Will Sinner win a major in 24!?

pirhaksar

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Didn’t see this discussed before. I am bullish on Sinner breaking through this year after I saw his year ending stretch in 23. I believe he can win a major if he can execute on the following:
1. He needs to enhance his physical conditioning. He should not expend energy on avg players in week 1 aka this forums fave word mugs. He’s going to need that reserve if he runs into Raz or Djoker in week 2.
2. I think he is mentally well conditioned, saving match points and then winning against the Djoker ain’t easy by any means. I am sure he will choke from time to time as that’s just being human but he showed me a level I didn’t think he was capable of at the Davis Cup. Can he take that mindset to a major?
3. Second serve needs some more tactical nous
4. Patience - Talent wise he has the game on both flanks with great rally tolerance to out grind Djoker or Med

I think only a well playing Raz or Djoker can beat Sinner at his best. It’s upto him to take the positives from year end 23 into 24. If Djokovic loses early or doesn’t win, my second pick/fave is the Sinner. I have a soft corner for Med after AO 22 choke job but he will have to earn his place here.
 
I will compare him to slam finalists in last 5 years so 2019 to 2023 who aren't big 3.

2019 RG - Thiem is probably bigger threat than sinner is at RG. Thiem beat Djokovic
2019 USO - Medvedev beat Wawrinka in QF who was playing well and pushed Nadal to five. He had already won Cincy beating Djokovic and Rogers cup lost in finals to Nadal. Sinner is yet to reach that level.
2020 USO - Thiem is still a big player by then, made 2 more slam finals in a year and pushed Djokovic to five and Nadal to 4 in AO and RG respectively.
2020 USO - Zverev is ridiculous. Sinner today is already better than him.
2021 AO - Medvedev is close to Djokovic. He won Paris and atp finals a few months ago.
2021 RG - tsitsipas is probably better than sinner at rg. He pushed Djokovic to five in 2020 and beat Zverev in five here in semis and was 2-0 up vs Djokovic.
2021 Wimby - Berrettini is worse than sinner. If sinner today faced Djokovic then, he will do better.
2021 USO - Medvedev was already better. He had many slam finals and just won Rogers cup in this swing.
2022 AO - Medvedev was a slam champ and almost world number 1. He was no joke. Sinner yet to reach this level
2022 RG - Ruud is a chump. Sinner already better than him here. Results will not come easily but it's luck.
2022 Wimby - Kyrgios mag have higher level than sinner here but even he was lucky to not play any semis. Still sinner has to prove he can be better here first.
2022 USO - alcaraz level is probably where sinner is today so he can probably win a slam..
2022 USO - Ruud was surprisingly okay but he is still a chump in the final
2023 AO - tsitsipas level is probably where sinner is at today but he didn't even win a set.
2023 RG - Ruud is still a chump
2023 USO - Medvedev is still probably better than Sinner. He didn't do well post Rome so we can't say for sure though he has huge past laurels.

So in five years only these players are worse than current day sinner..
2020 USO Zverev
2021 Wimby Berrettini
2022 RG Ruud
2022 USO Ruud
2023 RG Ruud

And these are probably where sinner is at.
2023 AO tsitsipas
2022 USO Alcaraz
2022 Wimby Kyrgios
Only one of these won a slam.

These guys are flat out better than sinner today
2019 RG Thiem
2019 USO Medvedev
2020 AO Thiem
2020 USO Thiem
2021 AO Medvedev
2021 RG tsitsipas
2021 USO Medvedev
2022 AO Medvedev
2023 Wimby Alcaraz
2023 USO Medvedev

So in short sinner has to elevate his game further to win slams. Presently he might luck out a slam but still chances are he won't. But he is not the worst finalist in last 5 years as well.
 
I will compare him to slam finalists in last 5 years so 2019 to 2023 who aren't big 3.

