The regular clash takes weight just like any other frame. I've added 4g between 3 and 9 and 1g at 12, then 10g in the handle with a leather grip.
You'd find it hard to feel a difference between the two frames now they weigh the same.
Wilson Clash V3 100 Pro 16 x20 thread
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You'd find it hard to feel a difference between the two frames now they weigh the same.
I think the original clash was so different to anything on the market. That mystique was worn off over time as the frame hasn't really changed much since its release. That's a good thing in my opinion.
I've used the v1 and v3 a lot, and its a must try if you have a topspin game. The sweet spot feels massive, it's easy to manoeuvre, and has a good balance between power and control.
The comfort is obviously the standout feature. I've had all sorts of shoulder problems over the years, and since I moved to the clash I've been able to play multiple times a week with no issues. Something I wasn't able to do with many other frames.
One tip would be to restring your clash regularly. I use Signum pro poly plasma in mine at really low tension (40lb main 38lbs crosses). I usually get about 7 league matches before I need a restring.
If I could only have one between the regular and pro, I'd probably pick the regular clash and add some weight. Then you know it won't be too heavy for you.
I moved to the 98v1 last year following a wrist injury, then as things settled down with the wrist I switched to the new PK Black Ace 300 for a little more forgiveness. About 6 weeks ago my wrist got injured again, wasn't even in play, big buy smashed a flat serve long straight at my legs and I barely had enough time to drop the racquet head into a vertical backhand and it snapped my wrist back as I tried to deflect it, extremely frustrating. I'm back on the court this week, but the wrist is now a little unstable and weaker, and does not like the higher swing weight on the upward motion in the serve. Other racquets I have with lower swing weights don't seem to be an issue. So I've pulled the 98v1 out again, I also have the Pro v1, but I find it very erratic and unpredictable; I am curios about the Pro v3 with the 16x20, but I'd need to find one with a lower swing weight.
Don't expect the 16x20 pro to have a noticeable increase in control over the regular 16x19.
The regular and pro felt almost identical once I got them to the same static / swing weight.
My control comes with heavy topspin, but I have no issues flattening out the ball with the clash.
The V3 is an upgrade from the V1 though. It just feels more solid overall.
I used to own the older Black ace 300. If I were you I'd just stick to that racket instead of changing to the clash. They are fairly similar and it isn't worth the investment to buy a V3.
TheNadural
Rookie
I have been playing more and more with this racket and I just keep coming back to it.
Put my fun review here - Clash Pro v3 > You
My setup
Clash Strengths
Comparison - other rackets I have tested extensively and are my current top 4 - highly subjective!
Contenders - Pure Aero 98 2023, EZ100 2025, Blade v9 98 16M.
Context - None of these are played stock. These have all been spec'd similarly to 327-331, ~6pts HL, 327-330 SW. The Clash is the only one at 8pts HL and I'd move the others there but trying to keep all in weight ~ 330g.
Put my fun review here - Clash Pro v3 > You
My setup
- Strings - Otoro/Confidential 17 @ 50/48 (I think)
- Specs - 327.25g - 31.9cm (8HL) - 330SW
- Twistweight - measured with Briffidi
- Racket has a slightly lower TW than I expected being a 100
- Clash Pro v3 - 13.3
- For reference, some others I have tried - strung with generally the same strings - Otoro with Sync/WasX
- PA98 - 14.1 - highest I have measured
- Blade 98 v9 16M - 12.7 - lowest I have measured
- Speed MP 24 - 13.5
- EZ100 - 13.8-14
- EZ98 - 13.4
- TF40 - 13.7 - full bed Multi so maybe a little lighter due to that
- Extreme Pro - 13.6
- Whiteout v1 18M - 13.7
Clash Strengths
- Just enough power to swing out to hit big serves and groundstrokes
- Sufficient depth on defensive hits
- Powerful first serves
- Excellent spin and second serves
- Awesome sound, feel, comfort
- Surprisingly good control and touch
- Good at slices despite large beam
- Very maneuverable for 330sw – as good as any 98 I play with
- Lets you play offense and defense, spin and flat, great on serve and good on volley – just great all around racket.
