Wilson K Six One Tour 95

Wow you live far away from my city. I am really tempted to buy me a few sticks to keep. My landlord have a hypercarbon pro staff I might pick up just to keep. I like the solid feeling of the stick but sometimes it is hard to swing for three hours.
 
I would really love to know if these are Prostaff original 95s. If we could establish that the next questions should be: how on earth did this shop end up with them? And why not elsewhere? And (most importantly)... how many have they got?
 
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I obviously cannot judge if it is a PS6.0 95,but it definately looks and brings the exact features to the table.
Regarding the stock of the store,I believe they have quite a few still available,since they offer them on their website in all gripsizes...

Another interesting aspect is,that they offer the "Wilson K Six One 95 players special" on their internet site.
Unfortunately the english version of the website does not state the same info as the german version does(you can click at the top of the page either on the german flag or the great britain flag),namely that it is an racket especially made for wilson sponsored professionals(in german:"extra angefertigt für Wilson-Tour Vertragsspieler").
It seems to be a tad longer than the other rackets,measuring 69,80 cm...
 
Borg Forever, I am sure you know wit is a fake or a real racket from Wilson right. An authorized Wilson dealer sells a fake stick. Hum??? I am not so sure. In Germany the laws are much more strict than the states. You might as well close the shop if you want to sell counterfeit rackets.
 
Could you maybe elaborate what is supposed to be fake about it in your opinion,Borg Forever?
The thing is,i bought it off one of the biggest tennis stores here in germany(like Tennis Warehouse in the States for example),so I honestly do not believe it is counterfeit...
But please let us hear your opinion
 
Rusty669 and Shaochieh - my last post above is what people should be asking, not whether you can see the evidence on the racquet itself. Rather: how come this shop seems to have a frame that no-one else can get nor even exists according to the publicly available version of Wilson catalogues?

Can you ask the shop directly? If they can't answer with a plausible reason then it's likely they are fake (whether they are a legit store or not I'm sure places sometimes get caught unaware or think they can get product cheaper by side-stepping official supply channels. It happens in many industries - clothing/shoes, computers, toys etc)
 
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Rusty669. The situation in the other threads may bare no relevance to this situation at all.

If we ask the shop itself directly about them and they can't offer a straight, knowledgeable answer then it would be fair to question the legitimacy of the frame.

Why has this shop got access to them but not anywhere else? The point about the German writing "extra angefertigt für Wilson-Tour Vertragsspieler" is the best indication they have specific knowledge about them but it may still be worth asking them. (FYI: I have checked the German version of the site and can't see the text about the being a special version)

Aside from that, maybe Wilson Germany could be contacted to ask about them.
 
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If you read the other two threads thoroughly,you would have noticed that they actually tried to contact the store too in order to get a decent response!
Supposedly the store did not know themselves if my memory serves me right(but you can read it up yourself if you like).

All I know is that I have the racket in hand,have-even at my youngish age of 24 years old-enough experience with tennis rackets,and that there is absolutely nothing that looks fake to me about the racket.
It feels legit,it looks the part,the balance is right,the weight is correct...
There is not one dead giveaway "fake" or counterfeit characteristic about this racket
 
Thank you,mrtrinh,for finally answering on the foam filled handle!:-)
I already thought nobody was gonna comment on that
 
WILSON k 95 tour ?

Dear friend, i really don't know if the frame is fake or not, but look this:
http://cgi.****.it/Wilson-Hyper-Pro...250654141813?pt=UK_Tennis&hash=item3a5c26ad75
For me, very very very similar.
But it's really very strange : a Wilson pro on normal retail at very cheap prize ?
P.S.:
I remember this:
your frame look's very similar or identical like the frame used by Stefan Edberg on the return on 2009 senior tour.
2nd PS:
have you played with the frame ? Impressions ?
 
WILSON k 95 tour ?

Dear friend, i really don't know if the frame is fake or not, but look this:
http://cgi.****.it/Wilson-Hyper-Pro...250654141813?pt=UK_Tennis&hash=item3a5c26ad75
For me, very very very similar.
But it's really very strange : a Wilson pro on normal retail at very cheap prize ?
P.S.:
I remember this:
your frame look's very similar or identical like the frame used by Stefan Edberg on the return on 2009 senior tour.
2nd PS:
have you played with the frame ? Impressions ?
3th PS: i have problems with the address of ****, but search Wilson 60 and look the frame on Great Britain 6.0 HPS Tour on sell.
 