2019 RG - Thiem is probably bigger threat than sinner is at RG. Thiem beat Djokovic
2019 USO - Medvedev beat Wawrinka in QF who was playing well and pushed Nadal to five. He had already won Cincy beating Djokovic and Rogers cup lost in finals to Nadal. Sinner is yet to reach that level.
2020 USO - Thiem is still a big player by then, made 2 more slam finals in a year and pushed Djokovic to five and Nadal to 4 in AO and RG respectively.
2020 USO - Zverev is ridiculous. Sinner today is already better than him.
2021 AO - Medvedev is close to Djokovic. He won Paris and atp finals a few months ago.
2021 RG - tsitsipas is probably better than sinner at rg. He pushed Djokovic to five in 2020 and beat Zverev in five here in semis and was 2-0 up vs Djokovic.
2021 Wimby - Berrettini is worse than sinner. If sinner today faced Djokovic then, he will do better.
2021 USO - Medvedev was already better. He had many slam finals and just won Rogers cup in this swing.
2022 AO - Medvedev was a slam champ and almost world number 1. He was no joke. Sinner yet to reach this level
2022 RG - Ruud is a chump. Sinner already better than him here. Results will not come easily but it's luck.
2022 Wimby - Kyrgios mag have higher level than sinner here but even he was lucky to not play any semis. Still sinner has to prove he can be better here first.
2022 USO - alcaraz level is probably where sinner is today so he can probably win a slam..
2022 USO - Ruud was surprisingly okay but he is still a chump in the final
2023 AO - tsitsipas level is probably where sinner is at today but he didn't even win a set.
2023 RG - Ruud is still a chump
2023 USO - Medvedev is still probably better than Sinner. He didn't do well post Rome so we can't say for sure though he has huge past laurels.

So in five years only these players are worse than current day sinner..
2020 USO Zverev
2021 Wimby Berrettini
2022 RG Ruud
2022 USO Ruud
2023 RG Ruud

And these are probably where sinner is at.
2023 AO tsitsipas
2022 USO Alcaraz

2022 Wimby Kyrgios
Only one of these won a slam.

These guys are flat out better than sinner today
2019 RG Thiem
2019 USO Medvedev
2020 AO Thiem
2020 USO Thiem
2021 AO Medvedev
2021 RG tsitsipas
2021 USO Medvedev
2022 AO Medvedev
2023 Wimby Alcaraz
2023 USO Medvedev

So in short sinner has to elevate his game further to win slams. Presently he might luck out a slam but still chances are he won't. But he is not the worst finalist in last 5 years as well.
Sinner had 26 break points against Tsitsipas in their fourth round match and Sinner lost in 5 then. Imagine if current Sinner was to play Tsitsipas now. Sinner would win in straight sets or max 4 sets. He’s above 2023 AO Tsitsipas

Sinner had a match point and was not even serving well against Alcaraz and Sinner has a much improved serve now. Sinner year end 2023 would defeat Alcaraz in max 4 sets
 
I will compare him to slam finalists in last 5 years so 2019 to 2023 who aren't big 3.

2019 RG - Thiem is probably bigger threat than sinner is at RG. Thiem beat Djokovic
2019 USO - Medvedev beat Wawrinka in QF who was playing well and pushed Nadal to five. He had already won Cincy beating Djokovic and Rogers cup lost in finals to Nadal. Sinner is yet to reach that level.
2020 USO - Thiem is still a big player by then, made 2 more slam finals in a year and pushed Djokovic to five and Nadal to 4 in AO and RG respectively.
2020 USO - Zverev is ridiculous. Sinner today is already better than him.
2021 AO - Medvedev is close to Djokovic. He won Paris and atp finals a few months ago.
2021 RG - tsitsipas is probably better than sinner at rg. He pushed Djokovic to five in 2020 and beat Zverev in five here in semis and was 2-0 up vs Djokovic.
2021 Wimby - Berrettini is worse than sinner. If sinner today faced Djokovic then, he will do better.
2021 USO - Medvedev was already better. He had many slam finals and just won Rogers cup in this swing.
2022 AO - Medvedev was a slam champ and almost world number 1. He was no joke. Sinner yet to reach this level
2022 RG - Ruud is a chump. Sinner already better than him here. Results will not come easily but it's luck.
2022 Wimby - Kyrgios mag have higher level than sinner here but even he was lucky to not play any semis. Still sinner has to prove he can be better here first.
2022 USO - alcaraz level is probably where sinner is today so he can probably win a slam..
2022 USO - Ruud was surprisingly okay but he is still a chump in the final
2023 AO - tsitsipas level is probably where sinner is at today but he didn't even win a set.
2023 RG - Ruud is still a chump
2023 USO - Medvedev is still probably better than Sinner. He didn't do well post Rome so we can't say for sure though he has huge past laurels.

