Karma Tennis
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Is the red a bright red like the previous gen standard Pro Staff?
Or is it a more vivid red (more orangey) like the Burn?
Wilson Clash: New mould or old frame re-done?
- Thread starter gino
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Is the red a bright red like the previous gen standard Pro Staff?
Or is it a more vivid red (more orangey) like the Burn?
SeeItHitIt
Professional
The old fashioned way: through a compromise of both.
aimr75
Hall of Fame
More bright red
ludde
Rookie
main color red >black>grey ?
1HBHfanatic
Legend
i can now confirm, the 3 color combo is it!!. tnx
got to see it last week also
w.rep had the demo one and the final color one in his bag,,
i did not bother asking for a pic, because the answer would be no,, they are keeping it pretty close to the chest until release date..
one interesting find, the demos of the clash he was given, had his name inside the throat piece,, which is cool, custom demo class for him..
1HBHfanatic
Legend
main color is blackmain color red >black>grey ?
black handle, black throat, flat grey sides (3/9 areas),, redish/orange top area from 2-8 areas,, with the black grommets throughout
aimr75
Hall of Fame
i can now confirm, the 3 color combo is it!!. tnx
got to see it last week also
w.rep had the demo one and the final color one in his bag,,
i did not bother asking for a pic, because the answer would be no,, they are keeping it pretty close to the chest until release date..
one interesting find, the demos of the clash he was given, had his name inside the throat piece,, which is cool, custom demo class for him..
I only have a photo of it. I haven’t seen it in hand.
fritzhimself
Professional
Karma Tennis
Legend
Does it have a gloss or matte finish?
Is the paint work the same over the whole hairpin? Or is like the Pro Staff that had a velvety paint in some areas and a gloss finish in others?
Is the paint work the same over the whole hairpin? Or is like the Pro Staff that had a velvety paint in some areas and a gloss finish in others?
aimr75
Hall of Fame
Looks like gloss for the entire frame
1HBHfanatic
Legend
if i can recall correct, its a mix of both, like the ps you mentioned
couple things i did not like
1- no specs on the racquet, i looked!, and asked!,,
2- the grommets where a bit small for the racquet (the reps. demo clash was already getting scratched at top),
but anyway, its a must demo racquet when it comes out
a flexible/thick-beam/light racquet just begs to be swung big.. fun racquet..
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
The red is more of an "orange red" then a true red!
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
I think it's a good idea to be able to make a powerful modern frame like a PD or APD but with a low RA. It's something that Yonex managed to do with their DR 98 frame and I believe they were on to something.
What they were saying with the DR is, " We can make a powerful racquet without the arm jarring experience", and quite a few players have switched to this racquet. If Wilson can get it right it could further complete this story.
What they were saying with the DR is, " We can make a powerful racquet without the arm jarring experience", and quite a few players have switched to this racquet. If Wilson can get it right it could further complete this story.
Karma Tennis
Legend
The frame looks very "Collegiate" to me.
I think it is ruined by the standard Black Bumper guard and grommet strips though. Would have looked a lot more prestigious with bumper guards and grommet strips that were the same colour as the frame in the same vicinity.
I think it is ruined by the standard Black Bumper guard and grommet strips though. Would have looked a lot more prestigious with bumper guards and grommet strips that were the same colour as the frame in the same vicinity.
Karma Tennis
Legend
@Crocodile, why do you think the DR 98 is a powerful frame?
IME the DR is a Wet Noodle in comparison to the EZones, SVs, and current VCores. Most players I know who use Yonex racquets all seem to say they can generate much heavier balls using other Yonex models. The DR98 seems to be much more of a control and feel based frame compared to he rest.
In saying this, I cannot grasp the idea that a soft flexible frame can ever have the same Depth potential (some people call it Power potential, but I see the two things as being very different) as a stiffer frame with all other things being equal. A flexible frame always absorbs more of the kinetic energy of the incoming ball and returns less to it as it launches it back out of the string bed.
Perhaps Wilson is doing something clever to alter the stiffness of the frame depending on where the ball impacts the string bed and how heavy that impact is. But then one cannot say whether the racquet is flexible or stiff, because that will change depending on the various factors in play.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
I'm not suggesting that the DR is a powerful racquet at the same level as an APD, but what I am seeing here in my neck of the woods, is PD and APD players with sensitive arms looking at the DR as a softer alternative. The superseded SV was closer to the Babolat but same issues. Therefore what Wilson I believe are doing is to come up with something that has lot of the modern characteristics but without the stiffness. You have to remember that many of the pro stock versions of the APD and PD have much lower RA's and higher weights and it's those who only have access to retail frames get the stiffer frames.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
While I haven't had a close look ( might pop down to the Sydney Int) but I would imagine that Wilson would be starting to show this racquet on TV to get exposure before they get released Feb 15. I have spoken to people who have seen the final paint job so maybe at the OZ open it will be there.
