Wilson Blade V9 2024

aus89

Hall of Fame
Or if Wilson prefers them to have new racquets on TV, and not scuffed and damaged, so they're still playing with the 2023 batch. Especially if they're playing a lot daily
Just depends whether theyve taken delivery yet or not - most of them will pick up their new frames in Australia at the start of the season
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
I wonder how much younger and stronger everyone was when the v5 was out. The v8 can have some lower swingweights with QC, but same frame dimensions, weight and swingweight I don't see why the v8 would be less powerful objectively.

My son who is 20 said the same thing.

He felt the V8 had less power and also at the same time less control than with the previous models (which I took to mean the V8 had less feedback as well as precision.). Note: I strung his V8 demo with the exact same string setup and tension as he has used with the previous versions.
 

Mischko

Professional
If they weren't measured, and then compared, it's difficult to know anything, as Blades 18x20 gens are too similar. It's completely possible that the v5 had a 338sw and the v8 320sw - like my demo, 312g unstrung and 318sw strung

I think that the weight is redistributed a bit with v8, less at the top, more on the sides and throat, me likey a lot. And it's softer, which enables me to swing through flat impact more, important for an 18x20. So although it's flexier a player could even have a quicker avg ball speed with it
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
If they weren't measured, and then compared, it's difficult to know anything, as Blades 18x20 gens are too similar. It's completely possible that the v5 had a 338sw and the v8 320sw - like my demo, 312g unstrung and 318sw strung

I think that the weight is redistributed a bit with v8, less at the top, more on the sides and throat, me likey a lot. And it's softer, which enables me to swing through flat impact more, important for an 18x20. So although it's flexier a player could even have a quicker avg ball speed with it

I don't recall indicating they weren't measured nor that they were 18x20 as they were actually 16x19s and yes they were measured. I am traveling abroad or I would locate the data.

I measure all his sticks and I measured the demo. The SW on the demo was slightly less than his other sticks which are all matched. The difference between the V8 and his other sticks was not enough to account for the differences in performance.

Others have noted these difference in this thread going back to the onset and yes our experience were the same. SW = down, stiffness = down, control/precision = down from previous versions.

In my opinion they altered the specs to make them more friendly to the general less demanding player and with these changes in this version they have lost some of what made previous versions special.
 
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ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
All the older generation blades I owned had a 330+ swingweight, usually closer to to 340. There is quite a bit QC variance but I own three blade V8s and they all had a 320 swingweight strung. 3-4 grams of lead under the bumper at 12 and I am at a 300 unstrung swingweight.

I agree at 320 swingweight you need to work harder and don't get the Blade goodness of unreal stability and plough in a lighter overall static weight.

From my personal experience once I bumped the swingweight I don't have any complaints and it has been for me personally my favourite blade. Before this one my favourite was the v4.

I have owned the NBlade, KBlade, v4, v5, V6 and v7 Blades.

The v8 is stable, has almost no vibration and isn't too muted or too flexy. It's Goldilocks for me :)
 
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LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
All the older generation blades I owned had a 330+ swingweight, usually closer to to 340. There is quite a bit QC variance but I own three blade V8s and they all had a 320 swingweight strung. 3-4 grams of lead under the bumper at 12 and I am at a 300 unstrung swingweight.

I agree at 320 swingweight you need to work harder and don't get the Blade goodness of unreal stability and plough in a lighter overall static weight.

From my personal experience once I bumped the swingweight I don't have any complaints and it has been for me personally my favourite blade. Before this one my favourite was the v4.

I have owned the NBlade, KBlade, v4, v5, V6 and v7 Blades.

The v8 is stable, has almost no vibration and isn't too muted of too flexy. It's Goldilocks for me :)

Man those V4s, NBlade, KBlade sticks were the bomb.
 

Mischko

Professional
Oh I wasn't implying anything, and great that you did measure them. But if it's not written "at the same sw" or similar, I usually don't assume it, simply because vast majority of comparisons on this forum is by people who haven't measured their swingweights, and often not even static weight or balance

And I don't have a comparison, haven't tried the v5 16x19

@ProRadTour Your v8s are also 16x19?
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
Oh I wasn't implying anything, and great that you did measure them. But if it's not written "at the same sw" or similar, I usually don't assume it, simply because vast majority of comparisons on this forum is by people who haven't measured their swingweights, and often not even static weight or balance

And I don't have a comparison, haven't tried the v5 16x19

@ProRadTour Your v8s are also 16x19?