So in five years only these players are worse than current day sinner..
2020 USO Zverev
2021 Wimby Berrettini
2022 RG Ruud
2022 USO Ruud
2023 RG Ruud

And these are probably where sinner is at.
2023 AO tsitsipas
2022 USO Alcaraz
2022 Wimby Kyrgios
Only one of these won a slam.

These guys are flat out better than sinner today
2019 RG Thiem
2019 USO Medvedev
2020 AO Thiem
2020 USO Thiem
2021 AO Medvedev
2021 RG tsitsipas
2021 USO Medvedev
2022 AO Medvedev
2023 Wimby Alcaraz
2023 USO Medvedev

So in short sinner has to elevate his game further to win slams. Presently he might luck out a slam but still chances are he won't. But he is not the worst finalist in last 5 years as well.
I think some of this is valid but Sinner has progressed massively in the back half of last year. I don’t know if it’s Cahill or it’s just natural progression. I remain skeptical of his physical conditioning. He has all the signs of pre gluten Djoker right now! Can he figure that piece out? I believe he can hang with both Raz and Djoker game wise but can he outlast them over 5 sets back to back!?
 
Sinner hasn't reached Medvedev level even. He is better than Medvedev today but that's when Medvedev is figured out by many players. Back in 2019/2021 he was a big question mark, why is this guy winning so much.

Sinner has definitely not reached the peak that Thiem reached. Thiem was a physical specimen. He pushed Djokovic around in slams. Beat Djokovic Nadal Medvedev in statement wins. RG 2019 over Djokovic, AO 20 over Nadal and USO 20 over Medvedev.

Sinner probably hasn't reached the peak tsitsipas even reached in RG. Tsitsipas was beating everyone in 2020/2021 on clay before his career started fizzling out. He recorded win over Nadal in Madrid.

Sinner is worse than what Alcaraz showed in 2023 Wimbledon. Alcaraz looked like the man in the tournanent and in the final after set 1, he was better player.

Sinner has won 1 masters title, no ATP finals title, no slam finals, barely 1 slam semifinals. He had major victories in past few months but those are Daveydenko like wins. Now is the new year and new challenge.
 
I think some of this is valid but Sinner has progressed massively in the back half of last year. I don’t know if it’s Cahill or it’s just natural progression. I remain skeptical of his physical conditioning. He has all the signs of pre gluten Djoker right now! Can he figure that piece out? I believe he can hang with both Raz and Djoker game wise but can he outlast them over 5 sets back to back!?
Sampras-Brugera?
 
Sinner hasn't reached Medvedev level even. He is better than Medvedev today but that's when Medvedev is figured out by many players. Back in 2019/2021 he was a big question mark, why is this guy winning so much.

Sinner has definitely not reached the peak that Thiem reached. Thiem was a physical specimen. He pushed Djokovic around in slams. Beat Djokovic Nadal Medvedev in statement wins. RG 2019 over Djokovic, AO 20 over Nadal and USO 20 over Medvedev.

Sinner probably hasn't reached the peak tsitsipas even reached in RG. Tsitsipas was beating everyone in 2020/2021 on clay before his career started fizzling out. He recorded win over Nadal in Madrid.

Sinner is worse than what Alcaraz showed in 2023 Wimbledon. Alcaraz looked like the man in the tournanent and in the final after set 1, he was better player.

