Wilson Clash string setup and at what tension

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ericg

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I plan on trying out the new Clash and was wondering what type of string and tension would go well with this racket. I’m a 65 yo 4.0 currently playing with the new Pure Aero and RPM Blast 17g @52lbs
 
ericg said:
I plan on trying out the new Clash and was wondering what type of string and tension would go well with this racket. I’m a 65 yo 4.0 currently playing with the new Pure Aero and RPM Blast 17g @52lbs
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Why not try out the new Clash with the same strings to get a good comparison of the two racquets?
Why the move from the PA to the Clash? 55RA? That RPM Blast can be an arm killer. Lots of information from a seasoned 4.0 playing with RPM -->Calling @ByeByePoly
 
Just not loving the new PA and have developed a little shoulder prob over the last year from a long demo with a Pure Strike. I’ll try the clash with the RPM Blast at 50lbs as I still have a reel. I’ve also got quite a few packs of XOne and was wondering how that would play. Just concerned the access to spin will be more difficult. So the move is because I sold my old Pure Aeros thinking the new one wouldn’t be any different but I just can’t connect with it and find it lower powered than the last edition. So I’m hoping for a nice low flex racket with good power and being more arm friendly than my PA..btw the arm probs was from the Pure Strike strung with Signum Pro...the RPM Blast has never bothered my arm amazingly enough.
 
I ordered the Clash Tour and I plan on stringing it with Luxilon Alu Power at 50lbs. From my understanding, the Clash is better strung at lower tensions than high.
 
I have tried at least 2-3 on the prototype which was of the Tour version an loved it with a Gut/poly blend of wilson gut/lux alu power.

Gives me plenty of plow through so even at a higherntenion I feel that even with a poly/multi blend it would still.be amazingly comfortable.

Since you're trying out new things... check out the Luxilon Smart String I had a chance to string one up and the feed back was amazing for a full bed at low tension. I could imagine even better kn a hybrid
 
Thanks for the info. I will for sure try the Lux Smart at a low tension. When you say low you mean like 50lbs or even lower. Click above likes the 4g at 44lbs. I’m in new territory with low tensions, but imagine it’s just trial and error to see what works best. Really great advice tho !
 
ericg said:
Thanks for the info. I will for sure try the Lux Smart at a low tension. When you say low you mean like 50lbs or even lower. Click above likes the 4g at 44lbs. I’m in new territory with low tensions, but imagine it’s just trial and error to see what works best. Really great advice tho !
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The best way to approach low tension is to just do it. Adjust your swing a little in order to get depth dialed in. Do go into your session with a “I know this is lower than I’ve ever gone so I expect everything to go out” mentality.
 
ericg said:
I plan on trying out the new Clash and was wondering what type of string and tension would go well with this racket. I’m a 65 yo 4.0 currently playing with the new Pure Aero and RPM Blast 17g @52lbs
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i would try the clash with the new string thats coming out at the same time
the luxilon smart @52lbs
i would also consider trying the clash with b.rpm at 44lbs,, as @cluckcluck said, you have to try it,, plus wilson recommends stringing the wilson clash at low tensions, FullBed.poly will work comfortably at 44lbs

after i wrote this, i read your post a #12,, i guess were thinking alike, haaa
 
cluckcluck said:
Yes. Might as well. The spacing between strings is ample.
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Unfortunately the local tennis shops don’t have the 4G..they have the different types of Alu and Element. They also have Solinco, Yonex and Babolat. Possibly I can get some 4G when a friend comes over to visit. Btw I live in Bangkok so can get a lot but not everything.
 
I tried a couple different setups with the Clash Tour Playtest. I only do full poly. I use Solinco Hyper g17 @ 56 currently with the Clash Tour. Tried my usual 48pds but felt the ball fly a bit on me. When I used Alu Power at 52 it felt great. But I am going to try 4 G next, I think the stiffer the poly the lower you can go with the tension. Just my opinion.
 
I use gut/poly (Vs/Revolve) in my Clash Tour with 53/51. Great combo and tension. I think you have to string low the clash, especially with poly.
 
My Clash Tour arrives on Monday, I already have a few packs of Alu Powers and I’m so tempered to string it with that. I ordered the Luxilon Smart String and that comes in the next day (Tuesday). Patience is a virtue right. :sneaky:
 
Sounds like a good lineup of prospects to try. I’ll for sure be interested in how the different playtests went. I’m going to try the non tour racket first to see how that is. It’s a bit light for me but I’m willing to forget that and go in open minded. I’ll try the smart string when I can get some brought over to me at some point
 
Smittithekitty said:
I have tried at least 2-3 on the prototype which was of the Tour version an loved it with a Gut/poly blend of wilson gut/lux alu power.