Thanks, sorry about that.

Yes, my son has been playing competitive tournament tennis since he was 8 and is now a junior playing college tennis. He is on the smallish side of things and a scrambling all court lefty vs. a big power righty and the Blade 16x19 gives him the control he craves with a bit more pop that he needs vs. 18x20. I think that is what makes the blade such an awesome stick is you have the option in string pattern which is best to suit your game.

Unfortunately for the reasons noted above he switched away from the V8 and moved to the TF40 305 16x19 but would switch back if they brought back some of the features from the older frames.
 

ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
@Mischko No, I orginally had the 16 x 19 and it could be in my head but I feel it has a hot spot and does unpredictable things. So I went back to the 18 x 20 and have been using it for the last year or so. 18 x 20 is extermely predictable.
 

ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
I love the v8 paint job, but wished the black section didn't have a hard clean line and had a fade like the Head Pro Tour 630 and Head Radical Bumblebee. Also wished it was clear coat. So I decieded I would get a that done to one of my Blade v8's and also add a clear cloat over the top.

This is how it came up. I think it would have been nicer if they went with the fade.



I think the v9 cosmetic looks great. Looking forward to trying the frame.
 
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WYK

Hall of Fame
Yep. The regular Blade V8 was pretty sexy looking. The Blade Team? Not so much

The V8 looks like someone left it in a bog for a year. I am so confused why anyone thinks this is sexy.
If I vomited on it, it wouldn't show.

So does anyone have a clear pic of the new one?
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
Man those V4s, NBlade, KBlade sticks were the bomb.
Back when Wilson put some effort into their looks.

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Mircat

Rookie
I love the v8 paint job, but wished the black section didn't have a hard clean line and had a fade like the Head Pro Tour 630 and Head Radical Bumblebee. Also wished it was clear coat. So I decieded I would get a that done to one of my Blade v8's and also add a clear cloat over the top.

This is how it came up. I think it would have been nicer if they went with the fade.



I think the v9 cosmetic looks great. Looking forward to trying the frame.
That’s neat!! I love my Noirs!!
 

Mischko

Professional
My complaint with the v8 paint is that it's very very thin and easy to scratch. Just lowest quality thinnest clear coat possible. Only profit margin matters.

v8 paint consists of a micro thin paint layer - green colour shifting and black part - and a super thin - and soft unfortunately - semi clear coat over it. That clear coat could/should be of significantly higher quality and thickness

Clear coat used on cars is super hard, and on higher end cars it's applied in several layers, so it's proper thick too. Then even if a car gets hit by a small rock there's no scratch, as the clear coat is thick, hard and somewhat elastic

Slightly matte clear coat on last gen Vcore Pros wasn't thin but was very soft, it's much better on Percept and newer Yonexes, and thicker

On Blade v8 clear coat is just both soft and ultra ultra thin. They made it as cheap as they could basically. You touch your racquets against each other, or whatever else, and there's visible traces or scratches immediately

Pro Staff v14 seems slightly better, but it's price is significantly higher as well. Shift has an OK paint quality

On glossy Blade pj prostocks the micron thin paint below is likely the same, but the clear coat is much much better, thicker and harder, besides being glossy. Racquets end up looking more yellow, to my eyes at least. Holding Tsitsi's racquet next to a retail v8 it seemed lighter and more yellow vs darker and more green

And I actually don't mind the semimatte, don't always like when my left hand is slipping on the racquet throat on the one hander, but I'd like it to be of a significantly better quality
 

Airmate

New User
My complaint with the v8 paint is that it's very very thin and easy to scratch. Just lowest quality thinnest clear coat possible. Only profit margin matters.

v8 paint consists of a micro thin paint layer - green colour shifting and black part - and a super thin - and soft unfortunately - semi clear coat over it. That clear coat could/should be of significantly higher quality and thickness

Clear coat used on cars is super hard, and on higher end cars it's applied in several layers, so it's proper thick too. Then even if a car gets hit by a small rock there's no scratch, as the clear coat is thick, hard and somewhat elastic

Slightly matte clear coat on last gen Vcore Pros wasn't thin but was very soft, it's much better on Percept and newer Yonexes, and thicker

