Will the Sinner 2024 hype come crashing down like Zverev's and Tsitsipas's respective hypes?

would Jannik be the new Saacha post-2018 and Tsitsipas post-2019?

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Zverev hype was sky high across social media back then after he beat Djokovic to win ATP Finals 2018. Although I'm not sure about this forum, on FB & Twitter people were calling him the future of tennis and whatnot. All that came crashing down in the years that followed; for the hype that was sold to us about him, Zverev has stagnated or has failed to impress in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and counting

Similarly, Tsitsipas was riding a hype-wave after having a tremendous season in 2019, having won tour finals and having recorded HC wins over Fed-Nole, Clay win over Rafa. Even in his case, for the hype that was sold to us, Tsitsipas has pretty much stagnated or even declined in some aspects, continuously failing to deliver in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 etc..

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype?

And no its not only about winning or losing v/s Rafa or Djokovic; Zverev & Tsitsipas have lost to countless of other low ranked players in a meek fashion since their hype trains started

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype? Vote & disscus, folks.

We'll come back one year later, to see what happened. Poll would close after ATP Finals 2024.
 
It will be interesting to see how Jannik manages to defend his points, but the good news is that he can still gain quite a bit at the AO and Roland Garros.

I think with Zverev, there was always a bit of doubt about him or perhaps within him. He has a very strong tendency to crumble mentally at important points.

Tsitsipas is surprisingly even-keeled, the question with him is whether or not he has that higher gear. He was doing very well in his Roland Garros final, but he couldn't seem to slam the door shut when it mattered. What is he missing?
 
Sinner has as an advantage that Federer is gone, Nadal basically too and Djokovic only playing part-time (and even then he doesn't have too much less before some decline sets in).

Zverev and Tsitsipas played better versions of the Big 3 and haven't really done badly against Sinner himself at all. We'll see in the next couple years since Zverev and Tsitsipas are still young.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Zverev hype was sky high across social media back then after he beat Djokovic to win ATP Finals 2018. Although I'm not sure about this forum, on FB & Twitter people were calling him the future of tennis and whatnot. All that came crashing down in the years that followed; for the hype that was sold to us about him, Zverev has stagnated or has failed to impress in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and counting

Similarly, Tsitsipas was riding a hype-wave after having a tremendous season in 2019, having won tour finals and having recorded HC wins over Fed-Nole, Clay win over Rafa. Even in his case, for the hype that was sold to us, Tsitsipas has pretty much stagnated or even declined in some aspects, continuously failing to deliver in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 etc..

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype?

And no its not only about winning or losing v/s Rafa or Djokovic; Zverev & Tsitsipas have lost to countless of other low ranked players in a meek fashion since their hype trains started

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype? Vote & disscus, folks.

We'll come back one year later, to see what happened. Poll would close after ATP Finals 2024.
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Zverev had a horrific ankle injury, he shouldn't be lumped in with Tsitsipas

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BauerAlmeida said:
Sinner has as an advantage that Federer is gone, Nadal basically too and Djokovic only playing part-time (and even then he doesn't have too much less before some decline sets in).

Zverev and Tsitsipas played better versions of the Big 3 and haven't really done badly against Sinner himself at all. We'll see in the next couple years since Zverev and Tsitsipas are still young.
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Tsitsipas and Zverev had the same advantage as Sinner and Alcaraz these past couple years (including Djokovic's absence from a s…load of tournaments) -- and yet achieved nothing/very little. Sinner has the opportunity to at least match what he has done in 2023 - something arguably only Alcaraz did.
Of the "[previous] new big 3", Medvedev seems to be the only one doing really well.
 
guilhermefdc said:
Tsitsipas and Zverev had the same advantage as Sinner and Alcaraz these past couple years (including Djokovic's absence from a s…load of tournaments) -- and yet achieved nothing/very little. Sinner has the opportunity to at least match what he has done in 2023 - something arguably only Alcaraz did.
Of the "[previous] new big 3", Medvedev seems to be the only one doing really well.
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Zverev won 5 M1000, 2 YEC and Olympic Gold, so while he underachieved compared to expectations, particularly in slams, he still is considerably ahead of Sinner. I don't see how Alcaraz only did better than Sinner.
 