Sinner has won 1 masters title, no ATP finals title, no slam finals, barely 1 slam semifinals. He had major victories in past few months but those are Daveydenko like wins. Now is the new year and new challenge.
Sinner 2024 would easily beat Tsitsipas 2023
 
@nolefam_2024 Sinner is at 81% win rate. Imagine his 2024 season. I bet it’s comfortably over 80%. That’s higher than what Zverev or Tsitsipas has ever achieved. Medvedev’s best season was 2021 where he was 83%. Sinner will easily surpass that
 
Sinner 2024 would easily beat Tsitsipas 2023
Now if I had time machine we will see. Because that would need a past tsitsipas to play a future sinner.

Even you don't know how 2024 sinner will play. He has had zero matches till now.

There is this belief that he is now a changed man after ATP finals last year but it's just a belief right now. It will be tested when sinner plays in 2024. As for his exploits last year, Daveydenko had similar ones in 2009. But Davey never even reached a slam final.
 
Now if I had time machine we will see. Because that would need a past tsitsipas to play a future sinner.

Even you don't know how 2024 sinner will play. He has had zero matches till now.

There is this belief that he is now a changed man after ATP finals last year but it's just a belief right now. It will be tested when sinner plays in 2024. As for his exploits last year, Daveydenko had similar ones in 2009. But Davey never even reached a slam final.
Sinner is the best 22 year old Since Roger and Novak. Those 2 have had over 80% win rate. Sinner is improving a lot. Zverev needed 24 years to reach 80% win rate. I’m sure when Sinner is 24 he’ll be close to 90% if not higher
 
Sinner is the best 22 year old Since Roger and Novak. Those 2 have had over 80% win rate. Sinner is improving a lot. Zverev needed 24 years to reach 80% win rate. I’m sure when Sinner is 24 he’ll be close to 90% if not higher

Son,Sinner has improved drastically and with an improved serve and fitness he will be a monster everyone will fear.
 
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@nolefam_2024 Sinner is at 81% win rate. Imagine his 2024 season. I bet it’s comfortably over 80%. That’s higher than what Zverev or Tsitsipas has ever achieved. Medvedev’s best season was 2021 where he was 83%. Sinner will easily surpass that
Sinner is better than Zverev flat out and also better than tsitsipas on hc. But tsitsipas made 1 more slam final in clay courts. Tsitsipas was winning 82 % clay matches in 2022. He pushed Nadal to 4 hrs and almost beat Djokovic in RG finals. That's super high level.

Sinner is still a rookie in this department. We will see in future. But in last 5 years Nadal played in many slams and Nadal is gone now, Djokovic played in many slams but Djokovic won't be there for each slam. So when these two legends are gone, sinner will definitely have a lot of success provided he keeps improving.

Otherwise Alcaraz is getting better faster and is younger.
 
Sinner is better than Zverev flat out and also better than tsitsipas on hc. But tsitsipas made 1 more slam final in clay courts. Tsitsipas was winning 82 % clay matches in 2022. He pushed Nadal to 4 hrs and almost beat Djokovic in RG finals. That's super high level.

Sinner is still a rookie in this department. We will see in future. But in last 5 years Nadal played in many slams and Nadal is gone now, Djokovic played in many slams but Djokovic won't be there for each slam. So when these two legends are gone, sinner will definitely have a lot of success provided he keeps improving.

Otherwise Alcaraz is getting better faster and is younger.
This isn’t true LOL. Sinner is improving more and has more room for improvement. If sinner achieves90% service holds this season, I doubt Alcaraz will beat Sinner. Sinner already has a better return and backhand and is vastly superior on hard court. His new serve will be deadly on grass. Mark my words he’ll defeat Alcaraz at every major except for perhaps RG
 
Sinner is the best 22 year old Since Roger and Novak. Those 2 have had over 80% win rate. Sinner is improving a lot. Zverev needed 24 years to reach 80% win rate. I’m sure when Sinner is 24 he’ll be close to 90% if not higher
Best 22 year old since Roger and Novak? What is this cumulative or at a certain point. Because Nole during his 22nd year was pretty bad. But sinner not able to push even that boundary.

