Wilson Pro Labs: Ultra Pro v3 (18x20) Official Thread

Vicious49

Legend
I have 8 sets of the 18/20 v2 grommets (had 12 but sold 4 to a fellow 'holic) and 3 pairs of the 16/19 grommets. I have no use for the 16/19 grommets so feel free to PM me with an offer. It's the shipping that kind of doesn't make it worth it.
 

Felippe

New User
If there is will there is a way. Just got some grommets from Wilson. I had to order them from Australia but it was worth it. I used Australian fright forwarder and it was legit. So i think there is solution if you really need new grommets. Shipping to Europe was pretty cheap.
 

Masato

New User
I used the Prestige Pro as an alternative to the UP (18/20) (UP is too expensive here) the other day. The Prestige Pro is a modern racquet with modern help, not at all like the old style racquets like the UP (18/20).

Has anyone tried the HEAD PRO TOUR 2.0?
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Used the pro tour 2.0 very briefly. It’s a sweet frame but more demanding than the ultra. Smaller sweet spot. Heavier, but doesn’t need as much or any lead like the ultra either. I also have the prestige pro (touch and Xt versions) and yea they give you more juice but the feel of the ultra is too too good.
 

Chuonfood

Semi-Pro
I want to order UP v4 from TW, I’d like their matching services too. What specs should I ask them to match?
 

Felippe

New User
I want to order UP v4 from TW, I’d like their matching services too. What specs should I ask them to match?
Two of my rackets were identical on weight (306g) But they varied on balance almost 4mm. So to get SW, balance and static weight to be equal it was quite a effort.. manageable but if you prefer also low static weight that's going to be hard. If you like for example low static weight, even balanced racket, ask them to pick sub 305g pair. Mine were 306 and those are strung (4G) and with overgrip 330g. Not much room for adjusting with lead..

I haven't tried TW matching service. If it's just finding identical rackets from their stock that would be best (weight, balance and SW) that allows you to make your own modifications.
 

AmericanTwist

Professional
You're gonna add lead anyways just aim for similar frames. If you happen to get slightly heavier ones it is not a big deal. You add less lead. I have mine at 362g static so far and feel I could go heavier. Stock weight is super light and not optimal for most people.
 

Chuonfood

Semi-Pro
I haven't tried TW matching service. If it's just finding identical rackets from their stock that would be best (weight, balance and SW) that allows you to make your own modifications.
they will find identical racquets but do you think I should ask for lowest static weight first priority?
 

Felippe

New User
they will find identical racquets but do you think I should ask for lowest static weight first priority?
I want static weight to be just under 340g and still be able to put lead from 10 to 2. My go to SW is 338. Comparing to my frames I would have picked little bit more head light frames and couple grams lighter. Then I could have used lead more to head and shape power and feel more freely. Sorry if explained confusingly.

I think it depends your opinion what specs you want. If you want heavier racket the frame weight doesn't mean that much.

Here is what i did.

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I wanted lead to same areas but the other had to be cut narrower
 
I want static weight to be just under 340g and still be able to put lead from 10 to 2. My go to SW is 338. Comparing to my frames I would have picked little bit more head light frames and couple grams lighter. Then I could have used lead more to head and shape power and feel more freely. Sorry if explained confusingly.

I think it depends your opinion what specs you want. If you want heavier racket the frame weight doesn't mean that much.

Here is what i did.

IMG20230912082539.jpg

I wanted lead to same areas but the other had to be cut narrower
Is that desert bronze 4G in ultra pro v4?
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
My v4 UP 18x20s just arrived. What a glamorous paint job, maybe the best I've ever seen in person. And I hate to even bring up grommets, and I looked through this entire thread for the answer, but is there a chance UT grommets fit the v3/v4 UPs?
 

jhjm

New User
My 18x20 just arrived and was looking for string recommendations. Torn between 4G and Alu Power, maybe 4G soft but not sure what the difference would be vs 4G and how it would play in this frame. Thanks!
 

AmericanTwist

Professional
My 18x20 just arrived and was looking for string recommendations. Torn between 4G and Alu Power, maybe 4G soft but not sure what the difference would be vs 4G and how it would play in this frame. Thanks!
What level do you play at? How fast is your swing? I thought 4G was acceptable only for about 3-4 weeks. I played that string until there were super thin ribbon crosses at which point that area of thin strings really made the string bed very inconsistent.

I would go with a 1.20mm poly (I like Max power 18) or 16 or 17g syn gut (nylon is seriously underrated and it is comparatively inexpensive). Syn gut 47-51 lbs and full bed poly at 39-43 lbs works for me.
 

grungebob

Rookie
My 18x20 just arrived and was looking for string recommendations. Torn between 4G and Alu Power, maybe 4G soft but not sure what the difference would be vs 4G and how it would play in this frame. Thanks!
i liked 4g in the racquet at125. the control was good. so far my preferred string is head hawk touch in 17g / 125. haven't tried alu but i would just recommend going 125 or thinner
 
