Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85

A gearhead friend of mine that works for Turbo West did a boroscope drill flexion test at .0450 and said the BLX 85 did contain Basalt Crystals from a large southeastern Basalt mine that Wilson barters bowling equipment for chunx of Basalt from the mine's owner/operator.

I do believe the BLX 85 is far underpowered compaired to other models I own that I've tested this week. I have strung all with NXT Tour 17 at 62. All of them play different.

My 1995 China Tao is far superior. Epic greatness. Chinese historically significant weapon of disgusting proportions.
 
^Dali, you failed to arrive recently, yet you participated in the poetry renaissance that Club Chopin is involved in. For this, consider us even.
 
A gearhead friend of mine that works for Turbo West did a boroscope drill flexion test at .0450 and said the BLX 85 did contain Basalt Crystals from a large southeastern Basalt mine that Wilson barters bowling equipment for chunx of Basalt from the mine's owner/operator.

I do believe the BLX 85 is far underpowered compaired to other models I own that I've tested this week. I have strung all with NXT Tour 17 at 62. All of them play different.

My 1995 China Tao is far superior. Epic greatness. Chinese historically significant weapon of disgusting proportions.

If that's true, that means the new PS's are just a paintjob :)
 
Now that would be awesomeness.

A "new tech" racket painted to look like an old one.

Wilson BLX90s painted like PST90s!

Head YouTek Prestige Mids with PC600 cosmetics!

Babolat PDGTs with the swirly?

It'll be ANARCHY!
 
A gearhead friend of mine that works for Turbo West did a boroscope drill flexion test at .0450 and said the BLX 85 did contain Basalt Crystals from a large southeastern Basalt mine that Wilson barters bowling equipment for chunx of Basalt from the mine's owner/operator.

I do believe the BLX 85 is far underpowered compaired to other models I own that I've tested this week. I have strung all with NXT Tour 17 at 62. All of them play different.

My 1995 China Tao is far superior. Epic greatness. Chinese historically significant weapon of disgusting proportions.

the new BLX 85 is softer than the old and re-release ps85.. so it's a little bit under power compare to the old, crisp feeling ones.
 
so after three additional hitting sessions, the demo started to become surprisingly comfortable. i can only surmise that the racquet forced me to concentrate more on mechanics. as a result, the frequency of mishits diminished and i really started to dial in my groundstrokes and serves. volleys were still sketchy, but i hit enough of them decently that i could attribute the poor ones to the aforementioned inconsistency and laziness.

overall, the good moments far outweighed the bad. maneuverability on reflex shots was a slight issue, but i think prolonged use would help me adapt to the extra weight. also, no tennis elbow to speak of, which was a problem with previous versions. the lowered flex likely helped, yet unlike others, i didn't find that made it difficult to counter heavier shots.

it seems i may have demoed myself into purchasing one when the new batch arrives. :)
Correct.

I gave up using my original SV PS 6.0 85s about five years ago. The racquet will force you to concentrate harder, have more precise timing, watch the ball more, swing more exactly, and in general have better mechanics.

I just was not up to working that hard mentally and physically on every single shot. It was exhausting.
 
I actually like the newer versions of the PS85 especially this reissued version. My only gripe about the PS in the past is the stiffness was a little too much for my arm. Now that it is softer it feels awesome.
 
Can anyone show a pic comparing hitting area of blx90 to 6.0 85

I know that is it only 5 sq inches difference between the two racquets but Im finding it hard to visual what that will look like.

I've never had the chance to play with an 85sq racquet so can anyone show a pic that compares the hitting area of both racquets - like putting a 6.0 85 flush against a Wilson 90sq (n/k/blx) ? I'd just like to see how significant the difference is, especially the string area of each racquet.

Thanks to anyone who can do that.
 
The racquet will force you to concentrate harder, have more precise timing, watch the ball more, swing more exactly, and in general have better mechanics.

and this was evident when i returned to the 6.0 95. hitting primarily with the 85 for a week rendered the 95 a virtually effortless racquet. however, though it's still more than serviceable, its deficiencies compared to the 85 (even this new version, which is more similar to the 95 spec-wise than the earlier models) were amplified: less control, less stability, less bite.

i didn't feel i had to work much harder, but the less i'm focused, the more the performance suffers. i suppose that's true in general, and of any racquet of this calibre. that said, no amount of focus can overcome my physical limitations. there are many frames (kps88, blx90, st. vincent, etc.) i couldn't handle unless i was practicing 14 hours per week (wherein i would improve to the point i could wield such sticks easily).

the old TW review of the 95 called it "the 6.0 for the rest of us." i'd label this incarnation "the 85 for the rest of us."
 
