Wilson Pro Labs: Blade Pro Official Thread

Vaust

New User
I just ordered a blade pro 18x20 the old paint job v7. Hoping I like it more then my v7 blade 18x20 but it will be tough as I really like my normal blade
I thought of the same thing.Boy, i was wrong. If i had to describe, this frame rock solid.If you have tried prostaffs before, this felt like a mini prostaff. Mine came 310g with plastic handle wrapper on, didnt weight it after removing.
Final weight with 1.25mm confidential @ 52lbs, 1 wilson pro og comes at 332.3g, balance strung at 32.5cm.
My v7 with same set up 323.5g with 32.5cm balance. I think i got lucky that they both balanced exactly the same, didnt take much time for adjustment.
V7 16 sure felt much easier to swing, am guessing my 16m BP 335+- at least.
Playtest today , the feel is superb, touch and drop shots felt precise.Volleys need sometime getting used, serves felt the same as my v7. FH/BH just invites you to attack,the more aggresive play , the better this frame is.
This is a special frame, blade in name, but infact a totally different animal.I thank wilson for letting us mortals have a go at this.BP 16m is my main now, blade v7 will have to be the spare.
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
I thought of the same thing.Boy, i was wrong. If i had to describe, this frame rock solid.If you have tried prostaffs before, this felt like a mini prostaff. Mine came 310g with plastic handle wrapper on, didnt weight it after removing.
Final weight with 1.25mm confidential @ 52lbs, 1 wilson pro og comes at 332.3g, balance strung at 32.5cm.
My v7 with same set up 323.5g with 32.5cm balance. I think i got lucky that they both balanced exactly the same, didnt take much time for adjustment.
V7 16 sure felt much easier to swing, am guessing my 16m BP 335+- at least.
Playtest today , the feel is superb, touch and drop shots felt precise.Volleys need sometime getting used, serves felt the same as my v7. FH/BH just invites you to attack,the more aggresive play , the better this frame is.
This is a special frame, blade in name, but infact a totally different animal.I thank wilson for letting us mortals have a go at this.BP 16m is my main now, blade v7 will have to be the spare.
You have 16x19 in both?
 

HeavyHitter

New User
BP and retail Blade are completely different racquets. Similar on paper but much different. Blade is easier to pickup and play for most players. Generous sweetspot, decent SW even in stock form but not overwhelming. String spacing is slightly more open on the blade for easier access to spin and power. BP is not as easy to play as it is a filled frame with a high SW compared to the blade. Tighter string spacing with a slightly smaller head size is less forgiving to play in general but those who can easily wield the frame are rewarded with exceptional directional control and depth control. I wouldn't say BP is more powerful or has more spin than the Blade as I have both frames with identical specs. For most people who are trying out, the BP will say it's powerful but it's mostly due to the high SW. You will need to choose your strings and tension more carefully on the BP to get its benefits. Can't be too soft or loose, the frame just over powers the strings and you won't get any benefits. You'll need to use a stiffer poly and find your tension. This is very important, as I have gone thru dozen strings and tensions to see it's full potential
Retail Blade, on the other hand, seems to be less sensitive and can be played with softer strings or looser tension.
If you're a recreational player, I would recommend staying with the retail Blade and add some weight to the top of the frame, 10 and 2 o'clock, to bring up the SW.
 
BP and retail Blade are completely different racquets. Similar on paper but much different. Blade is easier to pickup and play for most players. Generous sweetspot, decent SW even in stock form but not overwhelming. String spacing is slightly more open on the blade for easier access to spin and power. BP is not as easy to play as it is a filled frame with a high SW compared to the blade. Tighter string spacing with a slightly smaller head size is less forgiving to play in general but those who can easily wield the frame are rewarded with exceptional directional control and depth control. I wouldn't say BP is more powerful or has more spin than the Blade as I have both frames with identical specs. For most people who are trying out, the BP will say it's powerful but it's mostly due to the high SW. You will need to choose your strings and tension more carefully on the BP to get its benefits. Can't be too soft or loose, the frame just over powers the strings and you won't get any benefits. You'll need to use a stiffer poly and find your tension. This is very important, as I have gone thru dozen strings and tensions to see it's full potential
Retail Blade, on the other hand, seems to be less sensitive and can be played with softer strings or looser tension.
If you're a recreational player, I would recommend staying with the retail Blade and add some weight to the top of the frame, 10 and 2 o'clock, to bring up the SW.
What string pattern do you have in your BP?
What is your string set up?
How is it for serving?
Thanks!
 

