Wilson Ksix-one tour 90 vs Wilson Ncode tour 90

hey guys....there maybe a thread somewhere about this but i couldnt find one. I have a wilson Ncode tour 90 nd i want to get a second and since nowhere in melbourne sells the Ncode tours anymore i was wondering if the Kfactor tour played very differently.

If some of you guys have both, descriptions would be much abliged.



Cheers guys.
 

RoddickistheMan

Professional
yes the sw on the k90 is significantly higher. The feel of the k90 is way better than the ncode. The ncode feels more headlight and swings lighter as well. Lacks the feel that the k90 has. I think youll like the k90 way more.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Tennis master, here are the two reviews I did on the K90. The first one was strung with the cheap stuff they use at the tennis shops. The second review, I strung the demo myself at my preferred tension and string to really get a feel of what the racquet played like with my set up. The Ncode and K90 are very different frames. The K is thick, the N is hollow. The N is also heavier to swing than the K.

Review of k90, compared to Ncode 90 and PS 85. .

For those of you who don’t know, I use a PS 85 strung with Ashaway Kevlar crossfire II, 16 gauge, and add about 5 inches of lead at 3 & 9.

Ok went out and hit with the K90 today. It was strung with a synthetic gut (I didn’t ask what kind). The following is for BreakPoint: The demo I played with had a 4 ½ grip which seemed to run just a tad small, but hardly noticeable.

Just to refresh my memory, I warmed up with the Ncode 90. Hit ground strokes, volleys, slices, and some serves. Just like I remembered and others have experienced, it felt heavier to swing than my PS 85, and my 85 has lead added to it. I thought this racquet was awful when I first demoed it, and still feel the same way. Compared to the ps85, it feels like a hollow racquet, or tin can. The only benefit it has over the 85 is I feel like I get a little more power off the ground strokes. I enjoyed the Tours and Hyper Carbon 6.1 more than the ncode, with the Hyper Carbon winning that battle.

The K90.
I hit with it for about an hour and a half. I took time hitting all the strokes, and played around 5 tie breaks.

I want to start off by saying this racquet in now way, shape, or form swings anything like the ncode. They feel completely different--Night and day. Although I felt it still swings a bit heavier than the 85, it is nowhere near the “feel” of the swing weight of the ncode.

Ground strokes.
From the first ball hit I was absolutely amazed how much it feels (at impact) like the 85. It has the soft, but very crisp feel the 85 has. Nice thick response. Contact felt very solid, and full. The racquet felt very firm, yet soft. It is hard to describe, but those of you who love the feel of the 85 when you hit the sweet-spot know what I am talking about. It has that same feel and response!

Biggest difference between the k90 and the 85, was the amount of spin I could generate with this racquet. I was generating topspin much easier with the k90. Flatter balls were also easily achieved, and the control was still there. I was easily generating the same amount of pace as the 85, but as I said, was able to hit with more topspin with this racquet. I loved the control it had and feedback to my hand. It definitely feels like the 85, but with a tad more power. There is no drop off in control between this racquet and the 85. Slice backhands were also very crisp. Nice deep balls that skidded low, and the added spin made the slices have more action and bite to them.

This racquet is a big improvement over the 85 on ground strokes, without losing that thick sweet feeling all of us 85/95 users love so much.

Volleys: Of all the racquets I have demoed (Tour 90/95, Ncode 90/95, Wilson Hyper Carbon 6.1, Head I radical MP, Dunlop 200/300g, and yes even some Volkls, etc, etc, etc ) I felt the Dunlop 300 G was by far the best volleying racquet of all the modern racquets out there. Very close to the 85. I almost switched to this racquet, but unfortunately I hated it’s performance and feel on the serve.

The K90??? The volleys were unreal. The feel at contact was unbelievable. This racquet is an 85 on steroids at the net. It is easily maneuverable at net, and felt exactly like the 85 but with a bit more pop. Again, it felt exactly like the 85 but with more pop, and the sweet spot seems to be bigger. I was able to hit solid volleys that had great pop from the service line and place them with depth or angle where I wanted. I know I may get a lot of bananas or other objects thrown at me for this next comment from all my 85 brothers and sisters, but to me, this racquet outperforms the 85 at net.

Serve: Again, it felt like the 85 but with a little more swing weight. The control I was able to get, and pace was excellent. Once again, the feedback to my hand was the same as the 85. The one extra this racquet has over the 85 is the amount of spin it generates. Spin generated was crazy with this racquet. I was able to hit my first serve with the same, if not more amount of topspin as the 85 without trying as hard. First serves were biting more when they hit the ground, and popping up nice. However, I was not able to hit with as much pace as the 85, but not by much. I figured it was the swing weight I was not use to.

