby. 745 at the Masters series during that same time.
3) After AO, Nadal has 4,000 points at RG and Wimby. 3,520 at the Masters series during that same time. He can only gain points at IW and Miami (Semis points). Everywhere else, he can only defend.
Fed could overtake Nadal after Wimby. Otherwise it won't happen this year.
Manus Domini
Hall of Fame
All Fed needs is 1 week and 1 day at #1 and he surpassed Pete
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
Yet most of your posts do read like you think you can read the future.
I did, and I explained clearly why I think he is unlikely to. Even if he is a better player he is extremely unlikely to have as good a year as 2010 - simply because of all the other players who're improving or coming back to form. He doesn't control enough of the factors (i.e. other players) to be the significant element in it.
As usual and as most here no doubt already know, you're just showing you can't read or reason to any useful level. The best thing you ever seem to come up with is: Ooooohhh, he got blood spinning! :lol::lol:
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Deleted member 77403
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Yes, I do agree.
However, my point is that you can't quantify exhaustion. If said poster can say one match took the wind out the sails of a player, then another can say several weeks of continuous matches also took the wind out of the sails of his opponent. But of course ****s, not fans will always say that their player was never at his best when he lost, after all they are a ****.
Moving on.
PrinceMoron
Legend
Blood spinning
I have my blood spun every month. It is no big deal.
You get a taste of lemon in your mouth as you get a citrus solution pumped in to stop the blood clotting, but you just sit there and drink loads of tea to mask the taste.
Not sure it does much for my tennis, but it sure helps kids with leukaemia and other cancers. As long as you have a high platelet count you too can help out.
If you don't have time to donate regularly, you can be a whole blood donor 3 times a year. What are you waiting for? All those who have posted up comments on players doping should join the line so they have first hand experience.
One platelet donation helps 3 adults or 12 kids. Think about it, and try to come up with one good reason why you shouldn't.
Oh and it does help my tennis as it boosts my immune system so I don't get colds.
I have my blood spun every month. It is no big deal.
You get a taste of lemon in your mouth as you get a citrus solution pumped in to stop the blood clotting, but you just sit there and drink loads of tea to mask the taste.
Not sure it does much for my tennis, but it sure helps kids with leukaemia and other cancers. As long as you have a high platelet count you too can help out.
If you don't have time to donate regularly, you can be a whole blood donor 3 times a year. What are you waiting for? All those who have posted up comments on players doping should join the line so they have first hand experience.
One platelet donation helps 3 adults or 12 kids. Think about it, and try to come up with one good reason why you shouldn't.
Oh and it does help my tennis as it boosts my immune system so I don't get colds.
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mental midget
Hall of Fame
someone mentioned he's been getting steadily better since toronto, i think that's true. his back is going to be a big factor, if that stays healthy, then i expect his form to remain good. then it comes down to scheduling-he's said he'd love the #1 ranking back, but i doubt he's willing to chase it at the expense of peaking for the majors, which are his priority. it's a toss-up, really. a healthy, schedule-smart federer is still a threat to win just about anything outside of clay matchups v. nadal, i would say he still has a slight advantage over rafa on grass as well.
what i'd love to see is a FO rematch v. nadal. he's likely to lose, but it's not like he can't play the guy on clay, tall order that it may be. if the serve is clicking, i think he could make it a competitive affair.
what i'd love to see is a FO rematch v. nadal. he's likely to lose, but it's not like he can't play the guy on clay, tall order that it may be. if the serve is clicking, i think he could make it a competitive affair.
Bud
Bionic Poster
You can do it, too! Simply pric.k yourself, quickly turn around in circles (at least 10) and then lick the wound
Bud
Bionic Poster
Was this the match that featured Federer's famous bathroom break??
We all KNOW that Murray will once again be in Rafa's side of the draw
Bud
Bionic Poster
In addition to Nadal crashing and burning, Federer will have to win a couple of MS1000 titles (IW and Miami) and a slam (in addition to defending the AO title) to even be in contention for regaining #1.
So, unless Federer wins the AO, USO and two MS1000 tournaments he probably won't do it. I can't see him winning Wimby or the FO with Rafa in the draw.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
I see where you're coming from, but it's the factors that changes things, imo.
Anyway, who cares? It's not like it's us. I don't get people arguing and getting angry over things that have no direct relation to their lives. I like tennis. I like Rafa, but at the end of the day I can only concern myself with the things that have a direct impact on my own life.
I keep it moving all the time.
Bud
Bionic Poster
How many other players on tour played a total of 81 matches (or more) in 2010 (not to mention winning 3 GS titles, 3 consecutive MS1000 titles, various other titles and appearances in a slew of finals)? It's very understandable how Rafa can be the most tired and worn out of all players.