Vaust

New User
BP and retail Blade are completely different racquets. Similar on paper but much different. Blade is easier to pickup and play for most players. Generous sweetspot, decent SW even in stock form but not overwhelming. String spacing is slightly more open on the blade for easier access to spin and power. BP is not as easy to play as it is a filled frame with a high SW compared to the blade. Tighter string spacing with a slightly smaller head size is less forgiving to play in general but those who can easily wield the frame are rewarded with exceptional directional control and depth control. I wouldn't say BP is more powerful or has more spin than the Blade as I have both frames with identical specs. For most people who are trying out, the BP will say it's powerful but it's mostly due to the high SW. You will need to choose your strings and tension more carefully on the BP to get its benefits. Can't be too soft or loose, the frame just over powers the strings and you won't get any benefits. You'll need to use a stiffer poly and find your tension. This is very important, as I have gone thru dozen strings and tensions to see it's full potential
Retail Blade, on the other hand, seems to be less sensitive and can be played with softer strings or looser tension.
If you're a recreational player, I would recommend staying with the retail Blade and add some weight to the top of the frame, 10 and 2 o'clock, to bring up the SW.
Do share your setup please. I am on 1.25mm confidential @52lbs. Which is the same set up as my retail v7. I am thinking of going 54lbs next.
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
BP and retail Blade are completely different racquets. Similar on paper but much different. Blade is easier to pickup and play for most players. Generous sweetspot, decent SW even in stock form but not overwhelming. String spacing is slightly more open on the blade for easier access to spin and power. BP is not as easy to play as it is a filled frame with a high SW compared to the blade. Tighter string spacing with a slightly smaller head size is less forgiving to play in general but those who can easily wield the frame are rewarded with exceptional directional control and depth control. I wouldn't say BP is more powerful or has more spin than the Blade as I have both frames with identical specs. For most people who are trying out, the BP will say it's powerful but it's mostly due to the high SW. You will need to choose your strings and tension more carefully on the BP to get its benefits. Can't be too soft or loose, the frame just over powers the strings and you won't get any benefits. You'll need to use a stiffer poly and find your tension. This is very important, as I have gone thru dozen strings and tensions to see it's full potential
Retail Blade, on the other hand, seems to be less sensitive and can be played with softer strings or looser tension.
If you're a recreational player, I would recommend staying with the retail Blade and add some weight to the top of the frame, 10 and 2 o'clock, to bring up the SW.
I actually added a leather grip and weight at 10 and 2 on my v7 normal blade which increased overall static weight about 10g total 349 6pts hl felt that the racquet was much more stable and I was able to keep the ball deeper better. Extra weight didn’t bother me so what you are saying about the normal blade is right in my case. Extra weight helps it.
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
So how many have dropped the retail blade for good and 100% switched to blade pros? Can’t wait to get mine in to test.
Also I normally use natural gut mains 56lbs / alu rough cross 52lbs in my normal 18x20 v7 blade should I try the same setup in the 18x20 BP or should I try a stiff full bed of poly? I can handle full poly now
 

HeavyHitter

New User
My current setup for the BP is as follows. This is what works for me after many different variations, might not work for everyone. 18x20, 338gr, 33cm, 348sw. Tension varies but generally its outdoor 23kg (main/cross), indoor 24/23kg. Luxilon 4G 1.25mm
I've tried Head hawk 1.25, Head hawk touch 1.25 and 1.30, Luxilon Original, Luxilon Alu, Lux Element, Yonex Poly strike 1.30, Solinco Hyper G 1.25, VS gut 1.25/ Lux alu hybrid. Runner up is Head hawk 1.25 but playability seems to drop suddenly where 4G drops more linear. Basically, the softer strings like Yonex poly strike and element played terribly in this frame for me. My serve wasn't good until I found the right specs and string setup, now it's effortless and heavy.
 