And what about Nadal at 22 who won RG and Wimby back to back, Olympics, AO. Made another semis in USO. Was he not as good as sinner today.

And what about alcaraz who is not even 22 but has won more big titles than sinner has made finals in?
 
Best chance will be at USO as he still need to develop the mental armor to cross the finish line on the biggest stage possible on tennis.

Outside that he also needs to prove he is over his injury woes considering his traditional build.

All things considered there is no doubt that Sinner has the weapons to do great thing in tennis with his relentless heavy baseline style.
 
Best chance will be at USO as he still need to develop the mental armor to cross the finish line on the biggest stage possible on tennis.

Outside that he also needs to prove he is over his injury woes considering his traditional build.

All things considered there is no doubt that Sinner has the weapons to do great thing in tennis with his relentless heavy baseline style.
USO sounds great because it's very far. And that means more time for sinner to develop or for fans to push goalposts. It's already high time now that this guy is 22 complete and not made a slam final.

Also USO sounds great because it had many 1 slam champs like Thiem Cilic Medvedev Delpo etc.

I think sinner has modest chance at AO, virtually no chance at rg then better chance at Wimby and finally no one knows about USO. It's soo far away and with Olympics year there will be many injuries. Someone can even vulture it. 2012 Murray won, fedal were absent. 2016 Wawrinka won, fedal were absent, Murray tired and Djokovic slightly beat up. 2021 Medvedev won, Nadal was absent, Thiem injured, Djokovic was slightly beat up.
 
Best 22 year old since Roger and Novak? What is this cumulative or at a certain point. Because Nole during his 22nd year was pretty bad. But sinner not able to push even that boundary.

And what about Nadal at 22 who won RG and Wimby back to back, Olympics, AO. Made another semis in USO. Was he not as good as sinner today.

And what about alcaraz who is not even 22 but has won more big titles than sinner has made finals in?
Nadal is a prodigy and early blooomer. Sinners body type is a late bloomer. By age 24 we’ll see the real Sinner. I’m sure he’ll reach the number one ranking by then
 
After USO sinner went 20-2 to push himself above 80%. Before USO he was 46-17 or something which is just 73%.

In slams when it mattered sinner lost in R16 or something to Tsitsipas, Altmaier in r32 and Zverev in R16.

His stock is hugely dependent on his post USO exploits..
 
After USO sinner went 20-2 to push himself about 80%. Before USO he was 46-17 or something which is just 73%.

In slams when it mattered sinner lost in R16 or something to Tsitsipas, Altmaier in r32 and Zverev in R16.

His stock is hugely dependent on his post USO exploits..
Guess what though. Tsitsipas has never beaten ten top five players. Imagine how many top fives Sinner will beat next year? He’s only getting stronger under Cahill. Same for Zverev and Medvedev. Medvedev fears Sinner now
 
After USO sinner went 20-2 to push himself above 80%. Before USO he was 46-17 or something which is just 73%.

In slams when it mattered sinner lost in R16 or something to Tsitsipas, Altmaier in r32 and Zverev in R16.

His stock is hugely dependent on his post USO exploits..
The Altmaier loss was inexcusable. The Tsitsipas loss he choked, the Zverev loss I think his body failed him. 2024 will show us where he’s at
 
@nolefam_2024 Sinner was the better player in that Round of 16 match against Tsitsipas. Look on the statistics if you have time. He was for sure the better player in the first four sets
 
Guess what though. Tsitsipas has never beaten ten top five players. Imagine how many top fives Sinner will beat next year? He’s only getting stronger under Cahill. Same for Zverev and Medvedev. Medvedev fears Sinner now
And yet tsitsipas has zero slams.

Sinner shouldn't be compared with tsitsipas and Zverev. The absolute minimum comparison is vs Medvedev who is past world number 1 and slam champion.
 
After USO sinner went 20-2 to push himself above 80%. Before USO he was 46-17 or something which is just 73%.

In slams when it mattered sinner lost in R16 or something to Tsitsipas, Altmaier in r32 and Zverev in R16.