Gives me plenty of plow through so even at a higherntenion I feel that even with a poly/multi blend it would still.be amazingly comfortable.

Since you're trying out new things... check out the Luxilon Smart String I had a chance to string one up and the feed back was amazing for a full bed at low tension. I could imagine even better kn a hybrid
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What tension did you use on the Gut/poly?

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I played with it at 48lbs with Luxilon Smart String and it was like a slingshot. I highly recommend getting it strung at a higher tension.
 
Olympus.tgr said:
What tension did you use on the Gut/poly?
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I use VS Team/Revolve with 53/51 in the Tour Version. Perfect for me , 53 lbs sounds low for gut but plays great in this flex frame.
Yesterday, I tried VS Team/Cream with 53/51 in the non Tour Version(289g) ( +Tourna Pro Ge Basis Grip, 4g lead total 3+9, 323g ready to play)
I did not like it, unplayable for me, after ten minutes I changed to the Tour Version with VS/Revolve.
Today, I restrung the cross into Revolve 16 and try again the non Tour Version.
 
I demoed the regular Clash twice with Luxilon 4G at 50lbs and it felt good so you could try that, but I also demoed the Tour with Luxilon Smart at 50lbs and it felt 10 times better for my game. I prefer heavier racquets and the Tour feels more stable to me. I just bought a Tour strung with Hyper G at 50lbs so I'll let you know how that compares to the Smart. I like the bite you get from Hyper G and it's not an extremely stiff poly in my opinion. I used to play natural gut in mains of my old racquet with Hyper G's in crosses at 48lbs and it feels amazing, but that was Volkl PB Mid 10 stick and Hyper G chews through gut or multifiliment quick so if money isn't an issue that is a nice mix. In terms of how the Smart plays, it has an interesting feel, it's kind of springy and my arm didn't hurt at all after 1hr of intense hitting with a pro. I actually liked the Smart and hoping I like Hyper G in the Tour more. I've spoken to some players and they said their arms, shoulders, etc., haven't hurt even with full beds of poly in the Clash so I think you can get away with stiffer strings in the Clash due to how flexible and soft it is. I'm 5.0 level.
 
PaintTheLines said:
I demoed the regular Clash twice with Luxilon 4G at 50lbs and it felt good so you could try that, but I also demoed the Tour with Luxilon Smart at 50lbs and it felt 10 times better for my game. I prefer heavier racquets and the Tour feels more stable to me. I just bought a Tour strung with Hyper G at 50lbs so I'll let you know how that compares to the Smart. I like the bite you get from Hyper G and it's not an extremely stiff poly in my opinion. I used to play natural gut in mains of my old racquet with Hyper G's in crosses at 48lbs and it feels amazing, but that was Volkl PB Mid 10 stick and Hyper G chews through gut or multifiliment quick so if money isn't an issue that is a nice mix. In terms of how the Smart plays, it has an interesting feel, it's kind of springy and my arm didn't hurt at all after 1hr of intense hitting with a pro. I actually liked the Smart and hoping I like Hyper G in the Tour more. I've spoken to some players and they said their arms, shoulders, etc., haven't hurt even with full beds of poly in the Clash so I think you can get away with stiffer strings in the Clash due to how flexible and soft it is. I'm 5.0 level.
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How is hyper g holding up?
 
Wikky said:
Just wanted to comment on lux smart, this poly was designed to play between 40-48lbs regardless of string pattern. Anything over will change the tensile pattern that the technology is designed to play around.
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I strung my Clash Tour at 48lbs and it played like a trampoline. Almost made me think I made a mistake with purchasing the racquet. I had it restrung with Alu Power and it plays wonderfully now. I know it’s fesifned and supposedly engineered to be low tension string, but DO NOT recommend using a low tension with Alu Smart.
 
TagUrIt said:
I strung my Clash Tour at 48lbs and it played like a trampoline. Almost made me think I made a mistake with purchasing the racquet. I had it restrung with Alu Power and it plays wonderfully now. I know it’s fesifned and supposedly engineered to be low tension string, but DO NOT recommend using a low tension with Alu Smart.
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Chris said in the TW Vlog that Smart is his favourite string now and he strung it at 35lbs.
 