On Blade v8 clear coat is just both soft and ultra ultra thin. They made it as cheap as they could basically. You touch your racquets against each other, or whatever else, and there's visible traces or scratches immediately

Pro Staff v14 seems slightly better, but it's price is significantly higher as well. Shift has an OK paint quality

On glossy Blade pj prostocks the micron thin paint below is likely the same, but the clear coat is much much better, thicker and harder, besides being glossy. Racquets end up looking more yellow, to my eyes at least. Holding Tsitsi's racquet next to a retail v8 it seemed lighter and more yellow vs darker and more green

And I actually don't mind the semimatte, don't always like when my left hand is slipping on the racquet throat on the one hander, but I'd like it to be of a significantly better quality
Blade V7 got complains on the heavy Swingweight (around 330 average), therefore for Blade v8, since the mold has no chance on the hoop, the only way to reduce swingweight is to use lighter grommets and thinner paint, which Wilson did, and successfully reduced the stock swingweight.
 

Mischko

Professional
Sorry but that's not how it works

Wilson and any other carbon fibre engineer, change the carbon fibre layup, even if the mould stays the same. Carbon fibre gets redistributed, and if they want to put more or less at the top of the hoop, that's very easy to do
 

Airmate

New User
Sorry but that's not how it works

Wilson and any other carbon fibre engineer, change the carbon fibre layup, even if the mould stays the same. Carbon fibre gets redistributed, and if they want to put more or less at the top of the hoop, that's very easy to do
I know. But the carbon fibre remians no change between V7 and V8...mark my words and go ahead ask anyone in Wilson. Modify any of the carbon fibre layup needs development, time and money. It is very common that brands keeps the same mold and same layup, add something else and make it a new generation racket but only with tiny but change. Think about Blade V6 is Blade V5 + CV...In Blade v7/v8 case, the only new thing is the Direct connect grip, nothing has been changed on the hoop. New Fortyfive on V8 is just a different name of Feelflex on V7 (TW has it written clearly on the description) so that's nothing new. You can easily switch the grommets on V7 and V8, and see the weight difference on their grommets...
 
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Mischko

Professional
It's all possible of course. However having played with both v7 and v8 18x20 they don't feel the same racquet to me. Similar, but not same

Obviously it's just so easy to change a single layer in the layup and change the feel with it, with same flex profile and overall stiffness

Then there's also the physics - if you reduce the bumper weight by 2g, to reduce the avg sw from 335 to 328, and then add those 2g in the iron weight in the handle, racquet balance changes, or the overall static weight goes down

It has also been said that v6 is v5+cv, but just days ago, somewhere here, perhaps even in this thread, a player wrote that he has all of them, v5, v6 and v6.5 - which is supposed to be v5 in v6 paint, and he clearly wrote that they are not the same racquet at all - the v5 and v6.5

Personally I haven't tested them so I don't know. But I very much like v8 18x20 and I didn't really like the v7 18x20

There's also a different point of view - none of the other racquet lines are like that, we can't say that Pro Staffs of different gens are the same racquet - they absolutely aren't, same for Ultras

So why would Wilson risk being shamed or even sued, if it's just so easy for them to make a slight mod in the layup, change the paint and sell it as new gen
 

Airmate

New User
It's all possible of course. However having played with both v7 and v8 18x20 they don't feel the same racquet to me. Similar, but not same

Obviously it's just so easy to change a single layer in the layup and change the feel with it, with same flex profile and overall stiffness

Then there's also the physics - if you reduce the bumper weight by 2g, to reduce the avg sw from 335 to 328, and then add those 2g in the iron weight in the handle, racquet balance changes, or the overall static weight goes down

It has also been said that v6 is v5+cv, but just days ago, somewhere here, perhaps even in this thread, a player wrote that he has all of them, v5, v6 and v6.5 - which is supposed to be v5 in v6 paint, and he clearly wrote that they are not the same racquet at all - the v5 and v6.5

Personally I haven't tested them so I don't know. But I very much like v8 18x20 and I didn't really like the v7 18x20

There's also a different point of view - none of the other racquet lines are like that, we can't say that Pro Staffs of different gens are the same racquet - they absolutely aren't, same for Ultras

