Wilson Blade v7 18x20 cross stringing question

[Znak]

I'm pretty sure I did this wrong... I'm so used to Yonex 2-pieces which end up so clean. I bought a new 18x20 v7 Blade and as per their site, it mentions to tie the x-string at 6T, 12B. Problem being the mains have already travelled back to tie off at 7B which leaves a bundle of strings like in this photo. How can I do this so it comes out cleaner? Someone in the wilson thread mentioned tying off the bottom x-string on 9B but that's on a main string — isn't that a no-no? Kilppermate's site says to tie off on 6B, but that requires enlarging the hole and also a main string.

Should I have tied off the main strings on 9B so it clears up some space? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

 

[jwocky]

For a two-piece:
Mains tie-off 9T (throat)
Crosses tie-off 9H (head/hoop), 7T

Ends up much cleaner

Reference @ 9s, 14s, 18s:

 

[Znak]

For a two-piece:
Mains tie-off 9T (throat)
Crosses tie-off 9H (head/hoop), 7T

Ends up much cleaner

Reference @ 9s, 14s, 18s:

Oh yeah that looks much better! So it's okay to tie a cross off on a main? I could have sworn I read something that said otherwise

 

[1HBHfanatic]

Oh yeah that looks much better! So it's okay to tie a cross off on a main? I could have sworn I read something that said otherwise

yeah its ok to tie off on a main
only time you wanna rethink that, its when you deal with nat.gut, in that instance I preffer to tie gut2gut, poly2poly...

 

[Znak]

Amazing, thanks for all your help, will give this a go next string job.

 

[Wes]

So it's okay to tie a cross off on a main? I could have sworn I read something that said otherwise

Yeah, it's ok to tie a cross off on a main.

In fact, the top cross ties off onto a main (anchor) string on about 99% of all racquets.
I mean, you really have no other choice for the top cross... unless your going to hold the top cross with a starting clamp until you have the 2nd or 3rd cross string installed/tensioned - and then tie the top cross off onto a lower cross. This is what @1HBHfanatic was talking about in post #4, regarding "gut2gut" and "poly2poly".

99% of frames are not factory designed to be done this way. So, to accomplish this, you'd need to enlarge the correct (cross) grommet before you begin.
Of course, there's always "the exception to the rule"... such as most Pure Storm frames are designed for the top cross to tie to the 3rd cross.
If I recall, I think the Yonex V-Core Duel G frames have the top cross tie off on the 2nd cross.

Now, as far as where bottom crosses are generally designated to be tied off... I'd say it's roughly 50/50.
About half the time, the bottom cross ties off on another cross (i.e. 10T, 11T, or 12T).
About half the time, the bottom cross ties off onto a main (i.e. 6T, 7T, 8T, or 9T).

So... considering almost all top crosses get tied to a main, and that bottom crosses are fairly evenly split, that means that the vast majority of all crosses (say, 74%) get tied off onto a main. So, only like 26% of all crosses are designated to be tied off onto another cross.

 

[GuilhermeG]

Revisiting the thread to ask about the knot when finishing crosses.

Wilson's instruction says the last knot should be on 12 bottom, but I don't think there's enough space between the frame and the mains. The knot would be pushing the last mains. Is this correct or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Irvin]

Revisiting the thread to ask about the knot when finishing crosses.

Wilson's instruction says the last knot should be on 12 bottom, but I don't think there's enough space between the frame and the mains. The knot would be pushing the last mains. Is this correct or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

What’s so wrong with the knot touching a string? It’s tied off on a string (most of the time.)

 

[jbaldas]

Revisiting the thread to ask about the knot when finishing crosses.

Wilson's instruction says the last knot should be on 12 bottom, but I don't think there's enough space between the frame and the mains. The knot would be pushing the last mains. Is this correct or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

@ GuilhermeG -
You are not doing anything wrong. Often times the tie-off location will be in a tight fit location. Depending on which type of tie-off knot you typically utilize, you may want to try an alternate knot, i.e. Pro knot

 

[jim e]

Revisiting the thread to ask about the knot when finishing crosses.

Wilson's instruction says the last knot should be on 12 bottom, but I don't think there's enough space between the frame and the mains. The knot would be pushing the last mains. Is this correct or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

There is enough room. Knot just touching last main. Once strung, the grommet flattens some to make little more room. Same racquet blade pro v8.0 they changed tie off to a more civilized location where there is plenty of room.