Will someone sum all carrier slam points for BIG 4?

mossi

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Will someone sum all carrier slam points for BIG 4?

Federer xxxx
Nadal xxxx
Novak xxxx
Murray xxxx
 

Krish872007

G.O.A.T.
Federer - 56,395
Nadal - 40,700
Djokovic - 35,790
Murray - 20,995

Adjusted for modern ranking points (Slams only - across career so far)
 

pame

Hall of Fame
^^ I see krish872007 provided the numbers. Just thought I'd add this (courtesy of a friend), which should give some idea where they stand in relation to other major slam winners.

Added note: Open Era only
Top 30 overall:
Code:
1	Roger Federer		56395
2	Rafael Nadal		40700
3	Jimmy Connors		40435
4	Pete Sampras		40385
5	Ivan Lendl		39845
6	Andre Agassi		37675
7	Novak Djokovic		35790
8	Björn Borg		30925
9	John McEnroe		28760
10	Stefan Edberg		28525
11	Boris Becker		26525
12	Mats Wilander		25025
13	Andy Murray		20995
14	Guillermo Vilas		20540
15	Ken Rosewall		18155
16	Jim Courier		17980
17	John Newcombe		17830
18	Lleyton Hewitt		15875
19	Arthur Ashe		15845
20	Andy Roddick		15690
21	Michael Chang		13190
22	Rod Laver		12775
23	Goran Ivanisevic	12535
24	Ilie Nastase		12480
25	Jan Kodes		12360
26	Marat Safin		11735
27	Yevgeny Kafelnikov	11665
28	David Ferrer		11465
29	Stan Smith		11445
30	Vitas Gerulaitis	10890
PS. What on earth is the code for posting this as a proper list? I tried
  • - for all the good that did grrrr (Solved it! :D)
 
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KG1965

Legend
^^ I see krish872007 provided the numbers. Just thought I'd add this (courtesy of a friend), which should give some idea where they stand in relation to other major slam winners.

Top 30 overall:

  • 1 Roger Federer 56395
    2 Rafael Nadal 40700
    3 Jimmy Connors 40435
    4 Pete Sampras 40385
    5 Ivan Lendl 39845
    6 Andre Agassi 37675
    7 Novak Djokovic 35790
    8 Björn Borg 30925
    9 John McEnroe 28760
    10 Stefan Edberg 28525
    11 Boris Becker 26525
    12 Mats Wilander 25025
    13 Andy Murray 20995
    14 Guillermo Vilas 20540
    15 Ken Rosewall 18155
    16 Jim Courier 17980
    17 John Newcombe 17830
    18 Lleyton Hewitt 15875
    19 Arthur Ashe 15845
    20 Andy Roddick 15690
    21 Michael Chang 13190
    22 Rod Laver 12775
    23 Goran Ivanisevic 12535
    24 Ilie Nastase 12480
    25 Jan Kodes 12360
    26 Marat Safin 11735
    27 Yevgeny Kafelnikov 11665
    28 David Ferrer 11465
    29 Stan Smith 11445
    30 Vitas Gerulaitis 10890

PS. What on earth is the code for posting this as a proper list? I tried
  • - for all the good that did grrrr


  • Try adding the 15 majors missing Connors, and Borg 7 .
 

pame

Hall of Fame
Try adding the 15 majors missing Connors, and Borg 7 .
Please explain. As far as I know, the records are complete, but if you think there's an error, could you be more specific, so I can get it checked.

I take it you are not referring to the slams they skipped, since it would be impossible to tabulate what points they might or might not have accumulated in a slam they didn't play
 
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GabeT

Legend
^^ I see krish872007 provided the numbers. Just thought I'd add this (courtesy of a friend), which should give some idea where they stand in relation to other major slam winners.