Comparison - other rackets I have tested extensively and are my current top 4 - highly subjective!
Contenders - Pure Aero 98 2023, EZ100 2025, Blade v9 98 16M.
Context - None of these are played stock. These have all been spec'd similarly to 327-331, ~6pts HL, 327-330 SW. The Clash is the only one at 8pts HL and I'd move the others there but trying to keep all in weight ~ 330g.
- Power
- PA98>EZ98>Clash>Blade
- The EZ and PA98 are harder to control depth with but easier to hit overpowering shots. Clash is in my goldilocks zone.
- Spin
- PA98=Clash=EZ100>Blade
- These all have plenty of spin but the top 3 have a small but noticeable more than the Blade. This is most noticeable on serves.
- The PA98 seems to have the most spin on lower powered shots.
- Angle Control
- Blade>PA98>Clash=EZ100
- Blade is point and shoot and very confidence inspiring. PA98 just edges out the Clash and EZ on hitting sharp angles when near the service line but all are plenty good for my level. PA98 feels like a very short dwell time which inspires confidence in directional control.
- Touch
- PA98>Blade>Clash=EZ100
- PA98 is my favorite for drops - probably Alcaraz bias. I consistently hit better drops with it.
- Maneuverability
- Clash=Blade>EZ100=PA98
- I have tried a lot of 330SW rackets and the Clash is shockingly maneuverable IME relative to any others. I assume this is due to the slightly lower Twistweight and lower balance. Absolute dream to carve up the court.
- Serve
- Clash=EZ100>PA98>Blade
- I "feel" like I crush serves with the Blade but my opponents struggle the least against it. Clash and EZ hit - little bigger for me and can spin the ball exceptionally.
- Volley
- EZ100>PA98>Clash>>Blade
- Take with a grain of salt as I stink at this. My favorite volley racket is a GravPro that is 342g, 31.7cm, 332SW - absolute beast at the net. EZ100 is best combo of this group though. Blade has great maneuverability, but for someone not great at volleys, has the least training wheels.
- Forehand
- Clash=PA98>EZ100>Blade
- These all hit great loopy, heavy topspin forehands for me but the Clash is the most consistent in getting depth without errors.
- Playing against better players, the PA98 gets more consistent depth and the biggest ball.
- OHBH
- EZ100=Clash=PA98=Blade
- I find that I prefer lower launching rackets for OHBH. I'd take the Extreme Pro or EZ98 over any of these but they are all fine.
- Slice
- Blade>PA98>Clash=EZ100
- Blade's thin beam, great maneuverability, and sufficient spin make it the best weapon here but they are all high spin and really good.
- Defense
- EZ100>Clash=PA98>Blade
- When I'm on the run and late to a ball or trying to reset a point with a high looping FH, the Blade's lower power become more of a liability. PA98 is probably the worst for a defensive slice FH.
- Forgiveness
- EZ100=Clash=PA98>Blade
- I see a high correlation between headsize, SW, TW and my perception of forgiveness. It is less obvious when you miss the sweetspot with the Clash or EZ but they, along with the PA98, are still great at getting the ball back with decent depth.
- Consistency/Error Rate
- Blade>Clash=PA98>EZ100
- This is where the Blade shines. It doesn't hit the biggest ball but it keeps it consistently in play and that wins points.
- The Clash has the best depth consistency for me, consistently getting the ball into the back box but not out. The PA98 is a consistently bigger ball but riskier to go long. and EZ100 is a little less consistent.
- Comfort
- Clash>Blade>PA98=EZ100
- No persistent arm problems with any so far. PA is less of an issue than I anticipated, possibly due to the strong twistweight keeping it very stable but it is clearly stiffer feeling. That can be a plus though IMO as long as it isn't bothering you. EZ does seem to irritate my wrist more than the others.
- Feel Notes
- Clash is kinda a unique feel in that it somehow feels more crisp to me than the EZ. I don't get the noodle comparisons. The Clash is crisper than EZ100/98 and close to the Blade IMO.