BauerAlmeida said:
Zverev won 5 M1000, 2 YEC and Olympic Gold, so while he underachieved compared to expectations, particularly in slams, he still is considerably ahead of Sinner. I don't see how Alcaraz only did better than Sinner.
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Sorry, you are correct -- I meant after the hype-train (beating Djokovic @ the 2018 ATP Finals). His career is obviously better as of now - and his 2017 was scary good.
 
BauerAlmeida said:
Zverev won 5 M1000, 2 YEC and Olympic Gold, so while he underachieved compared to expectations, particularly in slams, he still is considerably ahead of Sinner. I don't see how Alcaraz only did better than Sinner.
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Expectations should be being able to deal with a 36 years old opponent, especially in BO5. But seems like this is asking for too much from that generation.
 
What do Djokovic fans predict will happen if Zed faces Nole at the Olympics again? Best-of-three seems to be preferred by the previous "new kids on the block".
 
StrongRule said:
Expectations should be being able to deal with a 36 years old opponent, especially in BO5. But seems like this is asking for too much from that generation.
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Well, Zverev has struggled vs all top players at slams, not just Djokovic & Nadal. But it would have been interesting to see what would have happened vs Nadal at RG without the injury.
 
I'm smirking at the comments that Zverev and Tsitsipas have had failed careers so far...

Zverev was just a couple points away from winning the US Open in 2020 before losing to Thiem in a 5th set tie-breaker in the finals. He also won the Olympic gold medal in singles, and the WTF twice, which are among his 21 tour titles. If not for the bad luck with his ankle injury at the French in 2022, I think he had a good shot at winning that major because he was on fire on clay that Spring and playing very well in that match against Rafa when he got injured. Alex is only 26 and should be in his prime still.

Tsitsipas has made it to two Grand Slam finals, the French and the Australian. Both times, he ran into Djokovic. In the French final, he had a two sets to none lead, so he was damn close to winning a major as well. Stefanos has bagged 10 titles, including a WTF, 2 Masters series, and a Badosa. ;) Not bad for a guy who is only 25.

The hype was legit for these guys, just as it is for Sinner. Their careers can't be judged yet when there are so many opportunities left in their careers for the next 5 to 10 years.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Zverev hype was sky high across social media back then after he beat Djokovic to win ATP Finals 2018. Although I'm not sure about this forum, on FB & Twitter people were calling him the future of tennis and whatnot. All that came crashing down in the years that followed; for the hype that was sold to us about him, Zverev has stagnated or has failed to impress in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and counting

Similarly, Tsitsipas was riding a hype-wave after having a tremendous season in 2019, having won tour finals and having recorded HC wins over Fed-Nole, Clay win over Rafa. Even in his case, for the hype that was sold to us, Tsitsipas has pretty much stagnated or even declined in some aspects, continuously failing to deliver in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 etc..

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype?

And no its not only about winning or losing v/s Rafa or Djokovic; Zverev & Tsitsipas have lost to countless of other low ranked players in a meek fashion since their hype trains started

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype? Vote & disscus, folks.

We'll come back one year later, to see what happened. Poll would close after ATP Finals 2024.
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Sinner is a lot better than Tsitsipas and it isn’t even funny. Sinner managed 81% season win rate this season, ten top five wins, 7 finals. Tsitsipas is 25 and never even come close to that. I expect a bigger season from Sinner in 2024. Probably 3 masters, the ATP finals and MAYBE a slam
 
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Thing is, Sinner will get to play in the post-Big 3 era. Djokovic will be gone in a couple of years and he'll still be in his prime. As to whether or not Sinner will be one of those to usher Djoker out the door, that jury is very much out. That said, I see Sinner putting together some slam winning runs against the current field sans-Djokovic.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Outside of slams, that's the key.
Additionally, I think Sascha's Cincinnati run was far superior to the Canadian open run of Sinner, and he played better on clay & at Tour finals too, add in Olympics as well.
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Sinner was superior at the Sunshine double as well. But there’s no doubt in my mind Sinners 2024 will be far superior to any season Sasha has ever had. I predict 3 masters, ATP finals and very possibly a slam
 
dking68 said:
I think Sinner will win more slams. Just superior on a hard court, and probably grass as well
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His biggest HC achievement is Canadian open 1000, having beaten Oldfils, Demon etc.
His biggest grass achievement is WB SF & losing meekly to Djokovic there.