I am playing with softer poly, X-Perience, as stiffer strings like RPM Blast killed my arm in stiff frames. I am wondering if the Clash will allow for use of the stiffer polys and still ensure we don't get arm issues? For now, I have one frame strung at 48 and the other at 55/53 to see what the difference is (raining so have not tried the higher tension frame yet). I have lots of sets of strings I have not used as they are stiff but maybe it would be safe to use them in this frame?

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Holdfast44ID said:
I am playing with softer poly, X-Perience, as stiffer strings like RPM Blast killed my arm in stiff frames. I am wondering if the Clash will allow for use of the stiffer polys and still ensure we don't get arm issues? For now, I have one frame strung at 48 and the other at 55/53 to see what the difference is (raining so have not tried the higher tension frame yet). I have lots of sets of strings I have not used as they are stiff but maybe it would be safe to use them in this frame?

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im finding that if you strings polys low enough, they will work for your arm and raket
challenge is finding the goldee-lock zone for you and your raket
with stiff polys, dont worry about venturing into the 30lb ranges,,
polys feel good in the 30s on long strokes, but volleys are a struggle with that trampoline tension (a bit of a trade off!!,, who needs to volley anyway,, haaa. joke),

lots of people i know and myself included are playing in the 40lb range now, unheard of about 5 to 10 years ago
now adays, you even have "wilson" recomending that the clash be strung in the 40lb range for the w.clash rakets,,
some poeple will like i, some wont
it all depends on the player
 
1HBHfanatic said:
im finding that if you strings polys low enough, they will work for your arm and raket
challenge is finding the goldee-lock zone for you and your raket
with stiff polys, dont worry about venturing into the 30lb ranges,,
polys feel good in the 30s on long strokes, but volleys are a struggle with that trampoline tension (a bit of a trade off!!,, who needs to volley anyway,, haaa. joke),

lots of people i know and myself included are playing in the 40lb range now, unheard of about 5 to 10 years ago
now adays, you even have "wilson" recomending that the clash be strung in the 40lb range for the w.clash rakets,,
some poeple will like i, some wont
it all depends on the player
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Yes. I have been doing this. Stringing in the upper 40's when I used a Pure Strike. However, I am wondering if the flexibility of the clash will negate the stiffness of strings like RPM Blast in the 50's? I would definitely string in the 40's for stiff frames but I want to at least test the Clash in the 50's to see if I get more feel and control without jarring my arm. I have reels of my go to soft poly but have many sets of stiffer poly I have been storing over the years. Wish the weather would get better in my area. Only hit once in the last few months.

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I have played with the Clash regular, strung with Luxilon Savage black at 24Kg and I've found it strung too tight.
Would prefer the string at 21 kg..

Great racket on the volleys, serve, slice.
Due to string tension little problem getting enough depth on the ball.
 
Clash Tour with Weiss Ultra Cable @ 52. Softer flex can take higher tensioned poly. 4.5 coming from Burn Countervail.

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I strung my Clash at 51lbs with Yonex Poly Tour Spin G and it felt to powerful. Then I strung it with Signum Pro Yellow Jacket at 55lbs and it didn't have the same plow through as I am used.
I have restrung it with some Solinco Unreleased at 52 lbs and will see how it works out.
 
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I posted my string experience with the Clash Tour in the "Official Clash" thread. I've quoted it below.

Since posting that I've logged another 5 hours (almost 15 hours total) on the Kev/ZXP setup and all continues to be well. Predictable power, control, great spin, and great comfort. I realize this hybrid and my selected tensions aren't for everyone but as a person with moderate+ GE that resolved about a year ago (after 6-7 mos!), I've kept my elbow completely healthy playing 5-6 times per week with this string setup. Kev/ZX is also optimal if you string yourself or at least pre-stretch the string before giving it to your stringer.

TypeRx said:
I've tamed the Clash Tour!!

So, I've played with the Clash Tour for a total of 25 hours now. First 8 hours were with a TW demo that had Wilson Sensation 16 at 55 lbs. It was a new stick, so the string bed was fresh. I loved the muted feel of the Clash Tour from the first hit and against the machine was able to generate great spin, good control, power when I wanted it, and didn't have anything really negative to say. However, when I transitioned to match play I wasn't as comfortable really hitting out on groundstrokes as some would trampoline and sail. The demo period ended and I was interested in the racket with different string setups, so I bought one.

So, post-demo in the stick that I bought, I started with Volkl Cyclone 17g at 50 lbs. I have plenty of experience with this string at this tension in several other rackets. I figured it would help de-power things and add a touch more spin. I played 8 hours (all match play) with the Cyclone and, overall, it greatly improved my ability to swing out, added a bit more spin (but less than I expected), and still retained comfort...but...there was still some trampoline action. Unfortunately, this trampoline-effect was enough that I still wasn't confident hitting out at times and I actually went back to my old racket/string setup (Volkl VS8-315 with Kevlar/Monogut ZXP at 75/45 lbs) at times.