WILSON k 95 tour ?

Sorry, but the Forum don't show the real link.
Search on the "bay" "Wilson 6.0" and look the red HPS Tour on sell on Great Brit.(I think the last of the column).
For me, very very similar to your frame.
Look the bumper: identical, look the frame.
But the Wilson 6.0 HPS Tour was discontinued on 2002.
It's possible, now, a reply or it's a beautiful fake ?
I don't know, really.
But your racket is beautiful.
 
Wilson k tour 95

Your grip size is smaller than normal, like "asian version", or is usual Wilson size ?
I see it's 2 - 4 1/4 : this racket is very beutiful and i would like to buy a couple too.
I play normally with 3 - 4 3 /8 but i don't want a grip size too small. if you confirm me the frame have the "ordinary" size, i will buy on web site two frames on size 3.
Really or fake, no problem.
I play with 3 BLX 90 and a couple of "K 95 Tour" is appropriate and very rare.
Have you played with your racket ?
Impressions ?
:confused:
 
It is definately the "normal" Wilson size...I have 5 Wilson raackets all in all(with synthetic replacement grip though) and this one-although still coated in plastic over the handle- definately feels the exact same size.
Unfortunately I have not hit with it yet,so you should maybe wait until the weekend before buying one.
I will have a review of the racket up before this coming weekend is over.
Greets
 
This is certainly an interesting case. Having looked closely at some PS95 pics it definitely seems to be darn close, if not identical.

I really wonder how the shop got hold of these without having much knowledge of them. I mean, they had to order them at some point - surely the specs would have said they were ordering a special/limited frame??
 
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Oh i think the store knows damn-well that that they bought "special" frames off wilson.The problem is though,that they don't seem to be selling well because
:
a)everyone believes there is no such racket and as a result deems it to be fake
b)no other store in germany has hold of them and so there can be no playtesting done(which is a major backdraw for a lot of serious players)

All i can say is that I took the risk and ordered me a couple of theses frames,and there is no way I will be sending them back!:-)
 
Ok,so i headed to the courts today with my new(strung) rackets.As it is winter here,I played indoors for 2 hours on a carpet court.
About myself:I used to and still regulary play with my Wilson n six one 95s(18/20) strung with babolat tonic and luxilon alu big banger at around 25 kilos in the mains,and 23,5 kilos in the crosses.
I can't judge on the level of tennis I play,and I do not know how it would transfer into the american system,but I am guessing I would be somewhere around 4.0 to 4.5.
I would say I am an all court player,with a single handed backhand and an eastern forehand grip.My serve isn't the fastest,but it can get the job done with spin.

Now to the racket:I strung it with babolat tonic in the mains at 26 kilos,and luxilon big banger alu at 24,5 in the crosses.(as it has a 16/18 string pattern in contrast to my regular 18/20 i upped the kilos slightly)

"Review":
1) Forehand
My forehand held up well for the whole 2 hours, the racket allowing smooth and spinfriendly shots.I noticed the difference of string pattern here quite a bit,with my other racket I think I used to hit a little flatter.
All in all,I was very pleased with my forehand using the new rackets,but as it is my best shot I hoped for that beforehand.

2)Backhand
Backhand shots worked quite well with the racket.I was mostly impressed with the slice,since the narrower frame allowed for a bigger margin of error,and the ball stayed low throughout the session.
My normal backhand was fairly pleasing,although I wasn't on par with it as I know i can be.This was not down to the racket though I think,my timing was just slightly off today.

3)Volleys
This part of the game I really enjoyed with this stick!Ball pocketing was awesome,the frame was very(!) stable at net,even on harder hit shots by mate.
I had lots of fun volleying,wheras normally this is not my strongest part.

4)Serves
I am not someone who has the biggest serve in the game.And even with this racket I obviously didn't hit 130 mph bombs.
BUT,servin was still a lot of fun.The 16/18 encouraged me to hit a little more spin,so my kick serve seemed to be very effective today.
Placing the ball was also a joy.

All in all,I was more than pleased with the stick.It offered lots of feel,was very stable and also hepled me to hit spin more ever so slightly.
 
Wilson k 95 tour

I can't resist: i've buyed a coupple of Wilson k 95 tour like you.
The coupple is just shipped.
Very thanks to Rusty for the thread and the suggestions.
Good Holidays
:)
 
Well.... with a little bit of help from a friend (you know who you are) I know what these are.... They are stock set aside for Alexandr Dolgopolov who now uses the BLX paint job version of these frames.... They are PS 95 Originals !!