His stock is hugely dependent on his post USO exploits..
That’s correct but that’s how predictions work right based on more recent performances and what those show/tell you? Are you saying he has not shown improvements that are worthy enough to win a slam? If no why? I think beating a motivated and healthy Djokovic is a huge step up, that Davis Cup performance has persuaded me. I hope he can take that into 24…again notice I am not saying he will absolutely crush it or win them all. I have no way of knowing that!
 
He says he is from India but he doesn't understand a line of hindi.
Why are you guys micro analyzing me!? LOL. This place is hilarious jeez. I am Indian by birth moved here to the US 2 decades back when Sachin was still the guy (remains my guy) and just before Fed went bonkers ruining my Pete memories. I don’t like cricket as much these days to Tfcking20 and do follow tennis now mostly rooting for Djokovic.
 
That’s correct but that’s how predictions work right based on more recent performances and what those show/tell you? Are you saying he has not shown improvements that are worthy enough to win a slam? If no why? I think beating a motivated and healthy Djokovic is a huge step up, that Davis Cup performance has persuaded me. I hope he can take that into 24…again notice I am not saying he will absolutely crush it or win them all. I have no way of knowing that!
The conditions allowed his improved serve to work. The indoors. But now we are not going indoors until October again. He will face wind and heat. And his serve will suffer a bit which would drastically change the dynamic.

In USOpen he was physically wilting vs Sascha Zverev. Last year he withdrew from at least 3/4 tournaments because of health issues.

I think mentally he is ready. He doesn't take a lot of pressure to win. But gamewise he is still limited, if you see how Djokovic was able to turn tables on him in ATP finals. It was a 3 3 win.
 
The conditions allowed his improved serve to work. The indoors. But now we are not going indoors until October again. He will face wind and heat. And his serve will suffer a bit which would drastically change the dynamic.

In USOpen he was physically wilting vs Sascha Zverev. Last year he withdrew from at least 3/4 tournaments because of health issues.

I think mentally he is ready. He doesn't take a lot of pressure to win. But gamewise he is still limited, if you see how Djokovic was able to turn tables on him in ATP finals. It was a 3 3 win.
I acknowledged the physical aspects, I am skeptical too. Let’s see, if you like a player it’s good to have hopes. The Rafa fans were very optimistic as well for his comeback - nothing wrong with that.
 
I acknowledged the physical aspects, I am skeptical too. Let’s see, if you like a player it’s good to have hopes. The Rafa fans were very optimistic as well for his comeback - nothing wrong with that.
There is still chance he wins a slam at this level. I think he is as good a finalist as Alcaraz in USO 22, Tsitsipas in RG 21 and Kyrgios in Wimbledon 22.

But the sinner fans are acting like he is bigger deal than he currently is.
 
Why are you guys micro analyzing me!? LOL. This place is hilarious jeez. I am Indian by birth moved here to the US 2 decades back when Sachin was still the guy (remains my guy) and just before Fed went bonkers ruining my Pete memories. I don’t like cricket as much these days to Tfcking20 and do follow tennis now mostly rooting for Djokovic.

Who are your favourite 5 cricketers from the Sachin era ? Who are your fav bowlers of the 1990s ? Who is your fav captain among Azharuddin, Ganguly & Dhoni ? Who is your fav captain among Mark Taylor, Steve Waugh & Ricky Ponting ? Your fav players from the 1990s Sri Lankan Team? Who was the top 2 fastest bowlers in the world in the 1990s before Shoaib Akhtar arrived? Since you are from Pete's era & Sachin is your guy (this means you followed cricket back then please answer these questions brother :X3:
 
