Wilson Clash 98 V2 unstrung swingweight?..

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Hello Guys, I am looking to buy a Clash 98 V2, i asked the store to messure specs to have one that matches stock specs but i can t find anithing,

While the stock( strung) swingweight of the Wilson Clash 98 V2 is 327,
what should be the stock swingweight whitout strings?..

I have the specs of 4 different wilson clash s 98 they measured at the local tennis store on a swingweight machine but all 4 have different swingweights,
i must choose one of them but for that i need to know what the UNSTRUNG stock swingweight of the racquet should be.
or is there a way to accurately calculate how much the racquet should be unstring base on the other specs like weight and balance?
This are the specs messured by the tennis store for 4 raquets:
312.2g/312mm
294.5 swing weight

310.6g/307mm
285 swing weight

313.4g/303mm
280 swing weight

312.6g/305mm
282.5 swing weight

Is any of them close to stock specs and therefore will play as it was intended to or should i look in another store?
I would really appreciate any advice.
 
Can't answer your question as such. All I will say is I used the Clash 98 V2 last year for a few months when recovering from a shoulder injury and I was really impressed with it. It didn't get great reviews so my expectations were low, however I really enjoyed playing with it and I think the frame is underrated. Plenty of comfort and control.
 
It also depends on the string thickness, but basically around 30 - 32 SW points is the difference between strung and unstrung on a 16/20 frame.
 
Chilled said:
Can't answer your question as such. All I will say is I used the Clash 98 V2 last year for a few months when recovering from a shoulder injury and I was really impressed with it. It didn't get great reviews so my expectations were low, however I really enjoyed playing with it and I think the frame is underrated. Plenty of comfort and control.
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Yeah.. seems like a great frame, thats why i want to buy it before they are gone, but if i am buying a new raquet i want it to have good stock specs, any idea what your specs were?
 
fritzhimself said:
It also depends on the string thickness, but basically around 30 - 32 SW points is the difference between strung and unstrung on a 16/20 frame.
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mmm.. that would put the unstrung swingweight at 295 mm more or less.., but i am getting mix information.., i ask on the clash video on youtube and Chris from tennis warehouse told me it should be 295 to 300 mm range, then wilson customer service said 305mm..
 
martinrosemaryfuenzalida said:
Yeah.. seems like a great frame, thats why i want to buy it before they are gone, but if i am buying a new raquet i want it to have good stock specs, any idea what your specs were?
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No sorry, just pick up a racket and play is my style. Not sure I am a good enough player to notice small differences in spec to be honest. I liked the string pattern which gives it the good level of control. Suspect it wasn't a big seller as Wilson have dropped the 98 from their current Clash line up which I think is a shame. It was going about 50% cheaper when I purchased mine which again points to the fact that they were struggling to shift them with the V3 on the horizon. In summary I think you will enjoy it even if the specs are not spot on, as in my case it's more about the feel of the frame, but maybe that's just me!! Hope you track one down and enjoy playing with it!!
 
martinrosemaryfuenzalida said:
mmm.. that would put the unstrung swingweight at 295 mm more or less.., but i am getting mix information.., i ask on the clash video on youtube and Chris from tennis warehouse told me it should be 295 to 300 mm range, then wilson customer service said 305mm..
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The SW is not measured in mm - swing weight is given in kg/cm2.

Why are you so focused on the “unstrung SW?”
 
To be fair, don’t think Wilson knows what the “standard” unstrung SW is for any of their tennis racquets, otherwise they’d publish it online and/or on their racquets. lol
 
fritzhimself said:
The SW is not measured in mm - swing weight is given in kg/cm2.

