Wilson blade v8 18x20 vs Blade pro 18x20

staryugi

Rookie
Please, can someone compare these two racquets in all aspects if they were to have the same swingweight ( eg SW= 330 for both ), thanks guys !
 

Fintft

G.O.A.T.
AGAIK, Blade Pro v8 has tons more power and it is more head heavy("But it is very easy to swing, once you start it" and "The best racquet I've played with" according to my coaches). Very stable and yet with feel and control.
Takes some using to, though.
Personally I love it over regular Blade and any other stick at this time.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
If only you didn't have to front $2500 to buy ten Blade Pro's, just to find a couple that are spec'd close enough to one another, let alone on-spec. Absolutely atrocious quality control (if you can even call it that), which mares an otherwise brilliant frame.
 
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gold325

Hall of Fame
AGAIK, Blade Pro v8 has tons more power and it is more head heavy("But it is very easy to swing, once you start it" and "The best racquet I've played with" according to my coaches). Very stable and yet with feel and control.
Takes some using to, though.
Personally I love it over regular Blade and any other stick at this time.

He is asking about 18m vs 18m

Please, can someone compare these two racquets in all aspects if they were to have the same swingweight ( eg SW= 330 for both ), thanks guys !

Lets assume they are at same spec (strung with same string)

The Pro 18m has a tighter string pattern, looks much better due to the glossy finish. Both are relatively hard to swing but the Pro is a little harder, so preparing early and good footwork are somehow more important. The Pro however has a slightly different flex feel that makes it feel a little laggy if that makes any sense, again technique is important. I would pick the Pro 18m just based on looks alone though.

I am sure some Pro 18m lover will correct me but if they are already good enough to use the Pro 18m - why will they think it is harder to use than the regular 18m

Personally for me.
BP 16m better than UP 16m
UP 18m better than BP 18m - you can use lead to simulate an easier to use better feeling BP 18m - i know, i know this can be a controversial statement around these parts.

If only you didn't have to front $2500 to buy ten Blade Pro's, just to find a couple that are spec'd close enough to one another, let alone on-spec. Absolutely atrocious quality control (if you even call it that), which mares an otherwise brilliant frame.

Buy 3 and pick 1 might be the best option - unfortunately Wilson makes great tennis racquets, everything other than their regular Ultra Line is good.
 
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Aretium

Hall of Fame
I haven’t played with the pro but one of the above posters is spot on when it comes to buying heavier frames. I bought 6 blades that were going for maybe half the price of the pro. Picked 3 similar and one that was a bit higher in swingweight. Which is fine because my modded specs are much higher. 345 sw. So I can afford to have a few off. When I used the rf it was a lottery and had 5 rackets that were very different.

If you’re buying the blade pro which is already at the end of the SW limit for most rec and semi serious players. You have to either get lucky or buy a bunch.

If you’re bothered by having different rackets it will be a problem otherwise whatever

My point is if you can get a good deal on the blade, you can spec it up to near similar specs to the pro. Obviously it won’t feel the same or look the same.

The glossy paint is so tempting though haha
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
When I used the rf it was a lottery and had 5 rackets that were very different.
If you’re buying the blade pro [...] You have to either get lucky or buy a bunch.
And it's because of this nonsense that Wilson-direct (without a matching service) is a no-go for me. The same goes for Babolat, Head and Tecnifibre. Yes, it's a first-world problem, but it's still something that could be fixed if someone only so much as cared enough and bought their CFO and board of directors a couple steak dinners.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
And it's because of this nonsense that Wilson-direct (without a matching service) is a no-go for me. The same goes for Babolat, Head and Tecnifibre. Yes, it's a first-world problem, but it's still something that could be fixed if someone only so much as cared enough and bought their CFO and board of directors a couple steak dinners.

To be fair it would be expensive for them to measure each racket, reject frames or improved production lines. Money that would better be suited in pockets of directors lol

The other problem I had is stock. The BP was never in stock when I was considering it and when it was I couldn’t order 4+ Grrr
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
To be fair it would be expensive for them to measure each racket
Yet somehow, little 'ol Tennis Warehouse has figured out how to do it for a mere $10 per multiple frames. So it's not that it can't be done; it's just that they don't want to. Of course, you already know that, and I'm just agreeing with you.
The other problem I had is stock. The BP was never in stock when I was considering it and when it was I couldn’t order 4+ Grrr
Stock problems have definitely hit Wilson harder than others. The tough thing there is how to implement "fixes" that are still relevant by the time the effects take hold. Supply chain is a constantly-shifting beast.
 