Who are your favourite 5 cricketers from the Sachin era ? Who are your fav bowlers of the 1990s ? Who is your fav captain among Azharuddin, Ganguly & Dhoni ? Who is your fav captain among Mark Taylor, Steve Waugh & Ricky Ponting ? Your fav players from the 1990s Sri Lankan Team? Who was the top 2 fastest bowlers in the world in the 1990s before Shoaib Akhtar arrived? Since you are from Pete's era & Sachin is your guy (this means you followed cricket back then please answer these questions brother :X3:
Wtf is this. Ok I will play.
1. Sachin, Steve Waugh, Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose, Alan Donald, Dravid, VVS and Veeru Sehwag (recognize they are later)
2. Above 3 plus Warne and Waqar - consider Wasim as my Goat loathe McGrath and Ponting
3. Dada is the Goat Indian captain sorry MSD or Kohli fanbois
4. Ain’t no greater captain of men than Steve Waugh
5. Jaya and little Kalu
6. I’d think Waqar and Donald
 
I can speak and write Hindi dude. I am not Sampras-Bruguera. Should I show my passport LOL.

Nahi bhai, mujhe aapki passport nahi dekhni. Bas aap hindi mein sau shabd ka anuched likh do, wahi kaafi hai. Mai padh ke samaj lunga ki aap hindi jaante ho.
 
I am still unsure between alcaraz sinner and rune

Rune has won Paris masters but regressed in 2023.
Sinner has taken long time to reach here but is firmly top 4 now.

Would Rune have what it takes to reach top 4 this year. I am very much inclined to say NO.

While alcaraz was beaten by sinner in Miami and Beijing I think. Is that going to be a pattern or alcaraz can overturn it.

Sinner will definitely be a slam winner without injury but how high he will go once Djokovic declines depends on how much ahead of the field he will be.
 
Nahi bhai, mujhe aapki passport nahi dekhni. Bas aap hindi mein sau shabd ka anuched likh do, wahi kaafi hai. Mai padh ke samaj lunga ki aap hindi jaante ho.
lol itna samai nahi hei bhai. Abhi idhar day time hei…meetings mein hoon, bakwaaas discussion chal raha hei. Isliye TTW pe time pass kar raha hoon
 
lol itna samai nahi hei bhai. Abhi idhar day time hei…meetings mein hoon, bakwaaas discussion challenge raha hei. Site TTW pe time pass kar raha hoon
Wtf is this. Ok I will play.
1. Sachin, Steve Waugh, Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose, Alan Donald, Dravid, VVS and Veeru Sehwag (recognize they are later)
2. Above 3 plus Warne and Waqar - consider Wasim as my Goat loathe McGrath and Ponting
3. Dada is the Goat Indian captain sorry MSD or Kohli fanbois
4. Ain’t no greater captain of men than Steve Waugh
5. Jaya and little Kalu
6. I’d think Waqar and Donald

Ok cool.
Good to know that you are a cricket fan. Waqar and Donald indeed were the fastest bowlers of the 1990s until Mr Akhtar came along and broke all records. Mark taylor was a better captain than Waugh by the way.
 
Wtf is this. Ok I will play.
1. Sachin, Steve Waugh, Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose, Alan Donald, Dravid, VVS and Veeru Sehwag (recognize they are later)
2. Above 3 plus Warne and Waqar - consider Wasim as my Goat loathe McGrath and Ponting
3. Dada is the Goat Indian captain sorry MSD or Kohli fanbois
4. Ain’t no greater captain of men than Steve Waugh
5. Jaya and little Kalu
6. I’d think Waqar and Donald
I also love me Arjuna and Aravinda. I do think De Silva is much better than Mahela or Sanga. Also in Pak I loved Anwar and Youhana both so elegant and classy although Inzi gets the higher billing.
 
Ok cool.
Good to know that you are a cricket fan and also from India. Waqar and Donald indeed were the fastest bowlers of the 1990s until Mr Akhtar came along and broke all records. Mark taylor was a better captain than Waugh by the way.
Perhaps but I love Steve Waugh, he was my guy. Ditto Dada, he instilled that spunk dna in the Indian squad not to mention grooming Yuvi (another fave of mine), Bajji, Zack and not to mention the sher Veeru
 
I will compare him to slam finalists in last 5 years so 2019 to 2023 who aren't big 3.