I don't hear a lot of Gut/Poly being used on this thread and am quite surprised. Plus all of the un-godly swing weights can be lessened by getting your juice from the Gut main and when the poly goes dead just cut it out and restring leaving the Gut. Just remember to start stinging on the unnotched other side and bump up the tension 2 or 3 pounds. Been doing this in my UT forever. The beauty of this stick is the foam in the head that gives it such a respectable twist weight. The thought of putting my shoulder through a 335-340 swing weight with my 1hb would be nuts. 5 grams of Silicone in the handle + 5g more of Tungsten in cotton (Both so Tungsten is all the way at end to tip it right) a bit of lead at tip for a 324 swing weight putting me all in at 335 static weight and 10pts head light. I trade blows with college kids all the time with no stability issues. Also if you look into the very affordable Briffidi swing weight machine (275 bucks) it will save you a fortune in the long run.
 

grungebob

Rookie
I don't hear a lot of Gut/Poly being used on this thread and am quite surprised. Plus all of the un-godly swing weights can be lessened by getting your juice from the Gut main and when the poly goes dead just cut it out and restring leaving the Gut. Just remember to start stinging on the unnotched other side and bump up the tension 2 or 3 pounds. Been doing this in my UT forever. The beauty of this stick is the foam in the head that gives it such a respectable twist weight. The thought of putting my shoulder through a 335-340 swing weight with my 1hb would be nuts. 5 grams of Silicone in the handle + 5g more of Tungsten in cotton (Both so Tungsten is all the way at end to tip it right) a bit of lead at tip for a 324 swing weight putting me all in at 335 static weight and 10pts head light. I trade blows with college kids all the time with no stability issues. Also if you look into the very affordable Briffidi swing weight machine (275 bucks) it will save you a fortune in the long run.
i never considered using gut before until i used this racquet because i have always broken strings insanely fast, even when using 15 gauge ALU Power. for some reason, even a head i prestige mid won't keep strings nearly as long as this racquet will.
 
Dense patterns make strings last longer...

I have gut/poly on one of my frames. I will say that 50 lbs at 40F ambient temps is too tight!
I String my Gut at 43 pounds and the Poly at 40. My ERT measures it at 48 right off the stringer. One day out and it levels and stays solid at 45. At that point it plays perfect. I get solid action off the string bed with a really heavy ball.
 

VGLB

New User
Anyone with views on the best placing of string savers in this racquet? I have played today for the first time with them and the experience was pretty positive. I wonder where to place them in a 18x20 racquet (gut+poly crosses) and how many.
Thanks for your views.
 

EggSalad

Hall of Fame
For anyone playing or have played Gut/Poly in the UP 18M, was your set up:

1. 1.25 Gut / 1.20 Poly
2. 1.30 Gut / 1.25 Poly
3. Something else?
 

AmericanTwist

Professional
Klip Legend 1.35 (while it was available), 1.30mm / 1.25 max power at 52 lbs for late Fall/winter use then at high 40s F. I need to restring for early summer temps so targeting high 70s F. Will probably try 54 lbs. with 1.30 Kilp and 1.20 max power.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
any chance you can provide some insight on the reason for the thinner crosses? wouldn't the thinner poly crosses cut into the gut more?

For me it was because
1) a thicker cross especially like Max Power felt like a board on some shots due to my weaknesses.
2) Thinner cross also increases launch angle which is an absolutely required bonus on the 18m version for me
3) Mains and cross tensions stay close... mentally feels good and lower overall main tension due to thickness
4) The Ultra Pro is SUPER GENTLE on string anyway. Why try too hard to save the mains?
 

Felippe

New User
For anyone playing or have played Gut/Poly in the UP 18M, was your set up:

1. 1.25 Gut / 1.20 Poly
2. 1.30 Gut / 1.25 Poly
3. Something else?
3. I have tested some variations this spring. I've played 130 gut with 125, 128 and 130 polys. 128 being best for me.
 
For what it's worth, does anybody know about Ultra Tour 95 J (not Kei Nishikori's one, the lower weight one) with 293 g, 27.25 inch, 16x20 pattern, will give similar "feel" only with different specs?

And what advantages do you get from preferring UP 18m to similar control classic sticks such as 6.1 95 18x20 or Prestige Pro Aux 2.0?
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
And what advantages do you get from preferring UP 18m to similar control classic sticks such as 6.1 95 18x20 or Prestige Pro Aux 2.0?

Its just another option at this point. The mystique is that its a "variation" of the H19 pro stock stick which was designed by Wilson to convert PT57 and Prestige Players to them (at the time a lot of the tour used that style of racket) and it has a slightly dampened (due to foam) but very classic feel to it. Its like a slightly more user friendly slightly more polarized IG Prestige MP. Brilliant Feel & Feedback - some say it the best ever. Little help but when *everything is perfect* is gives a BIG BALL which many rackets are not capable of despite being overall more easier to use and produce an average higher quality ball. For me an additional benefit is - errors stay in and at my level the nothing balls I get due to lack of help and my low 4.0 level - are not punished by my opponents.

The few 6.1 95 18x20s (k-factor, n-code) I tried are a crisper, more direct layup with less pocketing. Errors were magnified. Typically 355-60g / 325-340sw so the overall weight tends to hurt it (for me atleast) as well. Prestige Pro Aux 2.0? No idea. I tried the Prestige Tour 16x19 Aux 2.0, liked it but feedback was not as good as the UP/UT but was a little too loopy for my taste.

Apologies if my feedback sounds like generic word salad like most posts here but that's the best I can do.
 
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cg50

New User
Does anyone know if the Ultra Pro 18x20 V4 Grommets from Tennis Warehouse will :

A) fit the v3 18x20?
B) are the actual 18x20 not the 16x19 grommets?


Thanks!
 
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