Fintft

G.O.A.T.
I haven’t played with the pro but one of the above posters is spot on when it comes to buying heavier frames. I bought 6 blades that were going for maybe half the price of the pro. Picked 3 similar and one that was a bit higher in swingweight. Which is fine because my modded specs are much higher. 345 sw. So I can afford to have a few off. When I used the rf it was a lottery and had 5 rackets that were very different.

If you’re buying the blade pro which is already at the end of the SW limit for most rec and semi serious players. You have to either get lucky or buy a bunch.

If you’re bothered by having different rackets it will be a problem otherwise whatever

My point is if you can get a good deal on the blade, you can spec it up to near similar specs to the pro. Obviously it won’t feel the same or look the same.

The glossy paint is so tempting though haha
I guess I got lucky then. With 3 out of 3 BPs.
 

AVSH

Banned
Is it fair to say that Blade pro is a harder-to-use version of the retail blade? I haven't used BP that's why Im asking and don't know how the Sweetspot compare
 

born_hard

Rookie
I bought the Blade Pro 18x20 and its a heavy ****er, yes, 337g with dampener, strings and 2 overgrips. SW is on the high side for this weight but just slightly above a lets say a Head Gravity Pro.
2 things stand out. If you accelerate it through contact point you send the ball with a laser beam power over the net, its unreal. The ball goes in a low launch angle, extremely fast but not in an uncontrolled manner, you still have very good control over lenght and height.
The other thing is, its very buttery in feel, cery smooth and linear flex. There is not a ceiling in glex, even if you swing the **** out the racket, you will feel a very smooth impact, nothing stiff or hard . So yes, its somehow Wilson like in this respect, flexy feeling, its not a stiff Babolat.
I cant compare to a Blade V8 18x20 but the BP feels very pro, no flimsy unstable toy, no its a very stable weapon. Its best racket i played for very precise 2 handed backhands, and laser beam brutal forehands and serves. On the net its little bit slow for maneuvering, but hey a perfect racket doesnt exist.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
Is it fair to say that Blade pro is a harder-to-use version of the retail blade? I haven't used BP that's why Im asking and don't know how the Sweetspot compare

Yes absolutely as long as you dont get an overspec retail model... Again if you can get it consistently out front then it is no longer an issue

Sweet Spot for 16x19 Blade is arguably bigger than the Retail since it has a more open pattern - its the flex and difficulty to get moving that is more of an issue for most.

Its like saying the RF97 is hard to use but if you are Fed Jr. then it can no longer be called hard to use.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Is it fair to say that Blade pro is a harder-to-use version of the retail blade? I haven't used BP that's why Im asking and don't know how the Sweetspot compare

Kind of. The Blade Pro is more of a flexible tweener/power frame like the older Radicals were. The 16x19 Blade Pro accomodates a swing that adds shape to the ball while still driving it a bit. If you like to hit flat, the Blade Pro 18x20 is a better choice.

The regular Blade is more of a modern control frame. Less power, more control, faster to swing and probably a lower twistweight then the Blade Pro. If you can get a BP at around a 300 SW, it is not much more SW than a Blade, but it plays more like a battle axe than the samuarai like swing you get from a control frame.
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
I ended up getting an ultra tour over the V7 blade due to the what u felt was slightly excessive swingweight, balance too but I heard the V8 was a nicer stick and a bit easier to handle than the V7. I would like a blade pro but would want to try it first I think
 

staryugi

Rookie
Hi guys I ordered one from wilson labs this week and got it today. Specs 305 gr unstrung, 323 strung, Balance 33cm strung, i didn't measure the swingweight yet, i got lucky ?
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gold325

Hall of Fame
Hi guys I ordered one from wilson labs this week and got it today. Specs 305 gr unstrung, 323 strung, Balance 33cm strung, i didn't measure the swingweight yet, i got lucky ?
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Yes not bad at all. You got weight on spec and 4HL strung which is good! What string did you go with?
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
I still don't understand why Wilson are making a better prestige than Head thesedays? Looks a nice frame. I would like one, I do like the ultra tour frame but this looks like it's a bit heavier to handle, is it nice on the arm? I just wish it was more balanced towards 310 to add weight of desired to the head. That was why many preferred the ultra tour which I guess is even more of a prestige than this frame spec wise. The Blade had a bit more easy power which is why it seemed to take over as the racket to have for at least 10 years now. Which is when the last top level Head series was produced regards their pro level range. I think the Head frame is better value say the prestige at about half the price of the blade but quality comes at a bigger premium thesedays.
 