HeavyHitter

New User
So how many have dropped the retail blade for good and 100% switched to blade pros? Can’t wait to get mine in to test.
Also I normally use natural gut mains 56lbs / alu rough cross 52lbs in my normal 18x20 v7 blade should I try the same setup in the 18x20 BP or should I try a stiff full bed of poly? I can handle full poly now
I tried this combo but the gut broke too fast. I ended up at 27kg 3rd time trying it and it was pretty amazing but too much time and money for the gains. If you're using the hybrid for your arm, just keep it and raise the tension. Heavier SW requires higher tension to get the strings to snap, and it won't feel stiff with the high SW, even at 27kg. If you string too loose, the strings stretch too much at impact and won't get the snap back which will actually make it feel very harsh.
 

Dishiki

Rookie
How long does the Luxilon last? I am currently using Cyclone Tour/NRG2 and it is a great reliable setup. I am always tinkering though.
 

n80aoag

Rookie
Blade Pro V7 16x19 listed as 21.5mm cross section, and BP V8 16x19 listed as 21.46mm cross section. All other specs are the same between the two versions. I'm wondering if these are the same racquets with different paintjobs
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Blade Pro V7 16x19 listed as 21.5mm cross section, and BP V8 16x19 listed as 21.46mm cross section. All other specs are the same between the two versions. I'm wondering if these are the same racquets with different paintjobs
They should be since the BPs don't have any special "tech" (like Feel Flex - Now called FortyFive).
 

Dishiki

Rookie
I have dabbled with the pro staff 100, but have settled back into the Blade Pro 18. It is pretty much the perfect racquet for me. I started playing in the 80s so I have long strokes. This racquet is just perfect me. I have 2, but will probably get 2 more so that I don't have to buy anything else for the next 5 years or so.
 

HeavyHitter

New User
Blade Pro V7 16x19 listed as 21.5mm cross section, and BP V8 16x19 listed as 21.46mm cross section. All other specs are the same between the two versions. I'm wondering if these are the same racquets with different paintjobs
BP actually measures 22mm with a caliper. Not sure if there is a different way Wilson measures but its not 21,5
 

Slicehand

Semi-Pro
i love my blade man, i been flirting with another raquets but no, ill stick to this one until it breaks or is too worn out, it makes me work hard on the deffense but it just magnifies my strokes when i really go for them, you cant have it all
 

studpuffin

New User
The power comes from the plowthrough and relatively head-heaviness of the racket, rather than stiffness (like a Babolat, for example). As long as you're able to wield rackets with a higher SW, you should be able to get easy depth and power.
 

Alex7778

New User
The power comes from the plowthrough and relatively head-heaviness of the racket, rather than stiffness (like a Babolat, for example). As long as you're able to wield rackets with a higher SW, you should be able to get easy depth and power.
So it’s not like a pro stock pt57a where it is low powered and relies on good timing, technique and other things. The blade pro if you can wield it and hit the ball cleanly, you should get easy power and depth just from the rackets swing weight?
 

studpuffin

New User
While I have not used a PT57A before, I agree with the 2nd part of your post (if you can wield + hit cleanly, you'll definitely get that power). Really addictive feeling.
 

Alex7778

New User
While I have not used a PT57A before, I agree with the 2nd part of your post (if you can wield + hit cleanly, you'll definitely get that power). Really addictive feeling.
Yeah that’s what the pt57a lacks is that power. Amazing control, feel and touch with shots but on serve and groundstrokes it lacks that bit of power. Is the control with the Wilson blade pro very good and have you got the v7 of the blade pro? Hoping someone puts in a v8 blade pro 16x19 review into this thread
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
V8 blade pros have the new handle tech, so they are not the same as v7 BP’s. How different is yet to be seen, who’s got both and can comment? New reviews are needed. :)
OK, well, I too am interested in hearing comparisons. When I checked the US Pro Labs website, they didn't mention the new handle in the description and features, so I thought it wasn't being used on the BPs. The Tennisnerd review of the new Blade V8 suggested that it wasn't that much different from the V7 and that, therefore, it wasn't worth a switch. I assumed the same would then hold for the BPs, but I'm always interested in as many views as possible. Furthermore, the price differential between the v7 BP 16x19 (now on sale in Aus) and the V8 BP 16x19 (which you mentioned will be going up to $400 AUD), combined with what I mentioned previously, makes the v7 way too tempting. At the moment, this equates to $150 AUD off per racquet... which means you could get 3 v7 BPs for the price of 2 V8 BPs... and still pocket $50 bucks. :unsure::sneaky::whistle:
 