I know that is it only 5 sq inches difference between the two racquets but Im finding it hard to visual what that will look like.

I've never had the chance to play with an 85sq racquet so can anyone show a pic that compares the hitting area of both racquets - like putting a 6.0 85 flush against a Wilson 90sq (n/k/blx) ? I'd just like to see how significant the difference is, especially the string area of each racquet.

Thanks to anyone who can do that.

It's not overlaid like you're asking, but check out Jack & Coke's thread where he compares the head sizes of various rackets.....especially a Wilson Pro Staff Midsize and some recent 90s.
 
I know that is it only 5 sq inches difference between the two racquets but Im finding it hard to visual what that will look like.

I've never had the chance to play with an 85sq racquet so can anyone show a pic that compares the hitting area of both racquets - like putting a 6.0 85 flush against a Wilson 90sq (n/k/blx) ? I'd just like to see how significant the difference is, especially the string area of each racquet.

Thanks to anyone who can do that.
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It is not possible to make a racket exact the same as 15 years ago. For all who think that it is BLX technology: I ordered 2 frames, one has been cracked by a friends mistake. The frame has been sawn through and yes: It is foam filled, there is the same Kevlar/Graphit inner braid and the Graphit outer.
 
It is not possible to make a racket exact the same as 15 years ago. For all who think that it is BLX technology: I ordered 2 frames, one has been cracked by a friends mistake. The frame has been sawn through and yes: It is foam filled, there is the same Kevlar/Graphit inner braid and the Graphit outer.

I demand photos!
 
Crisp feel?

Agree if the new ones lack the crisp feel of old then they're no good.

Wonder who will be the first to sell his BLX 85. :roll:

Anyone else can confirm that it's less crisp beside JoelDali?
I love the crisp feel especially for punch volley and overhead.
 
Anyone else can confirm that it's less crisp beside JoelDali? I love the crisp feel especially for punch volley and overhead.

i could definitely tell there was a difference in feel. i don't know if that necessarily translated into "less crisp." i would call it a not-as-pronounced crisp. strings can also affect this. i suspect it would've been more crisp had i been hitting with a hybrid or kevlar setup.
 
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Well, I got my PS85 yesterday and took it out for a quick 40 min hit earlier this morning before going to work. Didn't have time yet for a more extensive hit, and I was only able to take a few serves. This is the first time I've ever tried this racquet, but for some reason it didn't feel that different to me. The KPS88 has been my main stick for over 2 years, and to me, the PS85 didn't feel that different. I've read a lot of people here that have used both have said that they are two different beasts all together. For me, though, the 85 basically just felt like a slightly lighter version of my 88's. That was the puzzling part to me. Looking at specs alone, I was thinking the 85 would be significantly lighter than my 88's, but it didn't. Maybe it's just a case of Wilson QC.

Anyways, I will be hitting with it much more extensively this weekend, but as of right now, the 85 didn't really impress me all too much. It just seems that what I can do with the 85, I can just do with the 88 better. But then again, lets see how I feel after this weekend and I play some sets with it and hit with some of my other hitting partners.

I love the PS88. When i first demoed it over a year ago i hated it. However the more you play with it and get used to the weight, it is truly an amazing racquet. There's nothing I can't do with it. It is an extension of my hand. If I thought my strokes were great with my K90, with the PS88 everything is even better. The frame does so much of the work for you and the feel is soooo plush. It's a far far more stable frame then the K90 and BLX90's. If you have a one hand backhand, this is the perfect frame for you. As far as the 85's, in my collection I have one Saint Vincent 85, two Chinese 85's and one Taiwanese 85.
 
Anyone else can confirm that it's less crisp beside JoelDali?
I love the crisp feel especially for punch volley and overhead.

I think it's definitely a softer racquet. My guess is that Wilson put some basalt in it. The difference between the old and new PS85s is the difference between the K 6.1 and the BLX 6.1.
Still a nice racquet, though.
 
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I think it's definitely a softer racquet. My guess is that Wilson put some basalt in it. The difference between the old and new PS85s is the difference between the K 6.1 and the BLX 6.1.
Still a nice racquet, though.

I can confirm it's very soft, because I use it with no grip and only 2 wilson pro overgrips. I have no pain.

When I compare this to my ps & hps 6.0 95, they sometimes give me pain on offcenter shots.

Oh and I'm using black code 52lbs on the ps 85 :-)
 
Now that I have received my PS85 and finally got the chance to hit with it I feel I gotta make my review of the legend.

