Why not try out the new Clash with the same strings to get a good comparison of the two racquets?I plan on trying out the new Clash and was wondering what type of string and tension would go well with this racket. I’m a 65 yo 4.0 currently playing with the new Pure Aero and RPM Blast 17g @52lbs
What the heck is a Clash? Seasoned? Up yours.
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/features/Wilson-Clash-Racquets.htmlWhat the heck is a Clash? Seasoned? Up yours.
Aged and seasoned and tenderized.https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/features/Wilson-Clash-Racquets.html
What? All I meant was that you've played more seasons with RPM than I've been playing tennis. You should be honored.
The best way to approach low tension is to just do it. Adjust your swing a little in order to get depth dialed in. Do go into your session with a “I know this is lower than I’ve ever gone so I expect everything to go out” mentality.Thanks for the info. I will for sure try the Lux Smart at a low tension. When you say low you mean like 50lbs or even lower. Click above likes the 4g at 44lbs. I’m in new territory with low tensions, but imagine it’s just trial and error to see what works best. Really great advice tho !
i would try the clash with the new string thats coming out at the same timeI plan on trying out the new Clash and was wondering what type of string and tension would go well with this racket. I’m a 65 yo 4.0 currently playing with the new Pure Aero and RPM Blast 17g @52lbs
Unfortunately the local tennis shops don’t have the 4G..they have the different types of Alu and Element. They also have Solinco, Yonex and Babolat. Possibly I can get some 4G when a friend comes over to visit. Btw I live in Bangkok so can get a lot but not everything.Yes. Might as well. The spacing between strings is ample.
What tension did you use on the Gut/poly?I have tried at least 2-3 on the prototype which was of the Tour version an loved it with a Gut/poly blend of wilson gut/lux alu power.
Gives me plenty of plow through so even at a higherntenion I feel that even with a poly/multi blend it would still.be amazingly comfortable.
Since you're trying out new things... check out the Luxilon Smart String I had a chance to string one up and the feed back was amazing for a full bed at low tension. I could imagine even better kn a hybrid
I use VS Team/Revolve with 53/51 in the Tour Version. Perfect for me , 53 lbs sounds low for gut but plays great in this flex frame.What tension did you use on the Gut/poly?
How is hyper g holding up?I demoed the regular Clash twice with Luxilon 4G at 50lbs and it felt good so you could try that, but I also demoed the Tour with Luxilon Smart at 50lbs and it felt 10 times better for my game. I prefer heavier racquets and the Tour feels more stable to me. I just bought a Tour strung with Hyper G at 50lbs so I'll let you know how that compares to the Smart. I like the bite you get from Hyper G and it's not an extremely stiff poly in my opinion. I used to play natural gut in mains of my old racquet with Hyper G's in crosses at 48lbs and it feels amazing, but that was Volkl PB Mid 10 stick and Hyper G chews through gut or multifiliment quick so if money isn't an issue that is a nice mix. In terms of how the Smart plays, it has an interesting feel, it's kind of springy and my arm didn't hurt at all after 1hr of intense hitting with a pro. I actually liked the Smart and hoping I like Hyper G in the Tour more. I've spoken to some players and they said their arms, shoulders, etc., haven't hurt even with full beds of poly in the Clash so I think you can get away with stiffer strings in the Clash due to how flexible and soft it is. I'm 5.0 level.
Just wanted to comment on lux smart, this poly was designed to play between 40-48lbs regardless of string pattern. Anything over will change the tensile pattern that the technology is designed to play around.
Chris said in the TW Vlog that Smart is his favourite string now and he strung it at 35lbs.I strung my Clash Tour at 48lbs and it played like a trampoline. Almost made me think I made a mistake with purchasing the racquet. I had it restrung with Alu Power and it plays wonderfully now. I know it’s fesifned and supposedly engineered to be low tension string, but DO NOT recommend using a low tension with Alu Smart.
im finding that if you strings polys low enough, they will work for your arm and raketI am playing with softer poly, X-Perience, as stiffer strings like RPM Blast killed my arm in stiff frames. I am wondering if the Clash will allow for use of the stiffer polys and still ensure we don't get arm issues? For now, I have one frame strung at 48 and the other at 55/53 to see what the difference is (raining so have not tried the higher tension frame yet). I have lots of sets of strings I have not used as they are stiff but maybe it would be safe to use them in this frame?