Second serve kick serves were where I really enjoyed hitting with the k90. My kick serves were light years ahead of the 85. I did not have to swing as fast with this racquet to generate the same amount of spin as the 85. I was enjoying the action and bite I was able to generate on the ball so much, I started hitting kick serves exclusively. I absolutely loved it.

All in all, an absolute pleasure to hit with. Wilson I believe has finally provided the 85 and 95 users with the PS 90. A PS 85 on steroids (not too much), without losing that classic feel we all love so much.

Please remember, these are my personal opinions. The best advice I could give anyone is to go out and hit with one yourself. Everyone responds differently.

Hope you enjoyed the review,

Signed,

Another convinced customer.
This is a follow-up review of the K90. For those of you who did not read my initial review it is on page 45, post # 898.

The K90 I demoed today was strung with my preferred string (Ashaway Kevlar Crossfire II, 16 gauge). The store strung it at 55 lbs. It is a 4 ½ grip size.

I played for approximately 2 hours. The first hour+ was spent hitting FH,BH, Volleys, Serves, Etc. The second hour was spent playing tie breaks.

I will try to focus on the notable differences I experienced between the PS85, Ncode 90 and K90.

SWINGWEIGHT
As I noted in my earlier review, the swing weight of this racquet is definitely heavier than that of the 85, however, feels lighter than the ncode. It feels in between the two. In regards to stiffness, the K90 did not feel as stiff as the 85—but pretty close. I feel the ncode is the stiffest of the three.

FEEL
Regarding the all important “feel” question, this racquet is definitely very similar to the 85. It is extremely, extremely close. It has that soft, yet very crisp response and feedback to your hand we all love about the original when the ball impacts the string. The ncode 90 does not come anywhere near this racquet in this department. I always have felt the ncode 90 and tour 90 do not have very good feedback and both have a “muted/dead” and harsh feel to them.

GROUND STROKES
As with the ncode, ground strokes had more pop and spin than the 85, but the K90 blows the ncode away in regards to placement, control, and feedback to your hand. The response on a solid hit feels, as with the 85, that the racquet is an extension of your hand. As with the ncode 90 it also has a larger sweet-spot than the 85.

VOLLEYS [B/]
Volleys were no different than ground strokes. They are on par with the 85 with the added bonus of having a bit more pop to them. The addition of a larger sweet-spot also makes this racquet more forgiving than the 85. I found the k90 to be easily maneuverable at the net, but not as much as the 85. In my opinion, the ncode deserves no mention in this department.

SERVE
Once again, the feel of this racquet on impact was extremely close to the 85. Furthermore, once I got use to the different swing weight, I was able to generate as much if not more pace than the 85, but the ball came off the racquet with much more notable spin. The ball was jumping off the court more than when I serve with the 85. However, I was not as accurate as with the 85.

As a result of the added spin, the second serves (kick serves) were an absolute pleasure to hit. I really enjoyed this racquet on second serves. Spin was very easy to generate, and the kick serves had lots of action and bite to them.

Although the ncode has good pop, in this department the ncode did not perform anywhere near this racquet or the 85.

CONCLUSION

Being able to demo this racquet for a second time, and the luxury of having the racquet strung with my preferred string set-up has afforded me the opportunity to make a good comparison between this racquet and the 85.

All in all, it comes extremely close in feel and performance to the original 85. I would say it is in between the PS 85 and PS 95, leaning more to the 85.

My biggest disappointment (if you could call it that) with the racquet is the swing weight feeling a little heavier than the 85.

It has a larger sweet-spot than the 85 which makes it a more forgiving racquet. In addition, having a “juiced-up 85” with more pop and spin can’t be a bad thing. Especially when it doesn’t lose that classic 85 feel we all love.

I’m convinced! Wilson did a fantastic job with this racquet, and has made amends for the tour, ncode, etc, etc, etc,.

Hope you enjoyed the review, and again these are my experiences with the racquet. The best advice I could give is to take it out and demo.
 

nickb

Banned
The K Factor is better than the ncode in every catagory...Wilson did a great job (for once!) improving the 90.

- It swings lighter
- Feels more like the PS85
- Has better feel/touch (ncode is muted)
- Offers more spin
- Better on off centre shots
- Feels more solid

Nick
 
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