Added note: Open Era only

Top 30 overall:

  • 1 Roger Federer 56395
    2 Rafael Nadal 40700
    3 Jimmy Connors 40435
    4 Pete Sampras 40385
    5 Ivan Lendl 39845
    6 Andre Agassi 37675
    7 Novak Djokovic 35790
    8 Björn Borg 30925
    9 John McEnroe 28760
    10 Stefan Edberg 28525
    11 Boris Becker 26525
    12 Mats Wilander 25025
    13 Andy Murray 20995
    14 Guillermo Vilas 20540
    15 Ken Rosewall 18155
    16 Jim Courier 17980
    17 John Newcombe 17830
    18 Lleyton Hewitt 15875
    19 Arthur Ashe 15845
    20 Andy Roddick 15690
    21 Michael Chang 13190
    22 Rod Laver 12775
    23 Goran Ivanisevic 12535
    24 Ilie Nastase 12480
    25 Jan Kodes 12360
    26 Marat Safin 11735
    27 Yevgeny Kafelnikov 11665
    28 David Ferrer 11465
    29 Stan Smith 11445
    30 Vitas Gerulaitis 10890

PS. What on earth is the code for posting this as a proper list? I tried
  • - for all the good that did grrrr


  • Cool, thanks. Do you know if we have a similar list for number of Slams in which each player participated? Was wondering if we could calculate average points per slam for the top players.
 

Krish872007

G.O.A.T.
Re: GabeT's post:

That would be very interesting to look at. In fact, we could highlight something further: we could look at average points per Slam for a player over their Slam contending/winning years.

For instance, let's take Federer:

Federer's overall: 64 Slams participated in, so his overall point average is 56395/64 = 881.2.
Interpretation: if you took a Federer and stuck him in a Slam event at random, chances are that he would either make the semis or the Final - without taking any other factor into account.

The time between his first and last Slam to date is 2003-2012. Full years inclusive = 40 Slams in total
Accrued points in this period: 49,970
So this average is = 1249.25, indicating a high level of consistency (i.e. he would almost be "expected" to make the finals of a Slam at least every time). Comparing this number to the 881.2 also reveals that he achieved a concentrated form of dominance.
 

GabeT

Legend
Re: GabeT's post:

That would be very interesting to look at. In fact, we could highlight something further: we could look at average points per Slam for a player over their Slam contending/winning years.

For instance, let's take Federer:

Federer's overall: 64 Slams participated in, so his overall point average is 56395/64 = 881.2.
Interpretation: if you took a Federer and stuck him in a Slam event at random, chances are that he would either make the semis or the Final - without taking any other factor into account.

The time between his first and last Slam to date is 2003-2012. Full years inclusive = 40 Slams in total
Accrued points in this period: 49,970
So this average is = 1249.25, indicating a high level of consistency (i.e. he would almost be "expected" to make the finals of a Slam at least every time). Comparing this number to the 881.2 also reveals that he achieved a concentrated form of dominance.
Hmm... Nice. Where do you get this data? I wonder if I can play around with it in Excel.
 

Krish872007

G.O.A.T.
Hmm... Nice. Where do you get this data? I wonder if I can play around with it in Excel.
For the active players, wikipedia and ATP player profiles are the most convenient sources - they should have their Slam performance timeline somewhere on the page
 

pame

Hall of Fame
If you hang on, I'll see if I can get my friend to look in. I was just trying to help out the OP, but I'm a words person, not a numbers head.. lol

