Wilson Clash the Most Flexible Racket Ever Made?

#1
Wilson is going to great lengths to marketing this.

TW has it rated as a 55 stiffness

The Prince Phantom Pro 100 is rated as a 54 on their site...

It's a solid racket, I just found this to be a bit odd.

thoughts / comments?
 
#3
Vantage BastCore series is RA 49.
Kneissl Reach Twice RA 54.
Dunlop Classic Pro Revelation RA 55.

This type of stiffness works pretty well when combined with some weight. Without weight, the racquet becomes flimsy.
 
#4
Wilson doesn't use RA to test flexibility. They use their "Stiffness Index" which is the scale where it is more flexible. Check out their Facebook page, it has it listed at 11.2mm, compared to other current and old racquets, including the Jack Kramer woodie which is the second most flexible in their post at 9.7mm. They claim it's 78% more flexible than any other current frame. That's what they've said on Facebook at least, maybe someone from Wilson could explain how they measure it or how they came up with the 78% mark.
 
#7
Wilson doesn't use RA to test flexibility. They use their "Stiffness Index" which is the scale where it is more flexible. Check out their Facebook page, it has it listed at 11.2mm, compared to other current and old racquets, including the Jack Kramer woodie which is the second most flexible in their post at 9.7mm. They claim it's 78% more flexible than any other current frame. That's what they've said on Facebook at least, maybe someone from Wilson could explain how they measure it or how they came up with the 78% mark.
They will be revealing the machine soon.
 
#8
Hi.
I'm using Wilson Clash at the moment and don't find it that flexible/soft. I strung it with the same strings/tension as my Wilson Ultra tour and I can tell that Ultra tour is more flexible and softer. IMO

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#10
Jura,
Can you tell me more about Clash?
I find the racquet pretty crisp.
It's not hurting the arm but I definitely wouldn't call it a soft racquet.
Maybe I'm the only one feeling this way but after playing the Ultra tour the Clash feels more crisp/less soft.
Don't get me wrong, Clash is not a stiff racquet like Burn but it's not buttery as Ultra Tour. IMO


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#12
Thanks for the replies guys. I have both a clash and a clash tour prototype and was just curious with that fact.

I actually find these frames to play quite nice. I thought was just going to be a recycled burn, but it plays a lot better
think pure drive that doesn't kill the arm

I didn't find it to play ungodly flexible, but it was a comfortable ride on groundstrokes. I think Wilson will sell a ton of this frame in all honesty.
 
#14
So really while there is stats for flex and RA... perhaps what we really have to talk about is - bend?

Tip bend, a bit like the drilled holes at 3 and 9 in the Head flexpoints?

(Am not trying to buy into the hype but will be interested to know/feel what makes it different)
 
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#15
I find the racquet pretty crisp.
It's not hurting the arm but I definitely wouldn't call it a soft racquet.
Maybe I'm the only one feeling this way but after playing the Ultra tour the Clash feels more crisp/less soft.
Don't get me wrong, Clash is not a stiff racquet like Burn but it's not buttery as Ultra Tour. IMO
Thanks!
You just saved me the time and aggravation of making a trip/return trip and demoing the Clash.
 
#17
Hi.
I'm using Wilson Clash at the moment and don't find it that flexible/soft. I strung it with the same strings/tension as my Wilson Ultra tour and I can tell that Ultra tour is more flexible and softer. IMO

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What strings did you use? What tension setting? I did some research and learned that it’s better strung at a lower tension.
 
#20
I wonder how this racquet feels. It has a 55RA but a width of 24.5mm. It kind of reminds me of the discount frames sold at the big box stores with low RA and thick beams. However, those racquets are flexible by virtue of being cheap and not by design.
 
#24
Give the clash a year or so to see if it stands the test of time like the prestige’s did. If you see a lot of clash in the secondary markets or if other major tennis retailers including TW puts these on sale, then you know the truth about clash. I personally prefer thin beams with great feel. What is clash’s main selling point? More flexible and pocketing? I get that same thing with my prestige mids using gut/poly stringing at my desired tension. Some people may like clash but I am not spending 250 for a racket.
 
#25
Wilson is going to great lengths to marketing this.

TW has it rated as a 55 stiffness

The Prince Phantom Pro 100 is rated as a 54 on their site...

It's a solid racket, I just found this to be a bit odd.

thoughts / comments?
RE:
Wilson Clash the Most Flexible Racket Ever Made?
"Ever" ? All wood rackets were much more flexible. These are rackets correct? Many older school graphite rackets were more flexible, 30..40's like max 200g and rossi F200
 
#26
RE:
Wilson Clash the Most Flexible Racket Ever Made?
"Ever" ? All wood rackets were much more flexible. These are rackets correct? Many older school graphite rackets were more flexible, 30..40's like max 200g and rossi F200
Based on Wilson's Facebook post, it is more flexible than the Jack Kramer wood frame. That's the only wood frame they included in the chart though.
 
#27
i dont really understand this sudden obsession with soft flexible racquets. As a junior there were only wooden racquets available. The first stiff graphite racquet , An Adidas gtx lendl type, i applauded. It was my first stiff racquet, way better then the former soft racquets.
Also you dont feel the ball any better with a flexible racquet. Already 30 years ago it was established with high speed cameras that the ball has left the stringbed, when those racquets are still deforming thereby losing energy and precision. For better feel use stiff racquets.
 
#28
i dont really understand this sudden obsession with soft flexible racquets. As a junior there were only wooden racquets available. The first stiff graphite racquet , An Adidas gtx lendl type, i applauded. It was my first stiff racquet, way better then the former soft racquets.
Also you dont feel the ball any better with a flexible racquet. Already 30 years ago it was established with high speed cameras that the ball has left the stringbed, when those racquets are still deforming thereby losing energy and precision. For better feel use stiff racquets.
Have you ever suffered from TE (tennis elbow)?
 
#29
Have you ever suffered from TE (tennis elbow)?
Maybe you are not old enough but also during my junior days with only heavy flexible wooden racquets there were plenty of ladies with sloppy backhands who got TE.
Now that i am older and play irregular myself and i have less tennis trained muscle i sometimes feel pain around the elbow. This is purely by suddenly playing too much.
So dont blame your racquet for that.
 
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