studpuffin

New User
Yeah that’s what the pt57a lacks is that power. Amazing control, feel and touch with shots but on serve and groundstrokes it lacks that bit of power. Is the control with the Wilson blade pro very good and have you got the v7 of the blade pro? Hoping someone puts in a v8 blade pro 16x19 review into this thread
Yes, I have the v7 Blade Pro 16x19. I found it easier to control with a lower SW racket (mine was 303 SW unstrung).
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
Mo
I tried this combo but the gut broke too fast. I ended up at 27kg 3rd time trying it and it was pretty amazing but too much time and money for the gains. If you're using the hybrid for your arm, just keep it and raise the tension. Heavier SW requires higher tension to get the strings to snap, and it won't feel stiff with the high SW, even at 27kg. If you string too loose, the strings stretch too much at impact and won't get the snap back which will actually make it feel very harsh.
Mostly using the hybrid because i can play every day and feel no pain in wrist / arm. Also I feel like the nat gut / poly gives me some extra free pop in my normal v7 18 blade. I’m tempted to try stiff poly in the BP though

also what gauge gut? I have to play in the thicker stuff otherwise it breaks too fast I think it’s Feds gauge
 

Crashbaby

Semi-Pro
Handle tech. It’s now a new stick. It got the same handle tech changes that the standard blade received according to the Wilson website.
Right now there are no reports from anyone hitting with an V8 BP. So it’s unknown if Wilson botched it or made it even better and if changed significantly, is it still an H22?
 

LiamMiguel

Rookie
Handle tech. It’s now a new stick. It got the same handle tech changes that the standard blade received according to the Wilson website.
Right now there are no reports from anyone hitting with an V8 BP. So it’s unknown if Wilson botched it or made it even better and if changed significantly, is it still an H22?
Just ordered some BP v8 through my school's corporate program, will receive it later this week or next week. I'll report and compare it to the v7 BP.
 

Addxyz

Professional
Handle tech. It’s now a new stick. It got the same handle tech changes that the standard blade received according to the Wilson website.
Right now there are no reports from anyone hitting with an V8 BP. So it’s unknown if Wilson botched it or made it even better and if changed significantly, is it still an H22?
That blurb about the handle looks like it's copied from the regular v8 page (same as the part about Forty-Five.). Do you guys really think there's flex feel in the BP? I haven't seen a picture of the butt cap on the Pro Labs page, so can't tell if it's the new handle or not.
 

Ultra 2

Professional
That blurb about the handle looks like it's copied from the regular v8 page (same as the part about Forty-Five.). Do you guys really think there's flex feel in the BP? I haven't seen a picture of the butt cap on the Pro Labs page, so can't tell if it's the new handle or not.
mine’s scheduled to arrive on Friday. Will change the grip to a leather one so I’ll post pics of what’s underneath.
 

Chidoc

New User
I have 2 of the BP 16's V7. Great for groundies but have had trouble getting pinpoint control. It sure is fun just bashing the ball with it. Very interested in how the V8 BPs play in the 18 pattern. My guess is not not different than the V7s.
 

Ultra 2

Professional
Ok, received the frame and it is a beautiful gloss (sorry, it's night time here, but it pops like new auto paint glossy). Sorry, not sure what's going on with flickr, but these are links so you need to click them on to view.

image5 | David Kim | Flickr

With plastic wrap over the grip, it weighs 309g

image6 | David Kim | Flickr

The butt cap looks to be changed and it gives a little bit of a knob cuff.

image3 | David Kim | Flickr

Still has the PU pallet and the butt cap looks to be a little more of a true 2 piece and the trap door is much larger

image1 | David Kim | Flickr

I really think the only change from the v7 to the v8 is the paint job and the new butt cap. Gonna string up this weekend and replace the grip and will post specs.