I've ordered 3 of them and will be using them as my main frames from this day forth as I know the PS95 well and love them to bits but they are so hard to find now in decent condition.

Happy... Happy Days !!
 
Marcus said:
...They are stock set aside for Alexandr Dolgopolov who now uses the BLX paint job version of these frames.... They are PS 95 Originals !!
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Just checked out his frame. Maybe this pic is deceptive but the frame looks a little wide to be a PS 95.
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Hey Marcus,care to share your information?:-)
I would love to know who has such insider info...
Anyways,I hope you enjoy the frames.The hit beautifully
 
Marcus said:
Well.... with a little bit of help from a friend (you know who you are) I know what these are.... They are stock set aside for Alexandr Dolgopolov who now uses the BLX paint job version of these frames.... They are PS 95 Originals !!

I've ordered 3 of them and will be using them as my main frames from this day forth as I know the PS95 well and love them to bits but they are so hard to find now in decent condition.

Happy... Happy Days !!
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Hey Marcus, could you put up your review when you get them? Interesting to know what you think. So, what have you abandoned for these babies?
 
Rusty669 said:
I strongly believe it is the first option(Pro Staff 6.0 95) in a k factor paintjob.
If you look at the pics closely,you will see some definite features of the original Pro Staff 95:
-the "roundish" throat of the racket(exactly like the PS6.0)
-20 mm beam(exactly like PS6.0)
-bumperguard is identical to PS6.0 with these slightly longishly shaped bevels
-weight is roughly the same
-same string pattern
-same buttcap
-same headsize and form of the headsize
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This looks exactly the same as my racquet's - k95 which I got from a top 100 pro, which of course could also be a pj
 
I ordered three yesterday and should be here tomorrow. Anyone who likes to have a stick please let me know I can send them through USPS on the military base here in Germany.
 
Marcus, Rusty, Shaochieh, do you happen to know the estimated strung flex and swingweight of this particular frame? Or can you make an educated guess?
 
As it is probably a paintjob of the Wilson Pro Staff 95 i am guessing the flex will be around 67 and the swingweight at around 317.That is just my opinion,obviously very roughly guessed.
Hope I could help
 
Rusty669 said:
As it is probably a paintjob of the Wilson Pro Staff 95 i am guessing the flex will be around 67 and the swingweight at around 317.That is just my opinion,obviously very roughly guessed.
Hope I could help
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The PS 6.0 95 is much softer than that. In fact it's probably > 60 RA.

Given the roundness of the edges of the throat, it really does look like a ho'd up PS 6.0 95. :)

....Reminds me of a woman that gets all made up to try to look 20 years younger :)
 
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....Reminds me of a woman that gets all made up to try to look 20 years younger :)[/QUOTE]

Bragging or complaining,el sergento?:)
I think you are right,it might be softer than I said.I just saw the stats on an old Tennis Warehouse site...
 
Rusty669 said:
Bragging or complaining,el sergento?:)
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Depends on the outcome:p

Rusty669 said:
I think you are right,it might be softer than I said. I just saw the stats on an old Tennis Warehouse site...
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I learned to play on those things (yeah, I'm old), and I still take them out from time to time because I love how soft they are. For a casual hit, nothing's better. It's actually fun to use them against kids or the GF because you can lean into the ball and still feed them softies.

Now if you want to put the ball away...........the PS 6.0 95 is all bark, no bite.
 
rlau said:
You mean it's low powered, like for instance the Dunlop Muscle Weave 200g, the Dunlop Revelation 200G, the Pure Storm Limited etc.?
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Probably lower powered than even those modernish frames. Unless you've hit with it it's hard to describe, but when you hit the ball you almost feel the frame bending / flexing backwards. It has good mass so it doesn't get pushed around and it's very stable and very good at countering heavy balls, it's just not the best at generating it's own pace.

Overall it's a very soft frame that provides fantastic feel and good spin. In terms of power though, look elsewhere unless you're willing to add tons of weight to an already 12 oz frame.
 
When I get my stick next week then I would know exactly how it feel. I still have my original ps 95 and it is low powered compare to my TF 315. I got pushed around a bit while hitting with my friend. Might add a few gram on the 12 to see if I can increase power a bit. But the frame is a arm friendly frame and on clay is not important with the power. Maybe some gut would help a bit.
 