Yet you're saying he'd achieve more Compared to Alcaraz who has a slam each on these surfaces, biggest non-slam title on grass, 2 master's 1000 on HC; all while being 2 years younger than the Italian.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
His biggest HC achievement is Canadian open 1000, having beaten Oldfils, Demon etc.
His biggest grass achievement is WB SF & losing meekly to Djokovic there.

Yet you're saying he'd achieve more Compared to Alcaraz who has a slam each on these surfaces, biggest non-slam title on grass, 2 master's 1000 on HC; all while being 2 years younger than the Italian.
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I think he’ll achieve more on hard courts than Carlos and Grass as well (his skiiing background similar to Novak). Carlos will be better on clay.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
What matters is a high quality run at a big event. Winning two 500s and losing all 3 big tournaments post-USO won't cut it, mate.
Additionally, he declined at slams in 2023 compared to 2022.
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I think he’ll do better in the slams next year

The Tsitsipas loss though - unacceptable. Was the better player in the first 4 sets and statistically overall in the match (6/11 break points vs 4/24) but lost. He could’ve easily played his first Melbourne final. 2024 will be key. Would be very surprised if he doesn’t make at least the semifinals
 
If you look at Sinner’s trajectory (which was covered in another thread not so long ago), you can see he’s no Tsitti or Zverev. Rather if you look at it closely, you can see he’s an ATG in the making.
 
The Sinner said:
If you look at Sinner’s trajectory (which was covered in another thread not so long ago), you can see he’s no Tsitti or Zverev. Rather if you look at it closely, you can see he’s an ATG in the making.
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Yes exactly. Peak Zverev managed an 80% win rate season with 6 finals. Sinner at 22, not at his peak managed 81% with 7 finals.

@Rafa4LifeEver i expect Sinner to make double digit finals in 2024 - with around 6/7 title wins
 
Never write off a young prodigy which has been improving every single season in almost every single important category. Mr. Process loves the grind and enjoys the fight.
 
Rafa4LifeEver said:
Zverev hype was sky high across social media back then after he beat Djokovic to win ATP Finals 2018. Although I'm not sure about this forum, on FB & Twitter people were calling him the future of tennis and whatnot. All that came crashing down in the years that followed; for the hype that was sold to us about him, Zverev has stagnated or has failed to impress in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and counting

Similarly, Tsitsipas was riding a hype-wave after having a tremendous season in 2019, having won tour finals and having recorded HC wins over Fed-Nole, Clay win over Rafa. Even in his case, for the hype that was sold to us, Tsitsipas has pretty much stagnated or even declined in some aspects, continuously failing to deliver in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 etc..

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype?

And no its not only about winning or losing v/s Rafa or Djokovic; Zverev & Tsitsipas have lost to countless of other low ranked players in a meek fashion since their hype trains started

Do you think the same would happen to Sinner's hype? Vote & disscus, folks.

We'll come back one year later, to see what happened. Poll would close after ATP Finals 2024.
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Lol this thread didn't age well! Sinner proved everyone wrong
 
Jack the Hack said:
I'm smirking at the comments that Zverev and Tsitsipas have had failed careers so far...

Zverev was just a couple points away from winning the US Open in 2020 before losing to Thiem in a 5th set tie-breaker in the finals. He also won the Olympic gold medal in singles, and the WTF twice, which are among his 21 tour titles. If not for the bad luck with his ankle injury at the French in 2022, I think he had a good shot at winning that major because he was on fire on clay that Spring and playing very well in that match against Rafa when he got injured. Alex is only 26 and should be in his prime still.

Tsitsipas has made it to two Grand Slam finals, the French and the Australian. Both times, he ran into Djokovic. In the French final, he had a two sets to none lead, so he was damn close to winning a major as well. Stefanos has bagged 10 titles, including a WTF, 2 Masters series, and a Badosa. ;) Not bad for a guy who is only 25.

The hype was legit for these guys, just as it is for Sinner. Their careers can't be judged yet when there are so many opportunities left in their careers for the next 5 to 10 years.
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As of now though, Sinner and Alcaraz though several years younger, have won multiple slams which Zverev and Tsitsipas have not. But then, on could say that the older two had to deal with younger versions of Fedal and Novak.
 
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