Karma Tennis
Legend
The players with sensitive arms that you refer to. Are they using stock retail PDs and APDs? Have any of them customised their racquets to mitigate any potential health issues?
For sure, if Wilson can produce a Retail racquet that shares similar characteristics to a PD / APD but is also a lot "softer", I would imagine it will be onto a winner, especially for Intermediate Level players.
proracketeer
Professional
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Nobody customises. They buy a frame, put some string in there that lasts, and wait until it breaks.
Even customised these frames aren't comfy.
Karma Tennis
Legend
Depends on the player and the customiser I suppose.
It might not be possible to get PDs or APDs to uber comfort levels, but you can certainly make them a lot more comfortable than they are out of the box.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
They're not comfortable frames, even on a market with many uncomfortable frames.
They're usually ok for players with great form and contact - that's not your average rec player
1HBHfanatic
Legend
do you see the gromets, how small they seem for that racquet?! i wish they covered the edges of the frame a bit more, and truly protect the racquet,,
babolats have this same issue
cork_screw
Hall of Fame
Thanks for throwing on those zorro black bands around their eyes. Your disguise trick is one of the best. Nobody can tell who they are.
Wilson announced a new series today, Clash.
They've gone through many naming conventions for the 98-105 headsize player's frame in recent years.
A few come to mind: pro open series, juice series, burn series, steam series, ultra series, etc.... most of which have been extremely gimmicky in design, cosmetic, and marketing strategy..
I personally thought they might stick with the ultra this time. It has a clever name, good cosmetic, and a fantastic mould. Would be a bummer if they moved away from it.
Anyone have intel on the Wilson Clash? Could it be a disguised 6.1?!!?!?!?
Wilson Clash on Instagram
Karma Tennis
Legend
WOW, when did Rafa move across to Wilson?
More importantly, when did Rafa switch to a Single Handed Back Hand?
Karma Tennis
Legend
Yes, well I do spend most of my time around players with excellent tennis form and tennis stroke technique. Very few complaints about Babolat "stiffness".
But then most of them have also nailed the right racquet specs and string combinations to suit their games and minimise their chances of tennis related arm injuries.
Moonarse
Semi-Pro
I can't stand this rubbery PJ's from Wilson. The whole Wilson line is not as appealling to me as, lets say, Yonex and Prince, but I think I would get along with some of their Frames quite awright.
But with this velvet/Rubber PJ I can't get any close to them. Really looking forward for the next Gen to be glossy again.
But with this velvet/Rubber PJ I can't get any close to them. Really looking forward for the next Gen to be glossy again.
proracketeer
Professional
red triangle
Karma Tennis
Legend
The Velvet / Rubber is simple to remove from the racquet if you really want to.
10sGearHead
New User
Details on Rakuten - https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/racket/item/wil-wr005711/
gino
Legend
looooool
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
That’s like The Fischer Vacuum Pro 90. The bumper guard did not cover the width of the head.
FedGR
Professional
I recently got a Clash with the Dazzle paint job. Got to hit with it yesterday for about 1 hour. First impressions, it is a very fun racket. Lots of spin and power, easy to swing, big sweetspot and very plush and comfy. I am not experienced with bigger headsize rackets as I mostly play with 95-98 but the Clash definitely reminded me of a softer version of the Blade 104 and the G360 Speed MP.
Need to play more with it to have a more accurate opinion.
Need to play more with it to have a more accurate opinion.
FedGR
Professional
Update: after 1 more hour of hitting, I feel that the racket needs some added lead to not be pushed around. I had trouble dialing in my slices but that could just be because it's a new racket/string setup.
On my groundstrokes I felt I had good accuracy and depth and even though the racket is very soft, it also provides a nice crisp ball pocketing feeling.
On my groundstrokes I felt I had good accuracy and depth and even though the racket is very soft, it also provides a nice crisp ball pocketing feeling.
Karma Tennis
Legend
FedGR
Professional
@Karma Tennis It is indeed Hyper G 1.2 strung at 50# . I am mostly an Alu Power/Rough and TB soft guy so I need to restring the racket with these to get a better feel for it.
PaintTheLines
New User
Agreed