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Power Player

Bionic Poster
I still don't understand why Wilson are making a better prestige than Head thesedays? Looks a nice frame. I would like one, I do like the ultra tour frame but this looks like it's a bit heavier to handle, is it nice on the arm? I just wish it was more balanced towards 310 to add weight of desired to the head. That was why many preferred the ultra tour which I guess is even more of a prestige than this frame spec wise. The Blade had a bit more easy power which is why it seemed to take over as the racket to have for at least 10 years now. Which is when the last top level Head series was produced regards their pro level range. I think the Head frame is better value say the prestige at about half the price of the blade but quality comes at a bigger premium thesedays.

I have asked this same question. Its pretty funny how so many people would love a 305 gram 63-65 RA 98 with a 16x19 pattern, amazing feel with a more 6 pts HL-ish balance, but Head continues to do weird stuff like make their Prestige Pro too heavy or use weird drill patterns or just not nail the feel at all. Which is madness considering they released the Pro Tour 2.0 which feels amazing, but they somehow can't make that translate to their flagship racquets.
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
I have asked this same question. Its pretty funny how so many people would love a 305 gram 63-65 RA 98 with a 16x19 pattern, amazing feel with a more 6 pts HL-ish balance, but Head continues to do weird stuff like make their Prestige Pro too heavy or use weird drill patterns or just not nail the feel at all. Which is madness considering they released the Pro Tour 2.0 which feels amazing, but they somehow can't make that translate to their flagship racquets.
I think it's a business decision as the pro tour 2.0 was the exception to the rule with recent releases. My only issue with that frame was reverting back to the shorter pallets having got used to the improved IG range, I did use the youtek before which was the last line to have them. It seems they have dumbed the range down which is great for newer players and players that want to be able to hit with more power easily. The gravity pro was a massive hit for many players but lacked the maneuverability to be an option for me despite how nice it hit on both wings. I really don't understand the newer prestige ranges as finally when they change it they have made the head bigger? I am of course talking about the MP version. The pro has always been stiffer in the prestige range and not as nice feeling. The newer MP (now called auxetic Pro) I have still yet to try but hear its not as nice feeling as the 360+ but the string pattern is more open now and that plays more like a 16/19 anyway. I want a pure 18/20 like the older drill patterns.
Maybe they need to bring a pro line out like Wilson, the rackets cost more but at least the consumer can access the better frames.
 

staryugi

Rookie
I have asked this same question. Its pretty funny how so many people would love a 305 gram 63-65 RA 98 with a 16x19 pattern, amazing feel with a more 6 pts HL-ish balance, but Head continues to do weird stuff like make their Prestige Pro too heavy or use weird drill patterns or just not nail the feel at all. Which is madness considering they released the Pro Tour 2.0 which feels amazing, but they somehow can't make that translate to their flagship racquets.
The Radical line was too good until the IG in 2013, i don't know why they made the radical so stiff and jarring, it's a shame ! it could be a great contender to the blade!
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@staryugi - Because Head had just found decent success in adding Graphene to their skis -- I remember distinctly because I was working at a ski gear review channel at the time, and I could remember how much stiffer those skis flexed and felt on the snow. I'd presume some higher-up(s) at Head figured, "Hey, why not just recycle this into our racquets?", and the idea pushed on down, even when Kennelbach was probably coming back to them saying that it played like crap in testing, but the rest is history, and at least as of G360+ the frames have taken a turn for the better.
 
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mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
I think a weighted up (*a couple of grams at 12) Blade V8 18x20 works just as nicely as the Blade Pro, which is a more powerful stick. Some have complained that the Pro version comes with higher SW than spec, which is already pretty high. If you go with the Pro version, you might want to ask for the under spec’d one if Wilson is willing to pick one out for you. I really like the V8 Blade in almost everything, except it lacks power. Surprisingly, even with its lack of power, the V8 Blade 18x20 is one of the most stable frames I’ve ever hit with and is great against heavy hitters. It just needs a little modification to gain more plow and power.