Just to put up the scene.
I played before with the Pure Storm Ltd (non gt), with no lead and strung with multies. I play semi-western with an innuendo of western forehand, and a quite flat 2HBH. Used to have awesome volleys that misteriously disappeared after a two year hiatus.

My brother used to play with a Tour Diablo Mid, leaded up to something like 370-375 gramms, strung with multies. He plays with semi-western, more like an eastern forehand, one handed backhand. All court playa who sometimes struggles with the backhands.

Now, although we usually don't play with same sticks, here our wishes were the same, so both of us switched to the PS85. He had no concerns whatsoever about the change. I was a little concerned about the weight (just a little) and a little more about the head size affecting my 2HBH. We did not modify the sticks, only put a TurnaGrip (yeah, yeah, I know it sounds like a cliche, but from the very beggining we played with TurnaGrip).

The overall impression was awesome even before the first hit. The stick feels good in the hands. Then, from the very first stroke it felt so different to the Pure Storm Ltd!! Can't explain in operative terminologies the feeling, but can only say I loooved it.

On the forehands had no problems at all. As a matter of fact, the stick has surprised me a lot. First of all - power. It was so damn powerful, that my main concern was to adapt to that power. Then was the spin! The stick is small, but god does it spin the ball! My brother who never really liked to spin, and therefore never did so, was hitting the balls with such a spin! I just could not adapt to his "new" backhand. If before it was completely flat, now after bouncing it just "jumped" on me. His forehands were also heavy. I loved the control of the racquet. Yes, I did shack the ball from time to time, but not really more than with the PSLtd. And even when I did shack, it still ended inside the court because of such a heavy spin.

Then the backhands. Really did not have any problems with the size of the stick. Yet again, the only thing that needed adaptation was the inmense power. My brother did not notice it so much, but guess a 370g Diablo hits harder that the PSltd.... The slice was also very nice - loved it. Yet again, sometimes shacked the ball, but I put all of my body weight into the shots, so even when I shack the ball it still kicks *** to most people.

At the net I did not really practice a lot, but really loved it the few times I did come to the net. Did not have any troubles with maneuvrability. Stability was nice, as well as control. Yet again, the power, I still gotta learn to control so much power!

Serves, really did not have time to serve much, but the few times I did serve I liked it. The serves were not weaker than normal, and it's alright, cause I don't really imagine my serves to be any more powerful. It is funny, but I usually injure most ppl I play with when I serve. I don't really control the direction, just try to make it in. But it clocks so fast that sometimes they hit the oponnents, and it hit them hard... ;)

Overall I just say one thing - if that stick goes out again in August, I'll get one more for sure!!! As long as you have the strength to weild it, you can just dance with it on the court. I really loved my tennis with it. You don't need to force anything, just swing it long and smooth, and everything will be just fine!!

Would be grateful to other playas who used this stick to give a comparison - what is closer to THIS PS85, the Youtek Prestige Mid or the BLX90?

Thanks for your attention.
BLX90 is way closer of the two frames you mentioned. The YouTek Prestige Mid is absolutely and i mean absolutely nothing like a PS85.
 
Looks like TW is out of the PS85's now - it's not even listed on the Wilson Racquets page. Spencer said more are coming in September - hope that's still true :)
 
After playing a little with the PS85's my first problems started to appear, and I think it has to do with Wilson's quality control. The leather grip started to go off in the middle, right where the left hand on 2HBH lies. I did not notice it, but when I saw the huge "bulb" on the turnagrip and took it off, I saw that the leather grip has gone off in the middle, and it was just one "turn" of grip that got off. I unrolled it untill the place where it went off, and as it still had glue, I just regripped it, but then after 40 mins of playing it went off again. I thought that it was just my stick, but when I started playing with my bro's PS85 (he did not like the handle shape, got way too much used to Babolat's handle after so many years) it has also gone off!!!! I guess to him the leather grip did not go off because he plays 1HBH, and it usually gets off where the left hand goes on a 2HBH.... What do you think might be the reason? Maybe I should change the leather grip for another leather, like for example Babolat's leather? Just to avoid unneeded questions I say, that I play the stick with a TurnaGrip over the leather.
Other than that the stick is great. I got it stringed at 24-23 kg, but it is very powerful. On the other hand, it is more comfy to my elbow this way, and the spin is monstrous.
Any recommendations regarding the leather grip will be very much appreciated!!
 
I finally got to hit with the re-issue last night.

I have no idea how this racquet compares historically with the vintage versions, but this racquet felt really, really solid to me. I was busting forehands and felt in control of the ball.

Volleys were also jumping off the racquet with a nice punch.