Federer, in 2010, played 78 matches - winning 1 GS, 1 MS title, the WTF title and appearances in a few finals).
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IvanAndreevich
Legend
So basically 2 weeks :lol:
Bud
Bionic Poster
He needs a week to tie and 2 weeks to break the record.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Federer may well have a fair chance to even end next year as no.1, but my feeling is that Nadal is a slight favourite going into the AO and he may well manage the RG Wimbledon double again. If Federer achieves a better result than Nadal at the AO then i'll put his chances at about 50/50...
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Jchurch
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And you honestly don't think three weeks off would have been enough rest? Seriously, Nadal was beaten fair and square. Fatigue didn't play a significant part in the loss. Federer had played far more matches post USO than Nadal did. Nadal hadn't played for two plus weeks prior to the WTF.
nadal_slam_king
Banned
Of course Rafa was outplayed.....how else could he lose? That's obvious. Paranoid.
nadal_slam_king
Banned
You're kidding yourself, but nobody else. I've been hyping Federer up as the favorite for AO, constantly. I never claim to know that Rafa will win it, quite the opposite. And I constantly remind people that Murray is Rafa's worst nightmare, and a big part of Rafa's chances of winning 4 straight slams. As usual and as most here no doubt already know, you're just showing you can't read or reason to any useful level.
You said "I wont be shocked at all if he improves his game - but there is bordering on zero chance he will improve on his 2010 results in 2011."
By the sounds of that statement you will indeed be shocked lol, 'bordering on zero chance'....
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
Interesting.Fed says he was basically exhausted playing for so many weeks.But of course that dosen't count right?
Let's just go with the convenient narrative(convenient for Nadal and his ****s that is) -Federer was fresh as a daisy,while Nadal was extremely weary after taking three weeks off,getting enough matches at the WTF to shake his rust off by the finals and playing a tedious slugfest against Murray .
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mandy01
G.O.A.T.
Hey Senti,I'm good.Hope you're doing great too^^ Hey mandy, how is you ?
Hope you've enjoyed your rest and will be able to shake the rust off by Jan 17th
As for the bolded part-Depends.If I see more Serendipitoustardism here then it will be difficult,no? :evil: But I will try 200% to be 100% by then
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
I have no idea what Fed said because I don't follow him.
There is nothing wrong with my post, but as usual you've got your undies in a bunch.
Go away. I have no idea how you got off of ignore anyway, but it's getting corrected pronto!
Bye bye!
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
You have no idea yet you have no problem announcing his form and making convenient assumptions here.LOL.
"Go away"..LOL...And she talks of others getting their "undies in a twist" .Hilarious.
And if you're putting someone on ignore why do they need to know?Do I care? no.Does ANYONE care about being on YOUR ignore? no.But you have to make such announcements everytime you meet someone you know wont take your crap as if you're some VIP and people are going to fall all over themselves and beg you not to put them ignore.
Childish,lame, attention-seeking rubbish again :lol:
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meg0529
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hiya mandy! how you been?
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
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meg0529
Guest
I've been good
And you?
I've been good too! Took a break myself. Happy that the new season is starting. I anticipate some more breaks in my future. LOL. ****ism gets a bit much sometimes.
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
*sigh* true...Serendipitoustardism really gets too much sometimes :evil:
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
oh i love serendip. and that's the only quality i have. You'll just have to bear with it :twisted:I've been good
And you?
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
:shock::shock::evil:
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meg0529
Guest
*sigh* true...Serendipitoustardism really gets too much sometimes :evil:
I find him quite funny. Sometimes the cat pics are a bit much, but provide some comic relief!
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
pfffffff
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meg0529
Guest
pfffffff...I hope I wont have to add you to the long list of his ****s! :sad:
Probably not, I think he's a bit miffed after I asked him not to flood the Nadal thread with cat pics and the like. I feel like a jerk now
On topic - I think Fed will do it, if not this year then next. It's only a week!
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
Probably not, I think he's a bit miffed after I asked him not to flood the Nadal thread with cat pics and the like. I feel like a jerk now
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Deleted member 77403
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Remind me of Federer's stats in 04, 05, 06, and 07 - The guy still played very well through the WTF each of those years, winning three and was a few points from making it four. Funny how no one talked for exhaustion for him. Bottom line is, players have to cope, this is the elite of the sport. Federer and Nadal are no different. Both could claim to be tired, at the end, the better player won the match, plain and simple.
No need to make excuses.
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Deleted member 77403
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Ouch!!!!!!!!!
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