will tsitsipas service motion prevent him from becoming a future ATG

lim

Semi-Pro
Always knew there was something off with stefs serve like he always looks off balance after contact. Watching AO highlights it is pretty obvious- he lands facing away from his target. Never seen anybody do this before??
Literally below, if Rafa was out of the frame I would have thought he had just served from the deuce side :-D:-D. Timmy and joecovid below for comparison. Not as bad as Zverez aka doublefaultcity but is this a bad look for Tsitsi going forward or will his sheer athleticism make up for it?





 

skypadq

Hall of Fame
and more importanly tsitsipas 's one hand backhand return is so sucks
look at raonic vs tsitsipas 's 2020 AO match
tsitsipas , this guy have lot a problem with big server 's serve
 

socallefty

Legend
I don’t know how much his service motion will affect his singles play adversely, but it definitely affects his doubles play and ability to serve-and-volley and come to net quickly. He falls away sideways and is much slower coming to net in doubles - I noticed it when he played doubles with Nadal in Laver Cup.
 

socallefty

Legend
Weird to call the number one player in the world washed up.
Not only is the #1 player washed up, but #2 and #4 are ten years past their “prime” and #4 is a “grandpa“ - of course, it might be of passing interest that they’ve won the last 13 Slams. Must be a “weak era” full of “mugs” - the GPPD section is comedy gold.
 
Weird to call the number one player in the world washed up.
Djokovic had way more mileage than tsitsimug, finished his last match way after tsitsimug did, had a much difficult last match than tsitsimug & still managed to steamroll him6-3 6-4.
Washed up = Tired, that's what I meant to say here.
 

Frylock

Rookie
Not only is the #1 player washed up, but #2 and #4 are ten years past their “prime” and #4 is a “grandpa“ - of course, it might be of passing interest that they’ve won the last 13 Slams. Must be a “weak era” full of “mugs” - the GPPD section is comedy gold.
It's not a good image for tennis.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Will there ever be another ATG after the big 3?
Will Thiem, Felix, Shapo, Zverev, Stef, Sinner or De Minaur ever reach 6 slams? Unknowable right now with the world and tennis in flux. But as Lendl said last year, "none of them are anywhere near as good as the big three. None of them mind losing.... a big problem."
 

Robert F

Professional
Could we get a false All Time great when the Big 3 retire. There will be a vacuum and will one guy fill it picking up 6 slams over a few years or will the wealth be spread out?
 
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Deleted member 768841

Guest
No need for a proper serve on slow courts anyway.
I watched some old clay and slow court matches like Fedal ‘05 and god the courts are slow. Federer hits a flat serve probably 120 to Nadal’s forehand and the second it hits the ground it’s like a 70/80 at most. Yikes.
 
Once he irons out his social media situation and fixes his ball toss, the sky is the limit.

He has already worked a lot on his backhand return of serve and he can now go very big with it.

It looks like there might be a growing number of people rooting against the Stefanos, but there are majors incoming for sure.
 

Robert F

Professional
Unfortunately, I think this generation often unfairly loses fans. I know many times I've seen some new guy and get really excited by his game. Many of us and many tennis pundits jump on board, only to be disappointed. They just can't keep it up. As the lack of their relative success continues (mainly not winning slams despite other potential accomplishments), our disappointment turns into resentment and frustration and then we turn against them.

I remember the run Tsetse fly had in Canada, wow this guys got potential. But with time he seemed more concerned with social media and can be a hothead on court.
Sasha Baron Cohen had great groundies. That backhand is killer, he seemed committed to the game, but once he stalled he came off as deserving instead of hungry.
Little Nicky appeared to have all this potential, only to confirm over and over his game is at is peaks and is what it is. "What if he really trained...." No, this is what we get.
Karen had some flashes of greatness. He was fit, he could attack the ball. But clearly has a ceiling.
FAA--he's got pizzazz, he comes forward. He seems energetic and humble. Let's see what happens.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
I mean, everybody is the next somebody. Fed was the next Sampras. The similarities are undeniable, mostly the 1HBH.
That's a very rare case where someone hyped to be the next "someone" actually turned out better. Look at golf for example, every young player who makes a breakthrough is suddenly pinned as the "next Tiger" and in basketball near the turn of the millennium, every athletic winger was compared to MJ (and only Kobe came somewhat close).
 

clout

Hall of Fame
I still have hopes for Zverev deep down
Zverev was playing better in 2017 than he is now as crazy as that may sound. He's 6'6 and having the serve yips and can't consistently crush the ball like Delpo, Safin and Cilic (other top player his height) then he's gotta go back to the drawing board imo
 

Robert F

Professional
He's still too lean for his size. I wonder if he is not focusing his fitness properly. Might be doing too much work with a lot of court time and can't put on bodyweight. Might be better for him to eat more, focus on strength and find the minimal effective time court to maintain technique and tennis fitness.
 
He's still too lean for his size. I wonder if he is not focusing his fitness properly. Might be doing too much work with a lot of court time and can't put on bodyweight. Might be better for him to eat more, focus on strength and find the minimal effective time court to maintain technique and tennis fitness.
193 cm, 89 kg, pretty much perfect for his height.
 

Robert F

Professional
6'4" 196 for us American's in the stone age. For that height way underweight for most sports, tennis you can be lighter, but I wonder if he was closer to 205/210 he'd be able to keep more heft in his strokes. Obviously you have to be careful to get to heavy and then impede court coverage.
 

Rosstour

Legend
He's still too lean for his size. I wonder if he is not focusing his fitness properly. Might be doing too much work with a lot of court time and can't put on bodyweight. Might be better for him to eat more, focus on strength and find the minimal effective time court to maintain technique and tennis fitness.
I don't think he's gifted with a lot of explosiveness.
 
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