1HBHfanatic
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i think its going to replace the burn series,, but who knows,,
the post above said it looked good
another separate post said it looked decent
very little leak info on that front
Wilson Clash: New mould or old frame re-done?
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the post above said it looked good
another separate post said it looked decent
very little leak info on that front
Geoff
Hall of Fame
The Clash will be sold unstrung with no specs whatsoever. In my opinion the Clash is not string sensitive or tension sensitive. It will be personal preference.
Geoff
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You will have no trouble distinguishing the Clash from the red and black Pro Staff 97 version 2.0!
IowaGuy
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When you say "no specs whatsoever," do you mean that there won't be a recommended tension range?
I'm sure I'll still be able to tell them apart, I'm just skeptical that that was the best choice of color scheme, especially if they are sticking with the same basic design.
Roey Tabet
New User
there you go, the new Wilson clash !
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IowaGuy
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I wouldn't figure Dzumhur would be Wilson's posterboy for the Clash?!?
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Brand New mold!
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jmacdaununder2
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A ham sandwich is better than complete happiness, because nothing is better than complete happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing...
I think that is a Yonex SV 98, old cosmetic.
IowaGuy
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One of Dzumhur's Instagram commentors said Clash, but that person might have been trolling...
teachingprotx
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Anyone know the RA yet ? Very low could mean 59 to like 39 ?
I’m sure it’s leaning toward the top end I hope not though !
I’m sure it’s leaning toward the top end I hope not though !
teachingprotx
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And yes I’ve played with very thick head power wedge rackets that were really quite flexy like the old rust red head stick from the genesis Polaris days... the head Discovery I think was it’s name?
dr. godmode
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Mine came out at 52. I heard the rep said its supposed to be 49. Saw another measured at 57, claiming it was supposed to be 55 (i think)
Hope it's not due to Wilson's QC.
Does RDC's stiffness read-out vary with string tensions / types / gauges?
NuBas
Legend
Thats all over the place
teachingprotx
Legend
I’m confused
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
1) different strings and tensions can have (small) effects on strung stiffness.
2) the margin in flex tends to be somewhat large. That’s the same for all producers though I’d wager, even those who speak of strict tolerances mention balance and weight only if you’ve noticed. I think (not sure) Angell is an exception in that regard
2) the margin in flex tends to be somewhat large. That’s the same for all producers though I’d wager, even those who speak of strict tolerances mention balance and weight only if you’ve noticed. I think (not sure) Angell is an exception in that regard
ron schaap
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Beats me that forum members seem so enthusiastic about playing with wet noodles.
teachingprotx
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I’m one of them . But I’m one of the minute few that like em wet and soft and noodley but also light under 11oz . That is a racket that has never ever been made .only for the pros to platform . Or for the junior tennis racket market . One of the best hitting rackets I’ve ever hit with is the volkl tour 93 mid junior 26. 41 RA felt more like 50 Ra so really nice soft but not like a wood.. weight was 9.7 oz I think
I put on a leather which made it more head light . Mmm man it’s a great hit. My clients loved it too. But it’s
Like finding hens teeth with the 93 head size the was another option at 98 sq in head , but it didn’t hit near as good . But I digress . I never ever thought acimoaby had enough balls to give the main public a light and flexible racket all in one and make it HEAD LIGHT TO BOOT! But hopefully the clash will be 10.6-8 oz and with a al dente wet noodle ! But I doubt it will happen I can see them staying safely in the 50.s RA not the daring 40,s ra ! Be wilson BLX Bold ! And have it wilsonTHE Clash with the norm !
I put on a leather which made it more head light . Mmm man it’s a great hit. My clients loved it too. But it’s
Like finding hens teeth with the 93 head size the was another option at 98 sq in head , but it didn’t hit near as good . But I digress . I never ever thought acimoaby had enough balls to give the main public a light and flexible racket all in one and make it HEAD LIGHT TO BOOT! But hopefully the clash will be 10.6-8 oz and with a al dente wet noodle ! But I doubt it will happen I can see them staying safely in the 50.s RA not the daring 40,s ra ! Be wilson BLX Bold ! And have it wilsonTHE Clash with the norm !
teachingprotx
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I think it’s because some folks want to swing fast and have it go in a lot without having to hit with massive upward swings to keep them inBeats me that forum members seem so enthusiastic about playing with wet noodles.
Plus it’s a nice feeling when you can crack a flattie one handed backhand and still have it go in the court . Not that it’s impossibke with say a pure drive but the margin for error is a bit higher unless you can add an element of side, slice or top spin to it
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Wilson is going to C lash in on new racquet in mid February!
teachingprotx
Legend
Yeah boy! Ra 40,s please !,,, !Wilson is going to Clash in on new racquet in mid February!
teachingprotx
Legend
I do hip it’s one or the other with the RA thing l
Either both with a very low RA that feels low translates low on ball strike impact . Or one is in the boring low 60’s RA and the other wildly daring and bold low RA !
Either both with a very low RA that feels low translates low on ball strike impact . Or one is in the boring low 60’s RA and the other wildly daring and bold low RA !
teachingprotx
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I’m excited man! This really could be fun if it’s done right !