Before deciding that I was done with the Clash Tour, I decided to cut out the Cyclone and try a familiar string setup....Ashway Kevlar 17g and Ashaway Monogut ZX Pro Black at 75 lbs / 45 lbs. I pre-stretched and strung it up as I normally do. I have now put 9+ hours (match play) on the Kev/ZXP and it is a great fit for the Clash Tour and my game. Spin is noticeably better than with Cyclone, both visually and also based on opponent comments ("hitting a much heavier ball than usual..."). But most importantly, the racket is now tamed and I can swing out whenever I want and still be able to control things. Because of the ZXP, I still get great "free power" on hard serve returns, overheads, and serves. Volleys are great with this racket IMO, and that continues with this string setup. Touch (particularly for droppers) is one downside of Kev/ZXP based on my experience with this setup in other rackets. However, in the Clash Tour I no longer have that complaint. I think the frame flex may give just enough dwell time to give me back the touch I felt I lost in stiffer frames. Finally, comfort is really excellent, with absolutely no wrist/arm/elbow soreness or stiffness. And based on the limited wear I've seen so far, I believe I will get at least 20-25 hours out of this stringing.

:cool:
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TypeRx said:
First 8 hours were with a TW demo that had Wilson Sensation 16 at 55 lbs.

Since posting that I've logged another 5 hours (almost 15 hours total) on the Kev/ZXP setup and all continues to be well.
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Totally agree in replacing Sensation - as it just doesn't deliver spin/bite. Anyway, this frame is among other things a new attempt at opening up the world of poly/other to GE/TE sufferers.

So for example in my case I can get in under 2 weeks TE soreness from eg. RPM Blast in a Speed 360 MP!

Hopeless.

Head Hawk/Lux 4G are nightmares... Revolve... no way. I play well with such strings. Really open shoulders, hit out with confidence but far out the elbow... shoot.

But kevlar! The only time I've hit with Kevlar it felt like piano wire and I stopped within the hour. Just no way. The fact that you can even consider it let alone at that tension is mind boggling.
 
bertrevert said:
Totally agree in replacing Sensation - as it just doesn't deliver spin/bite. Anyway, this frame is among other things a new attempt at opening up the world of poly/other to GE/TE sufferers.

But kevlar! The only time I've hit with Kevlar it felt like piano wire and I stopped within the hour. Just no way. The fact that you can even consider it let alone at that tension is mind boggling.
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Trust me, I was very skeptical the first time I tried it as well -- I was trying a lot of different stringing configurations at the time since I had GE and wanted to keep playing. I first tried 60 lbs Ashaway Kevlar and 40 lbs Monogut ZX Pro. This was a in 2015 Pure Drive Plus. And guess what, after the first 30 minutes (it was boardy feeling), it felt more comfortable to hit with then Cyclone/OGSM and really comparable to fullbed syn gut. And it lasted and lasted and lasted while providing great performance. I would never use fullbed Kevlar, but something special happens when it is crossed with ZXP. I only upped the tension to 75/45 after months at 60/40 thinking it might give slightly better control. I don't know if it did, but I just got in the habit of 75/45. I've been doing this pretty much exclusively for over a year and have no complaints.

If you aren't in the mood to experiment with this, don't! But, using this string combo is what is making me keep the Clash Tour. Otherwise I would have sold it because with full bed poly I wasn't happy with spin production and trampolining on certain shots.
 
I got my Black Knight at 24kg and it works nicely.

The Multi poly hybrid it came with was weird though. Found it to make the frame feel like it has a hot spot.
 
I realized I wasted a hybrid setup because it was too tight and aggravated my wrist. Tried Grapplesnake CES Neon Dust and Neon Liquid Dust at 55/57. Going to try Cube and Liquid at 45/46. I will get a set of the former to test at lower tensions. I tried X-Perience 17g at 46/44 and that was okay. Think I will go up in tension incrementally for testing with this frame. I knew better...

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I have tried the new LXN smart string (1.25mm) strung at 45 lbs. It feels really good in my slightly customized clash (leather, silicone, lead - 305 grams) Some might find issues with the string movement as the strings don't snap back in place like other poly's. I played with it on indoor clay this weekend and it lasted about 1.5 hours before it snapped in the middle with a forehand-return.

But if you like a softer feel and put alot of spin on the ball this string feels really good
 
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