Why are you so focused on the “unstrung SW?”
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you re right, no mm, i got mixed up whit balance.., i am so focus on SW because i want to buy a new clash 98 from the tennis store but i want it whit perfect or close to perfect stock specs, thet have a swingweight machine and can messure it so i need to know what the SW of this raquet is supposed to be..
 
esm said:
To be fair, don’t think Wilson knows what the “standard” unstrung SW is for any of their tennis racquets, otherwise they’d publish it online and/or on their racquets. lol
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Yeah.. this is so weird.., , I contacted WIlson customer service, this is their reply:
"To help you out, we have contacted our support department, and unfortunately, we do not publish a set specification swingweight for our rackets as this is something that can change slightly due to the tolerance we have with overall weight and balance.
On average, the unstrung swingweight would be approximately 305 grams.
As a recommendation, if you have been sent several swingweights by the company, it would be better if you select the swingweight that you need; that way, the racket can be sent slightly tailored to what you are looking for"

i asked Tennis Warehouse on their youtube Clash 98 video, they said: "295 to 300 range unstrung.", on a second inquiry the said:

"Our playtest racquet was in that sort 295 ish unstrung swingweight spec. It is sort of tough, because Wilson doesn't really post an exact swingweight for a target like some brands do. We are basing our number off of an average, but maybe a small batch. So I wouldn't really think of what is a right or wrong swingweight spec, but look at it more like, what do you want? 294 SW unstrung will be close to the spec that we tested at TW, but the 285 SW will be close to 315 strung, which is pretty average, or borderline maneuverable for most players. What swingweight do you like? That is more the question, not so much what is it supposed to be in this case because Wilson doesn't list SW, in their spec table; Prince does, Babolat does on their website, and I think Tecnifibre is starting to. Hope that helps, Troy TW"

I find it so weird that Wilson would not know what swingweight they are aiming at in their raquets.. like.., how would they know what kind of raquet they want to make if they neglect such a basic thing as SW.., i suppose they must know but for some weir reason they don t tell the public like other brands do.

So i am left whit two different estimates: from 295 to 300 according to TW and.. 305 according to Wilson. from one extreme: 295 to the other: 305 is a 10 points SW difference, i am guessing that would make a noticeable difference.., I guess i should aims for the middle ground: 300SW..
 
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rizoto said:
Generally. QC has improved.
No one talks about the accuracy of the measurement done on this forum
at the end, it doesn't matter to much because most of us are not that good at tennis....
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But the point of the OP is that Wilson themselves does not know what their “standard” unstrung SW is, “considering” their questionable QC… lol.
SW and TW has always been a mystery and luckily we now have access to the Briffidi SW/TW devices to be able to measure for our own entertainment…
 
I have no idea why the OP is making such a fuss just to ask for the SW.
Take the one with the lowest SW and with lead you can tune up to your best SW.
What's the problem there?
 
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fritzhimself said:
I have no idea why the OP is making such a fuss just to ask for the SW.
Take the one with the lowest SW and with lead you can tune up to your best SW.
What's the problem there?
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Who s making such a fuss.., i am just asking questions. no i don t want to customize, i want it stock and whit perfect or near perfect specs. one should be able to get one s money s worth..
 
fritzhimself said:
I have no idea why the OP is making such a fuss just to ask for the SW.
Take the one with the lowest SW and with lead you can tune up to your best SW.
What's the problem there?
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He isn't after 'his' best SW, he is after the intended manufacturer specs and weight distribution, which is fine imo. Not everone is into Customizing or doesnt what to get lost in the djungle of it.
 
_FrankTheTank_ said:
He isn't after 'his' best SW, he is after the intended manufacturer specs and weight distribution, which is fine imo. Not everone is into Customizing or doesnt what to get lost in the djungle of it.
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But if they don't have an exact SW, but a spreading like a manure spreader, he has to choose one at some point, if he still feels like it.
 
I'm agreeing with Fritzhimself. Knowing a frame's unstrung spec SW is good as a filter, but irrelevant since strings make a difference. What the buyer should be concerned with is the strung SW since that is what they will be playing with. Same with strung balance and mass. The really bad assumption is that manufacturers will hit their specs a majority of the time. If they are lucky, they could get them, but it's unlikely. I would rather err on the errors below specs since those can be bought up to your playing specs. OP should ask the sellers to give him frames only with X SW, Y mass and Z balance. OP will not get many replies. If the request is less than X, Y and Z, there may be more replies.
 
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