Edit: He's offline but I left a message. In the meantime, he had given me permission to post these stats he had compiled if I wanted to.
Top 30 Australian Open:
Code:
1	Roger Federer		14150
2	Novak Djokovic		11280
3	Stefan Edberg		10750
4	Andre Agassi		10160
5	Ivan Lendl		9335
6	Mats Wilander		8345
7	Pete Sampras		7640
8	Rafael Nadal		6830
9	John Newcombe		6820
10	Andy Murray		6260
11	Ken Rosewall		6250
12	Guillermo Vilas		6010
13	Jim Courier		5945
14	Johan Kriek		5495
15	Boris Becker		5245
16	Marat Safin		4995
17	Yevgeny Kafelnikov	4415
18	Arthur Ashe		4280
19	Andy Roddick		4140
20	Mark Edmondson		3830
21	Stanislas Wawrinka	3710
22	Pat Cash		3645
23	John Alexander		3425
24	Richard Crealy		3370
25	David Ferrer		3260
26	Tomas Berdych		3205
27	Jimmy Connors		3200
28	Wayne Ferreira		3195
29	Tony Roche		3170
30	Jo-Wilfried Tsonga	3100
Top 30 French Open:
Code:
1	Rafael Nadal		18540
2	Björn Borg		12540
3	Roger Federer		10160
4	Ivan Lendl		9825
5	Mats Wilander		9715
6	Guillermo Vilas		8095
7	Andre Agassi		7580
8	Novak Djokovic		7335
9	Gustavo Kuerten		7155
10	Jim Courier		6920
11	Sergi Bruguera		6310
12	Jan Kodes		5730
13	Juan Carlos Ferrero	5145
14	Michael Chang		4760
15	Ilie Nastase		4680
16	Adriano Panatta		4540
17	Jimmy Connors		4520
18	Alex Corretja		4455
19	Yannick Noah		4405
20	Yevgeny Kafelnikov	4115
21	Harold Solomon		4045
22	David Ferrer		3990
23	Albert Costa		3965
24	Thomas Muster		3920
25	Carlos Moya		3775
26	Andres Gomes		3755
27	Henri Leconte		3565
28	Manuel Orantes		3400
29	Stanislas Wawrinka	3235
30	Ken Rosewall		3200
Top 30 Wimbledon:
Code:
1	Roger Federer		17555
2	Pete Sampras		15370
3	Jimmy Connors		13995
4	Boris Becker		13365
5	Björn Borg		12010
6	John McEnroe		11345
7	Stefan Edberg		8215
8	Novak Djokovic		8035
9	Rafael Nadal		7970
10	Goran Ivanisevic	7915
11	Andre Agassi		6640
12	Ivan Lendl		6605
13	Andy Murray		6350
14	John Newcombe		6010
15	Andy Roddick		5355
16	Stan Smith		5120
17	Lleyton Hewitt		4775
18	Tim Henman		4690
19	Rod Laver		4585
20	Roscoe Tanner		4045
21	Arthur Ashe		4000
22	Pat Cash		3955
23	Ilie Nastase		3950
24	Pat Rafter		3805
25	Richard Krajicek	3775
26	Michael Stich		3740
27	Ken Rosewall		3570
28	Tony Roche		3290
29	Jan Kodes		3285
30	Tim Mayotte		3160
Top 30 US Open:
Code:
1	Jimmy Connors		18720
2	Pete Sampras		15230
3	Roger Federer		14530
4	Ivan Lendl		14080
5	Andre Agassi		13295
6	John McEnroe		12450
7	Novak Djokovic		9140
8	Rafael Nadal		7360
9	Stefan Edberg		6630
10	Lleyton Hewitt		6595
11	Björn Borg		6285
12	Arthur Ashe		5855
13	Andy Roddick		5695
14	Guillermo Vilas		5350
15	Andy Murray		5225
16	Mats Wilander		5200
17	Ken Rosewall		5135
18	Boris Becker		5025
19	John Newcombe		4620
20	Michael Chang		4415
21	Stan Smith		4415
22	Pat Rafter		4355
23	Ilie Nastase		3840
24	Vitas Gerulaitis	3570
25	Roscoe Tanner		3530
26	Todd Martin		3525
27	Manuel Orantes		3360
28	Jan Kodes		3345
29	Marat Safin		3280
30	Jim Courier		3065