2019 RG - Thiem is probably bigger threat than sinner is at RG. Thiem beat Djokovic
2019 USO - Medvedev beat Wawrinka in QF who was playing well and pushed Nadal to five. He had already won Cincy beating Djokovic and Rogers cup lost in finals to Nadal. Sinner is yet to reach that level.
2020 USO - Thiem is still a big player by then, made 2 more slam finals in a year and pushed Djokovic to five and Nadal to 4 in AO and RG respectively.
2020 USO - Zverev is ridiculous. Sinner today is already better than him.
2021 AO - Medvedev is close to Djokovic. He won Paris and atp finals a few months ago.
2021 RG - tsitsipas is probably better than sinner at rg. He pushed Djokovic to five in 2020 and beat Zverev in five here in semis and was 2-0 up vs Djokovic.
2021 Wimby - Berrettini is worse than sinner. If sinner today faced Djokovic then, he will do better.
2021 USO - Medvedev was already better. He had many slam finals and just won Rogers cup in this swing.
2022 AO - Medvedev was a slam champ and almost world number 1. He was no joke. Sinner yet to reach this level
2022 RG - Ruud is a chump. Sinner already better than him here. Results will not come easily but it's luck.
2022 Wimby - Kyrgios mag have higher level than sinner here but even he was lucky to not play any semis. Still sinner has to prove he can be better here first.
2022 USO - alcaraz level is probably where sinner is today so he can probably win a slam..
2022 USO - Ruud was surprisingly okay but he is still a chump in the final
2023 AO - tsitsipas level is probably where sinner is at today but he didn't even win a set.
2023 RG - Ruud is still a chump
2023 USO - Medvedev is still probably better than Sinner. He didn't do well post Rome so we can't say for sure though he has huge past laurels.

So in five years only these players are worse than current day sinner..
2020 USO Zverev
2021 Wimby Berrettini
2022 RG Ruud
2022 USO Ruud
2023 RG Ruud

And these are probably where sinner is at.
2023 AO tsitsipas
2022 USO Alcaraz
2022 Wimby Kyrgios
Only one of these won a slam.

These guys are flat out better than sinner today
2019 RG Thiem
2019 USO Medvedev
2020 AO Thiem
2020 USO Thiem
2021 AO Medvedev
2021 RG tsitsipas
2021 USO Medvedev
2022 AO Medvedev
2023 Wimby Alcaraz
2023 USO Medvedev

So in short sinner has to elevate his game further to win slams. Presently he might luck out a slam but still chances are he won't. But he is not the worst finalist in last 5 years as well.
Only problem with this analysis is that there will not be any Djokovic in the draws under age 37. Some lucky dog’s gotta win some of these.
 
I also love me Arjuna and Aravinda. I do think De Silva is much better than Mahela or Sanga. Also in Pak I loved Anwar and Youhana both so elegant and classy although Inzi gets the higher billing.

De Silva was a very powerful batsman, he is still rated by Sangakkara and Jayawardene as the best Sri Lankan Batman of all time and he was their role model. In the 1996 world cup De Silva singlehandedly stopped Australia (the favourites) from winning the world cup in the final, the way he batted on that pitch nobody could have batted. I have very faint memories of watching cricket back then, didnt undestand what was going on as I was too young.

Ranatunga was a very powerful leader .... he stood firm when Aussie umpire no balled Murali and banned him.... Ranatunga backed his player like nobody else would.... Iron Willed Leader.
 
This isn’t true LOL. Sinner is improving more and has more room for improvement. If sinner achieves90% service holds this season, I doubt Alcaraz will beat Sinner. Sinner already has a better return and backhand and is vastly superior on hard court. His new serve will be deadly on grass. Mark my words he’ll defeat Alcaraz at every major except for perhaps RG
"vastly superior" on hard? The guy with one Masters title where he didn't even face a top 10 player? Who's never made it past the quarterfinals of a hard court major?

I'm happy and impressed with the progress he made in the fall, but form is temporary. We've yet to see if that's the new baseline for Sinner or if it was at the upper bound of what he's capable of. I think it's closer to the former than the latter, but even if that's the case, he's hardly "vastly superior" to one of the other top hard court players in the world.
 
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