- EZ feels great to me and I love the feel of pure-ing the ball with it. Reminds me of a pure golf shot when you hit it just right.
- Blade is closer to the clash but a little more crisp and delivering more feedback on off center than either EZ or Clash.
- PA98 is noticeably stiffer and with a very short dwell time. Feels like the ball is out quick which I don't love, but I do appreciate as it makes it feel like it adds control. I love the power and twistweight here though as when I miss, I often still get a decent ball. The feel is growing on me.
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My 2 cents on this. Obviously YMMV
- Clash Pro had noticeably lower launch than the std 100 but I preferred the weight of the Pro. My preference was adding weight (in the handle and at 3/9) to the 100 rather than going for the Pro
- I have an underspec'd Blade 100 v8. Less power and much flatter than the Clash, but better feel and control and I can get as much spin out of the Blade, it just needs some weight.
- I picked up a Pro Staff X which definitely delivered more power and shape than the Blade with good control. My plan this month is to test that against the weighted up Blade 100
to answer your questions about spin on the Pro -- you can get a lot of spin with the Pro in my experience, but it just came easier with the std 100. I have no experience with the VCore, but my guess is the VCore wins in spin
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shamaho
Professional
Very interesting ! can you elaborate on the comparison between the regular weighted up to Pro vs the Pro ?
I'm also considering between those models and thinking I might have more leeway with the regular one (295g) - adding a leather grip (possibly the thinner Kimoni instead of standard leather grip + overgrip to it) that would add at least 10gr - of course it would change swingweight and balance - but wondering if the layup especially in the head area between them is different...
Your experience with those two and feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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p.s. Meanwhile seen your updates... looks like they are very similar once weighted up, so I might really go to the regular one first, and customize from there...
I did use the Clash Pro v1 (310 gr) for a good while and couldn't quite gel completely with it, I liked many aspects of it but the regular v1 (Which I demoed for a single intense match and made my decision to adopt the Clash, stupidly I went for the Pro) only to find that the regular was way better than the Pro... Found the Pro not that maneuverable and even customizing it I never found a decent setup... ended up selling them.
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Yes they are very similar but I like the standard v3 more.
Customised to the same specs, the standard v3 hits with slightly more power and spin than the pro, but allows for easier customisation.
For example, I've used the standard clash anywhere from stock weight to 335g strung and pretty much enjoyed every setup for different reasons.
I don't play competitive matches during the winter, so I currently have my v3 completely in stock form strung with a multifilament. I'll switch back to a poly in spring.
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TheNadural
Rookie
Anyone tried the clash pro v3 that could compare it to a spec’d up gravity mp and/or boom mp?
Marc_Landauer
New User
I have the Clash 100 V3 Pro for 2 Months now and got Toro Line Snapper 1.23 in it, strung it 23/22kg.
The Racket is very comfortable, but still the when i hit an aggressive spin, the balls go up a lot in some crazy angles, but still land before the baseline.
When i want to keep the ball a bit flatter with reduced spin, i could not get the length yet.
The ball feel is a bit muted compared to other rackets, but i guess you have to get used to it. I switched the Wilson Basic Grip (L2) now to a Wilson Feather Thin, to have a bit more direct feeling with the racket.
Maybe it´s not the best string for this racket. Currently it´s a bit unpredictable. But overall the racket feels great, especially on serves, it really helps.
Also slice is very smooth.
Helpful for every String Suggestion.
The Racket is very comfortable, but still the when i hit an aggressive spin, the balls go up a lot in some crazy angles, but still land before the baseline.
When i want to keep the ball a bit flatter with reduced spin, i could not get the length yet.
The ball feel is a bit muted compared to other rackets, but i guess you have to get used to it. I switched the Wilson Basic Grip (L2) now to a Wilson Feather Thin, to have a bit more direct feeling with the racket.
Maybe it´s not the best string for this racket. Currently it´s a bit unpredictable. But overall the racket feels great, especially on serves, it really helps.
Also slice is very smooth.
Helpful for every String Suggestion.