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
Hopefully they aren't using low quality graphite to produce a low RA. If they do what Bab did for the Pure Controls, where they implement low density weaves, we could see loads of cracked Clashes
TennisTodd
New User
RA's differ based on machines (no way to calibrate over time) and string tension. Reliable RA's I have seen are between 49 and 52...
teachingprotx
Legend
I didn’t know that ! Wow really ?
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
A quick search should show that Pure Storms/Control cracked a lot. Not totally sure if this is due to low density weave or just a weak mold. I'm no chemist, but I'm under the impression that higher quality carbonfibre usually yields more stiffness, as is desirable for most applications (e.g. racing).
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Well sometimes that's about all you've got left on offer...Beats me that forum members seem so enthusiastic about playing with wet noodles.
ron schaap
Hall of Fame
The pure controls, at least the older ones with kevlar, aint soft noodles and they dont just crack. Only my Zylon Bab cracked. I dont understand this Babolat bashing, because its French and Wilson is American?
America first? Are you still Trump fans .
ron schaap
Hall of Fame
I m not that interested in flat hitting. Even if you wanted you could not get topspin with the Clash according to the young testers that are quoted earlier. Furthermore there is a huge string selection if you opt for contro your with your current racquet. Which is a much cheaper solution then buying new racquets.I think it’s because some folks want to swing fast and have it go in a lot without having to hit with massive upward swings to keep them in
Plus it’s a nice feeling when you can crack a flattie one handed backhand and still have it go in the court . Not that it’s impossibke with say a pure drive but the margin for error is a bit higher unless you can add an element of side, slice or top spin to it
1HBHfanatic
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i think/hope wilson learn their lesson from the first ultras
plus all the hype they put out on this racquet line, it really would be a shame if they got it wrong this time
Karma Tennis
Legend
I don't think that is exactly what the Boys said. I think they said THEY didn't get as much topspin as they did with their own racquets (Blades?). Their videos indicate that they were certainly producing topspin. Perhaps they would need an adjustment period to reach the levels they get with their existing sticks.
The Clash probably isn't going to produce Pure Aero levels of spin potential but a lot of players don't want or need those levels.
The point is, don't rule anything out until you have personally demoed the racquet with your string configuration of choice yourself.
TennisHound
Legend
Well, not everyone is crazy about wet noodles. Head Graphene racquets are a perfect example of making a flexy racquet wrong. Have you ever tried to weight up or hit with the XT Speed Rev Pro? Not a good experience. There's a reason that racquets aren't made out of rubber or solid plastic. I believe there is a limit to where a racquet is too flexible. (and that limit is . . . 69RA, jk lol).Beats me that forum members seem so enthusiastic about playing with wet noodles.
Sorry but not enough topspin out of a racket? Its not the racket, its a lack of good tecnique!!! Dont blame the frame! I even get a lot of topspin when I play with wooden rackets!
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dr. godmode
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I tested the racquet strung with oldish NXT 16 and I was shocked at the spin I was getting out of the nylon. Usually I play full poly, and it could be the launch angle deceiving me here, but the spin seemed close to as good as the new PA strung freshly with Lynx
Karma Tennis
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That's great that you can get a lot of topspin with wooden racquets. Bjorn Borg used to as well.
Guess what? You would get significantly greater topspin using your exact same technique using a wooden racquet that was strung with the spaghetti stringing method. The extra RPMs would have nothing to do with your technique and everything to do with the equipment.
There is no doubt, that in most circumstances, stroke technique is the most significant contributer to RPM generation. However, certain equipment configurations can also add significant RPMS - according to guys like Rod Cross and Crawford Lindsay up to an extra 20%.
You just missed the point [emoji1749][emoji3603]
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Karma Tennis
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Someone send this guy a Wilson Steam 99S !!!
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Karma Tennis
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Yeah, Thanks for that Robin.
What I really want to know is ...
How the heck did you beat Rafa at Roland Garros and then lose to Roger in the Final there?
That was certainly a case where Karma was a biatch for you. LOL.
This says enough about you.
Your a waste of time. 2nd gregory diamond..[emoji1749][emoji3603]
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Karma Tennis
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So you think you are the only High Level Coach (and customiser!) on these boards? And you think you are the only person on these boards that plays with PT57As and H19s?
IME, those here who really ARE High Level Tennis Coaches and Racquet Technicians don't need to convince anyone else. Given the tone of some of your posts, and the profanity you use, I feel sympathy for anyone who has engaged you as a Tennis coach.
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The outlook of Wilson Clash is somewhat like Artengo TR960 Precision.
https://www.artengo.co.uk/tr-960-precision-adult-tennis-racket-whitered-id_8390977
https://www.artengo.co.uk/tr-960-precision-adult-tennis-racket-whitered-id_8390977
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
1990's Graphite
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You could be right! some similarities in the design... a lot of people enjoy this precision model, maybe the design has something to do with it, like the clash. This one is 68ra though.
aimr75
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yes those are the colours