IMG_0316 | David Kim | Flickr
 
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Crashbaby

Semi-Pro
Ok, received the frame and it is a beautiful gloss (sorry, it's night time here, but it pops like new auto paint glossy). Sorry, not sure what's going on with flickr, but these are links so you need to click them on to view.

image5 | David Kim | Flickr

With plastic wrap over the grip, it weighs 309g

image6 | David Kim | Flickr

The butt cap looks to be changed and it gives a little bit of a knob cuff.

image3 | David Kim | Flickr

Still has the PU pallet and the butt cap looks to be a little more of a true 2 piece and the trap door is much larger

image1 | David Kim | Flickr
Gloss looks sweet!
 

Addxyz

Professional
Ok, received the frame and it is a beautiful gloss (sorry, it's night time here, but it pops like new auto paint glossy). Sorry, not sure what's going on with flickr, but these are links so you need to click them on to view.

image5 | David Kim | Flickr

With plastic wrap over the grip, it weighs 309g

image6 | David Kim | Flickr

The butt cap looks to be changed and it gives a little bit of a knob cuff.

image3 | David Kim | Flickr

Still has the PU pallet and the butt cap looks to be a little more of a true 2 piece and the trap door is much larger

image1 | David Kim | Flickr

I really think the only change from the v7 to the v8 is the paint job and the new butt cap. Gonna string up this weekend and replace the grip and will post specs.

IMG_0316 | David Kim | Flickr
I wonder if that's the same fused on butt cap like retail v8 or just a v8 butt cap stapled on?
 

FuzzyYellowBalls

Professional
Blade Pro people, who is using this stick as a rec player for regular matches, I'm curious. Some friends who are Blade devotees got Pros for fun just to hit with, but they aren't going from regular blades to the Pro. Mostly younger modern guys who play open/5.0 and were ex division 1 players. It's a sweet stick, but I bow down to it's heft and difficulty, too much for this mere mortal.
 

sphinx780

Hall of Fame
@FuzzyYellowBalls - I am and love it at a middling 4.5 level. I'm a more old school player and came from the RF97 with my bread and butter being a big serve, driving slice and volley's. My back hand (both slice and two handed) are my preferred weapons, I've never had a solid/consistent forehand so rallying from the baseline isn't my recipe for success. Not sure if that makes a difference, but trying the retail blade after decades with 12oz plus sticks just felt flimsy to me. The blade bro was the perfect compromise to add speed to my swing and keep the stability I'm used to. IMHO, the BP requires more of an old school-ish longer stroke to really reap the control.

Edit - BP specs 16M. All 4 strung up at 331g with a 33cm balance point. I've been fortunate, all of mine came in unstrung with plastic on between 308g to 316g but with balance points that allowed me to adjust and match.
 
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Chidoc

New User
I'm still having trouble controlling the 16 M, it's a blast to hit with but I don't get that pin point accuracy. Currently I've been playing with a heavily modded Vcore 95. My Vcore is 9pts HL SW 350. My BP is about the same only 8 pts HL but SW also about 350. My BPs came in heavy from the start
 

FuzzyYellowBalls

Professional
@FuzzyYellowBalls - I am and love it at a middling 4.5 level. I'm a more old school player and came from the RF97 with my bread and butter being a big serve, driving slice and volley's. My back hand (both slice and two handed) are my preferred weapons, I've never had a solid/consistent forehand so rallying from the baseline isn't my recipe for success. Not sure if that makes a difference, but trying the retail blade after decades with 12oz plus sticks just felt flimsy to me. The blade bro was the perfect compromise to add speed to my swing and keep the stability I'm used to. IMHO, the BP requires more of an old school-ish longer stroke to really reap the control.

Edit - BP specs 16M. All 4 strung up at 331g with a 33cm balance point. I've been fortunate, all of mine came in unstrung with plastic on between 308g to 316g but with balance points that allowed me to adjust and match.
That makes a ton of sense, if you can handle it I'm sure it's awesome at all 3 of those things. The regular blade guys I know are the whippy baseliners who punish with extreme spin and rarely slice or volley.
 

sphinx780

Hall of Fame
That makes a ton of sense, if you can handle it I'm sure it's awesome at all 3 of those things. The regular blade guys I know are the whippy baseliners who punish with extreme spin and rarely slice or volley.
Got it, yeah. For that style play, I think the timing would have to be split second perfect waaaaay too often or the ball would take off like a rocket.
 
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