So why would Wilson risk being shamed or even sued, if it's just so easy for them to make a slight mod in the layup, change the paint and sell it as new gen
Obviously V7 and V8 feelS different, becuase like I said, V8 has add the Direct Connect, which not only changed the feel of the racket (Since you are holding more Carbon in your hand than before, makes the racket feel stiffer but stable). And that parts affects weigt as well. Also we cannot ignore that Wilson has the worst quaility control...
For your other opinion on the Pro Staffs and Ultras, which are false: Pro Staffs has changed carbon layup through different generations, for example, v14 has Paradiam bending than v13, which changes the flex point of the racket, v13 has a different layup and mold than v12( v13 has new Fortyfive and also a thicker beam), v12 has CV comapring to v11. All of those "new things" are tiny, but changes the feel of the racket significantly; Ultra on the other hand, have 4 different mold, which means they all have different hoop shapes and different throat shapes through all 4 generations...That's why they will feel different in hand.
 

Mischko

Professional
My Blades v7 and v8 are/were all exactly on spec, sw too, although even then QC play a small part

My statement about other Wilson lines means the opposite - they are very different from one gen to another, please reread my post

So my point was, if other Wilson racquet lines change significantly from one gen to another, why would they keep the Blade layup identical?
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
Blade V7 got complains on the heavy Swingweight (around 330 average), therefore for Blade v8, since the mold has no chance on the hoop, the only way to reduce swingweight is to use lighter grommets and thinner paint, which Wilson did, and successfully reduced the stock swingweight.

Absolute nonsense. Pick up any unmodified beautifully shiny pro stock racquet, they all have nearly no swingweight.
 
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WYK

Hall of Fame
Clearly this is a matter of personal preference as IMO this try hard paint job looks as bad a most current Pro Kennex racquets while the V8 in pro gloss especially is one of the more beautiful paint jobs in recent history.

I agree with you. Wilson did not try hard with the current paint job :)
 

Cowboy

Rookie
I know. But the carbon fibre remians no change between V7 and V8...mark my words and go ahead ask anyone in Wilson. Modify any of the carbon fibre layup needs development, time and money. It is very common that brands keeps the same mold and same layup, add something else and make it a new generation racket but only with tiny but change. Think about Blade V6 is Blade V5 + CV...In Blade v7/v8 case, the only new thing is the Direct connect grip, nothing has been changed on the hoop. New Fortyfive on V8 is just a different name of Feelflex on V7 (TW has it written clearly on the description) so that's nothing new. You can easily switch the grommets on V7 and V8, and see the weight difference on their grommets...

So to add swingweight to a v8, one could simply add v7 grommets?
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
I'm a fan of the V8 color shift but the fat wilson slug like script logo near the throat really spoils the clean blade lines.

Are you talking about the Wilson trademark logo? I'm not sure it's fair to consider that part of the design - that is their well known trademark, after all.
 

ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
Blade V7 got complains on the heavy Swingweight (around 330 average), therefore for Blade v8, since the mold has no chance on the hoop, the only way to reduce swingweight is to use lighter grommets and thinner paint, which Wilson did, and successfully reduced the stock swingweight.
The grommets are terrible on the v8, I know they are supposed to green and recycled but they are low quality and flimsy.
 
I love the v8 paint job, but wished the black section didn't have a hard clean line and had a fade like the Head Pro Tour 630 and Head Radical Bumblebee. Also wished it was clear coat. So I decieded I would get a that done to one of my Blade v8's and also add a clear cloat over the top.

This is how it came up. I think it would have been nicer if they went with the fade.



I think the v9 cosmetic looks great. Looking forward to trying the frame.
Great idea! I would also add a faded black part near the throat area like Pro Tours/Bumblebees had
 

kvan

Semi-Pro
Just got a five minute hit with the v9 16x19 in before the strings snapped. Didn’t get to measure specs but felt very similar to my current weighed-up v8 night sessions. Stable and maybe just slightly firmer in the hoop. Paint is great in person.
 

Mircat

Rookie
Just got a five minute hit with the v9 16x19 in before the strings snapped. Didn’t get to measure specs but felt very similar to my current weighed-up v8 night sessions. Stable and maybe just slightly firmer in the hoop. Paint is great in person.
Though a conspiracy theory, I believe the V8 Noirs are V9s. They feel just a tad stiffer. My greens felt more noodle-y.
 
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