Top-30 on Grass:
Code:
1	Jimmy Connors		19620
2	Roger Federer		17555
3	John Newcombe		17450
4	Pete Sampras		15370
5	Ken Rosewall		14865
6	Boris Becker		13950
7	Arthur Ashe		13730
8	Stefan Edberg		12620
9	John McEnroe		12425
10	Björn Borg		12325
11	Ivan Lendl		9470
12	Rod Laver		9395
13	Stan Smith		9280
14	Tony Roche		9040
15	Guillermo Vilas		8050
16	Novak Djokovic		8035
17	Rafael Nadal		7970
18	Goran Ivanisevic	7915
19	Roscoe Tanner		7505
20	Johan Kriek		7000
21	Mats Wilander		6975
22	Andre Agassi		6640
23	Ilie Nastase		6365
24	Andy Murray		6350
25	Pat Cash		6065
26	Jan Kodes		5955
27	Andy Roddick		5355
28	Vitas Gerulaitis	5075
29	Mark Edmondson		5040
30	John Alexander		4805
Top-30 on Clay:
Code:
1	Rafael Nadal		18540
2	Björn Borg		14460
3	Guillermo Vilas		10995
4	Roger Federer		10160
5	Ivan Lendl		9825
6	Mats Wilander		9715
7	Jimmy Connors		8920
8	Andre Agassi		7580
9	Novak Djokovic		7335
10	Gustavo Kuerten		7155
11	Jim Courier		6920
12	Jan Kodes		6360
13	Sergi Bruguera		6310
14	Ilie Nastase		5805
15	Manuel Orantes		5445
16	Juan Carlos Ferrero	5145
17	Harold Solomon		4955
18	Michael Chang		4760
19	Adriano Panatta		4675
20	Alex Corretja		4455
21	Yannick Noah		4405
22	Yevgeny Kafelnikov	4115
23	David Ferrer		3990
24	Albert Costa		3965
25	Thomas Muster		3920
26	Carlos Moya		3775
27	Andres Gomes		3755
28	Henri Leconte		3565
29	Rod Laver		3380
30	Stanislas Wawrinka	3235
Top-30 on Hardcourt:
Code:
1	Roger Federer		28590
2	Andre Agassi		23455
3	Pete Sampras		22870
4	Ivan Lendl		20550
5	Novak Djokovic		18420
6	Rafael Nadal		13830
7	John McEnroe		13350
8	Stefan Edberg		12975
9	Jimmy Connors		11895
10	Andy Murray		10285
11	Andy Roddick		9835
12	Boris Becker		9685
13	Lleyton Hewitt		9215
14	Jim Courier		9010
15	Mats Wilander		8335
16	Marat Safin		8275
17	Michael Chang		7310
18	Yevgeny Kafelnikov	6575
19	Todd Martin		5995
20	David Ferrer		5665
21	Pat Rafter		5600
22	Stanislas Wawrinka	5205
23	Tomas Berdych		4620
24	Wayne Ferreira		4380
25	Marin Cilic		4350
26	Juan Martin del Potro	4125
27	Jo-Wilfried Tsonga	4045
28	Thomas Muster		3975
29	Björn Borg		3960
30	Juan Carlos Ferrero	3780
 
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More stats

You can publish this if you want to, average points taken pr slam for the below:

Name - total - avg
Code:
Björn Borg		30925	1145,4
Rafael Nadal		40700	992,7
Roger Federer		56395	881,2
Novak Djokovic		35790	852,1
Rod Laver		12775	851,7
Ken Rosewall		18155	789,3
Pete Sampras		40385	776,6
John Newcombe		17830	713,2
Jimmy Connors		40435	709,4
Ivan Lendl		39845	699,0
John McEnroe		28760	639,1
Andre Agassi		37675	617,6
Boris Becker		26525	576,6
Mats Wilander		25025	568,8
Andy Murray		20995	567,4
Stefan Edberg		28525	528,2
Arthur Ashe		15845	511,1
Tony Roche		9895	430,2
Jim Courier		17980	428,1
Guillermo Vilas		20540	419,2
Andres Gimeno		5750	410,7
Jan Kodes		12360	343,3
Andy Roddick		15690	341,1
Roscoe Tanner		10000	312,5
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 	11665	307,0
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga  	8780	302,8
Pat Rafter		10515	300,4
Johan Kriek		9910	300,3
Michael Stich		9545	298,3
Ilie Nastase		12480	290,2
Vitas Gerulaitis       	10890	286,6
Marat Safin		11735	286,2
Gustavo Kuerten		9115	276,2
Manuel Orantes		7960	265,3
Stan Smith		11445	260,1
Pat Cash  	              	8795	258,7
Miroslav Mecir		5825	253,3
Lleyton Hewitt		15875	252,0
Goran Ivanisevic     	12535	245,8
Stanislas Wawrinka	              10065	245,5
Juan Martin del Potro	6575	243,5
Michael Chang		13190	231,4
Sergi Bruguera		7605	230,5
David Ferrer		11465	229,3
Juan Carlos Ferrero	              10385	225,8
Richard Krajicek      	8665	216,6
Yannick Noah		7975	215,5
Harold Solomon		5780	214,1
Tomas Berdych		9850	209,6
Thomas Muster		7935	203,5
Noone whose career started in the Open Era ever threatened Borg's number. The highest average Fed ever had was 1013 after AO 2010, the highest Nadal had was 1047 after RG 2014. McEnroe's maximum was 994, Connors 938, Lendl 865, Wilander 842, Sampras 826. Djokovic max is his current one, naturally. Laver and Rosewall I will leave out.

Best period of 10 years is Federer with 1274 avg for W 2003 - RG 2012.
 
Stats is my thing, PC stuff not so much. Trying to edit the 1st line proved beyond me.

Anyway, if anyone has any statistical related questions fire away. I might have the answer and so save you the trouble of duplicating something I've already done.
 

GabeT

Legend
^^^^ Excellent table.

I guess Borg's numbers are explained in part by the fact that he stopped playing at his speak.

Interesting that there isn't that big a difference between Federer and Nole, although I guess Federer is the opposite of Borg, playing well past his prime, and so his numbers may be trailing off.
 
^^^^ Excellent table.

I guess Borg's numbers are explained in part by the fact that he stopped playing at his speak.

Interesting that there isn't that big a difference between Federer and Nole, although I guess Federer is the opposite of Borg, playing well past his prime, and so his numbers may be trailing off.
Federer's numbers were very humble early on. Djokovic was off to a much faster start, Nadal better again than him and Borg best of all.

After playing five years Borg had 784 average, Nadal had 659, Djokovic 435, Federer 229 (this is not top-4!).
 

pame

Hall of Fame
haha.. I see you managed to make it here :) Guys this is "still friendly" (after he tried to join as "A Friend"; he got escorted to TT's spam forthwith :D

Anyway he's a tennis fanatic, stats and records man and allowed me to post the initial stats - so have at him :)
 
Thanks for the intro, pame.


Horror! I just realized there's an error in my stats. Fortunately it isn't in the numbers. islas is gone for the next update, Stan Wawrinka remains.
 

pame

Hall of Fame
BTW, did Stan change his first name before or after AO 2014? Whichever, rather than Stan-islas,, we can now call him Slammin' Stan? :D
 
BTW, did Stan change his first name before or after AO 2014? Whichever, rather than Stan-islas,, we can now call him Slammin' Stan? :D
French Open 2014 was the first tournament for Stan Wawrinka.

Not that I pay too much attention to such things. It's not like a nationality change where you have to get the right cutoff when comparing how much different nations have won. A depressing amount of sites just list the last nation for everything, even in cases like Lendl where he played a solid majority of his career for the original nation.
 
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Deleted member 733170

Guest
These stats speak volumes about what Federer has achieved in the GS's throughout his career.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for interesting data, people! Players with long career will always have better accumulated points while they will lose out in 'average' departments.
 
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