Hello Rusty669

The frame that you have is from the same mold as the PS 6.0 95. The specs you quoted are also exactly the same with the original PS 6.0 95 square inch that I used to own.

These box-beam 95 square inch pro staff frames seem to be a scarce find in regions outside of Europe, not sure why. Hence the reason why people who don't know their existence tend to mistaken them as counterfeits....

There is a lot of other examples of frames which can be exclusively found in regions such as Europe or Asia but not in North America.

I used to own three of these 6.0 Tour 95 in HyperProstaff PJ. They played okay, but very low powered. I never really got to like playing with them as they lack something that the PS 6.0 90 / 85 and the PS 6.1 have. So I sold them off.

IMHO the more common PS85/90 (including n61t and k61t) and the PS6.1 (and all their successors) are much more superior than the 6.0 95, hence probably the reason why they can be found at great discounted price even in new conditions.
 
Hmm,thanks for the info,radionise!:)
I must admit that they do feel low-powered,yes.But i actually quite like it,because I can take big cuts at the ball.Swinging freely is no problem whatsoever.
From what i have witnessed of the tour 90 versions(I only demoed them a couple of hours) I thought them to be quite low powered too.
Just the 90 head gave me a headache,so I am pretty chuffed with what I have got here.
But like all things in life,it comes down to feel and who likes what...
Anyhow,thanks for your info!
Very much appreciated
 
Can someone outside the EU tell me if this retailer still charged you the VAT tax?

Thanks !

BTW they give a discount if you buy 4 or more.
 
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el sergento said:
Probably lower powered than even those modernish frames.
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I mentioned those because I really like low-powered control frames with nice feel. I currently play with the Bab PSL and will try the Rev200g next week. Should be fun.

el sergento said:
Unless you've hit with it it's hard to describe, but when you hit the ball you almost feel the frame bending / flexing backwards. It has good mass so it doesn't get pushed around and it's very stable and very good at countering heavy balls, it's just not the best at generating it's own pace.

Overall it's a very soft frame that provides fantastic feel and good spin. In terms of power though, look elsewhere unless you're willing to add tons of weight to an already 12 oz frame.
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That still sounds interesting to me. Perhaps it will allow my to increase the level of spin, compared to the 18x20 pattern on the frames mentioned above.

BTW, Rusty or Marcus, has it been confirmed that this is actually a Pro Staff 6.0 95 in KFactor paint job, or could it just as well be a Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95? I thought the latter was a tad stiffer?
 
rlau said:
BTW, Rusty or Marcus, has it been confirmed that this is actually a Pro Staff 6.0 95 in KFactor paint job, or could it just as well be a Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95? I thought the latter was a tad stiffer?
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The answer is in post #39.
 
Guys....

apologies for not keeping up with this thread.

My frames arrived on X'mas eve. Weight was 331g 331g 333g not bad, 2 of them had the same butt cap code the other one different. The're not strung and I won't be able to get them strung now til Jan 4th I'll have them all strung in VS Gut @ 64lb just like I used to have my PS95 Originals... I'll add some lead @ 3 & 9 and an overgrip, i'll be shooting for 365g strung at 8 points headlight.

I'll let you know how they feel but I know they'll be just super....

Here's Alexandr playing his..... note the buttcap !!


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Hey Marcus,what kind of buttcap do your rackets have?Do they have the black wilson buttcap with the red wilson logo?I am assuming that is a given...
But I would much rather know if all of yours come with a trapdoor,because I got one with a trapdoor and one without...
 
Marcus,
I know people say put the lead under the headguard at 10 & 2 to move the sweet spot a little higher but this stick is already flexable at the top. Would this make it more flexible? How must lead is enough to increase the power? 10grams?
 
Hi

I'm not sure how and to what extent lead at 10 & 2 effects flex in the hoop.... Lead at 3&9 doesn't seem to change the flex kudus adds wallop !!! And stability. I might try lead at 10 & 2 to give it a try... I don't like lead at 12 at all !!

Regards
Mark
 
^^ hi it depends a lot upon the stock weight of the frame, I'd always suggest starting with just 6g in total (3G per side in 1.5g lengths)

For me on average I'm looking to get my frames to 365 - 375g so on your typical 330g (unstrung) frame I'll be adding around 20g intotal to the hoop and balancing it to my desired spec with a combination of leather grip / over grip / lead

Regards
Mark
 
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