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Yes. I have been doing this. Stringing in the upper 40's when I used a Pure Strike. However, I am wondering if the flexibility of the clash will negate the stiffness of strings like RPM Blast in the 50's? I would definitely string in the 40's for stiff frames but I want to at least test the Clash in the 50's to see if I get more feel and control without jarring my arm. I have reels of my go to soft poly but have many sets of stiffer poly I have been storing over the years. Wish the weather would get better in my area. Only hit once in the last few months.im finding that if you strings polys low enough, they will work for your arm and raket
challenge is finding the goldee-lock zone for you and your raket
with stiff polys, dont worry about venturing into the 30lb ranges,,
polys feel good in the 30s on long strokes, but volleys are a struggle with that trampoline tension (a bit of a trade off!!,, who needs to volley anyway,, haaa. joke),
lots of people i know and myself included are playing in the 40lb range now, unheard of about 5 to 10 years ago
now adays, you even have "wilson" recomending that the clash be strung in the 40lb range for the w.clash rakets,,
some poeple will like i, some wont
it all depends on the player
I've tamed the Clash Tour!!
So, I've played with the Clash Tour for a total of 25 hours now. First 8 hours were with a TW demo that had Wilson Sensation 16 at 55 lbs. It was a new stick, so the string bed was fresh. I loved the muted feel of the Clash Tour from the first hit and against the machine was able to generate great spin, good control, power when I wanted it, and didn't have anything really negative to say. However, when I transitioned to match play I wasn't as comfortable really hitting out on groundstrokes as some would trampoline and sail. The demo period ended and I was interested in the racket with different string setups, so I bought one.
So, post-demo in the stick that I bought, I started with Volkl Cyclone 17g at 50 lbs. I have plenty of experience with this string at this tension in several other rackets. I figured it would help de-power things and add a touch more spin. I played 8 hours (all match play) with the Cyclone and, overall, it greatly improved my ability to swing out, added a bit more spin (but less than I expected), and still retained comfort...but...there was still some trampoline action. Unfortunately, this trampoline-effect was enough that I still wasn't confident hitting out at times and I actually went back to my old racket/string setup (Volkl VS8-315 with Kevlar/Monogut ZXP at 75/45 lbs) at times.
Before deciding that I was done with the Clash Tour, I decided to cut out the Cyclone and try a familiar string setup....Ashway Kevlar 17g and Ashaway Monogut ZX Pro Black at 75 lbs / 45 lbs. I pre-stretched and strung it up as I normally do. I have now put 9+ hours (match play) on the Kev/ZXP and it is a great fit for the Clash Tour and my game. Spin is noticeably better than with Cyclone, both visually and also based on opponent comments ("hitting a much heavier ball than usual..."). But most importantly, the racket is now tamed and I can swing out whenever I want and still be able to control things. Because of the ZXP, I still get great "free power" on hard serve returns, overheads, and serves. Volleys are great with this racket IMO, and that continues with this string setup. Touch (particularly for droppers) is one downside of Kev/ZXP based on my experience with this setup in other rackets. However, in the Clash Tour I no longer have that complaint. I think the frame flex may give just enough dwell time to give me back the touch I felt I lost in stiffer frames. Finally, comfort is really excellent, with absolutely no wrist/arm/elbow soreness or stiffness. And based on the limited wear I've seen so far, I believe I will get at least 20-25 hours out of this stringing.
Totally agree in replacing Sensation - as it just doesn't deliver spin/bite. Anyway, this frame is among other things a new attempt at opening up the world of poly/other to GE/TE sufferers.First 8 hours were with a TW demo that had Wilson Sensation 16 at 55 lbs.
Since posting that I've logged another 5 hours (almost 15 hours total) on the Kev/ZXP setup and all continues to be well.
Trust me, I was very skeptical the first time I tried it as well -- I was trying a lot of different stringing configurations at the time since I had GE and wanted to keep playing. I first tried 60 lbs Ashaway Kevlar and 40 lbs Monogut ZX Pro. This was a in 2015 Pure Drive Plus. And guess what, after the first 30 minutes (it was boardy feeling), it felt more comfortable to hit with then Cyclone/OGSM and really comparable to fullbed syn gut. And it lasted and lasted and lasted while providing great performance. I would never use fullbed Kevlar, but something special happens when it is crossed with ZXP. I only upped the tension to 75/45 after months at 60/40 thinking it might give slightly better control. I don't know if it did, but I just got in the habit of 75/45. I've been doing this pretty much exclusively for over a year and have no complaints.Totally agree in replacing Sensation - as it just doesn't deliver spin/bite. Anyway, this frame is among other things a new attempt at opening up the world of poly/other to GE/TE sufferers.
But kevlar! The only time I've hit with Kevlar it felt like piano wire and I stopped within the hour. Just no way. The fact that you can even consider it let alone at that tension is mind boggling.