I prefer the regular Blade V8 18x20.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
If you go with the Pro version, you might want to ask for the under spec’d one if Wilson is willing to pick one out for you.
Good luck with that. Unless you're a sponsored athlete, Wilson direct offers nothing in the way of racquet matching, at least not as far as I'm aware. Maybe you could "pretty please" a sales tech over the phone, but I highly doubt it would go much beyond that conversation. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I have a BP at 328ish SW right now and I hate to say but it doesn't have the same magic for me as when it's in the 330s.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
I have a BP at 328ish SW right now and I hate to say but it doesn't have the same magic for me as when it's in the 330s.
even when you add wieght ?
Each player should find his own formula for their racket - I think it is almost always better to have a lighter spec frame and build it up to your specs. If I had to pick between a 322 Blade Pro vs 330 Blade Pro vs 338 Blade Pro - It will be the 322 for me every time and then lead it up to spec.

You are really lucky. Even my 2 Ultra Tours are 324SW with thin 1.20 poly....
 
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staryugi

Rookie
Each player should find his own formula for their racket - I think it is almost always better to have a lighter spec frame and build it up to your specs. If I had to pick between a 322 Blade Pro vs 330 Blade Pro vs 338 Blade Pro - It will be the 322 for me every time and then lead it up to spec.

You are really lucky. Even my 2 Ultra Tours are 324SW with thin 1.20 poly....
exactly that's what i was thinking !
 

staryugi

Rookie
I tried it at 322 sw, the sound coming from the racquet is so PRO lol, i am a blade 18x20 user, the only time i heard that sound was when i watched Paris bercy indoor live lol
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Each player should find his own formula for their racket - I think it is almost always better to have a lighter spec frame and build it up to your specs. If I had to pick between a 322 Blade Pro vs 330 Blade Pro vs 338 Blade Pro - It will be the 322 for me every time and then lead it up to spec.

You are really lucky. Even my 2 Ultra Tours are 324SW with thin 1.20 poly....

Im not saying that, so im not sure why you are quoting me. Im saying the Blade Pro seems to play better at higher SWs.
 

staryugi

Rookie
Im not saying that, so im not sure why you are quoting me. Im saying the Blade Pro seems to play better at higher SWs.
yes but no one said that we will play with it at 322 sw, we talking about what specsare perfect to have when buying it online, of course low sw specs !
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
yes but no one said that we will play with it at 322 sw, we talking about what specsare perfect to have when buying it online, of course low sw specs !

I get this. Again, I was simply giving you advice on what SW you may want to try it at. That was it.

Although I personally like when I don't have to lead a frame up, but thats just my preference.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
Im not saying that, so im not sure why you are quoting me. Im saying the Blade Pro seems to play better at higher SWs.
No disrespect was meant or intended! True about higher SW for Blades (although BP are technically not Blades... :-D ), if I could play my BladeV5-18m @ 340sw I would as well... For now I have to stick to 325sw for it.

Although I personally like when I don't have to lead a frame up, but thats just my preference.
Yes works great for "Power Player"s. What about us Normal Players? (My attempt at a Saturday evening joke... )
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
No disrespect was meant or intended! True about higher SW for Blades (although BP are technically not Blades... :-D ), if I could play my BladeV5-18m @ 340sw I would as well... For now I have to stick to 325sw for it.


Yes works great for "Power Player"s. What about us Normal Players? (My attempt at a Saturday evening joke... )

Honestly I prefer under 330 now with my racquets, which is why I tried to lower the BP down a bit with a thin string. But I found for me, its just better in the 330s. 340s, not for me either!

The BP just seems to me like a frame that needs to be over 330SW to really deliver the goods but maybe other people will find it different.
 
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Deleted member 793875

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Reading through this thread, I'm still confused on what the difference is, spec wise they look almost identical. How do they compare in terms of feel and comfort?
 

eric42

Rookie
Reading through this thread, I'm still confused on what the difference is, spec wise they look almost identical. How do they compare in terms of feel and comfort?
About the only thing in common between the V8 frame and the Blade Pro frame are the head size and "Blade" name painted on it. Otherwise, they are very different racquets in terms of swingweight, stiffness, power, feel, and dampening. Blade Pro is much stiffer and heavier. Doesn't feel like a Blade at all. Feels more like a beefed up Radical Pro.
 
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Deleted member 793875

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About the only thing in common between the V8 frame and the Blade Pro frame are the head size and "Blade" name painted on it. Otherwise, they are very different racquets in terms of swingweight, stiffness, power, feel, and dampening. Blade Pro is much stiffer and heavier. Doesn't feel like a Blade at all. Feels more like a beefed up Radical Pro.
So then why does Wilson's site have them both with such similar specs, and the weight basically the same? Also, is there somewhere with more detailed specs on the Blade Pro than wilsons website?
 
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