I have a two-handed back hand so using such a small frame is never going to work. However, when messing around I can hit a decent one-handed backhand. With this racquet I was hitting the one-hander like never before. I don't expect that to last, but it was fun.

I had a lot of trouble with half-volleys shanking off the frame. I also had trouble serving.

Overall, after only one night of hitting, I love this racquet. Alas, it probably doesn't suit my 2 handed bh game and I don't see myself changing to a one-hander just for this racquet.

I may buy one once the second batch comes in just to have one. That sounds silly, but I really like this racquet and the history of the 85 Pro Staff.
 
I finally got to hit with the re-issue last night.

I have no idea how this racquet compares historically with the vintage versions, but this racquet felt really, really solid to me. I was busting forehands and felt in control of the ball.

Volleys were also jumping off the racquet with a nice punch.

I have a two-handed back hand so using such a small frame is never going to work. However, when messing around I can hit a decent one-handed backhand. With this racquet I was hitting the one-hander like never before. I don't expect that to last, but it was fun.

I had a lot of trouble with half-volleys shanking off the frame. I also had trouble serving.

Overall, after only one night of hitting, I love this racquet. Alas, it probably doesn't suit my 2 handed bh game and I don't see myself changing to a one-hander just for this racquet.

I may buy one once the second batch comes in just to have one. That sounds silly, but I really like this racquet and the history of the 85 Pro Staff.

I wouldn't let the fact that you have a 2-handed backhand dissuade you from using/purchasing this racquet. I do just fine with it. And I dare not compare us to the pros, but Courier comes to mind.
 
I was going to order one tonight! but no place to do it! LOL! How is TW going to make any money? Ready and now nothing to buy!
 
I wouldn't let the fact that you have a 2-handed backhand dissuade you from using/purchasing this racquet. I do just fine with it. And I dare not compare us to the pros, but Courier comes to mind.
And don't forget Evert, Pierce, Krickstein, Connors, amongst others. In fact, the PS 6.0 85 was originally designed for Connors. All used two-handed backhands.
 
I hit with this racquet again last night and my strokes were even better.

The forehand is crisp and it seems I can direct this shot deep into the corners with ease. Volleys are solid and half-volleys are starting to come around.

Still can't serve with it yet.

The most unbelievable thing is how well I am hitting the one-handed bh. It's almost as if it is a miracle of sorts how it comes off this racquet. I'll know if its legit today during match play. If not, I'll see if I can hit the old trusty 2-hander with it.

I have experienced terrible tennis elbow problems the past 3 years (but pain free so far this year). I am anxious to see if this racquet causes me problems in that area as well.

It'll take a special racquet to make me consider putting aside the Pro Tour 280s. But I love this PS 85.
 
I hit with this racquet again last night and my strokes were even better.

The forehand is crisp and it seems I can direct this shot deep into the corners with ease. Volleys are solid and half-volleys are starting to come around.

Still can't serve with it yet.

The most unbelievable thing is how well I am hitting the one-handed bh. It's almost as if it is a miracle of sorts how it comes off this racquet. I'll know if its legit today during match play. If not, I'll see if I can hit the old trusty 2-hander with it.

I have experienced terrible tennis elbow problems the past 3 years (but pain free so far this year). I am anxious to see if this racquet causes me problems in that area as well.

It'll take a special racquet to make me consider putting aside the Pro Tour 280s. But I love this PS 85.

Great to hear. This frame gives you back what you put in to it. If you're not satisfied with some aspect of your game of specific stroke, practice will be very rewarding with this frame. It's also very fine-tuneable because it is so precise. You feel EVERYTHING.

I use the 88 now but it's identical to the 85 in that if something isn't right with a shot, I always know it's not the racquet's fault, it's my fault.

Some call this "unforgiving" but to me perfecting your technique is the name of the game, just like in golf. I want a stick that forces me to have excellent technique; one that doesn't let mistakes slide.

Add a little lead tape if you need more plow through from the baseline and more authority on volleys. If your timing and body-position is right, the racquet will put the ball EXACTLY where you want it to go.

Demanding and rewarding. That's the way I like my women and my racquets.
 
I finally got to test out the re-issued ps85! Compared to my older ps85's, there was not a big difference in stiffness, but my older ps85's are 10+ years old, the late Chinese ones with blk butt caps. I give the new ps85 an A+, I need to buy more. If I had known that they were going to reissue the ps85's, I wouldn't have stocked up on the kps88's, oh well. I've been using the ps85's since the 1990's and ever since.
 
After playing a little with the PS85's my first problems started to appear, and I think it has to do with Wilson's quality control. The leather grip started to go off in the middle, right where the left hand on 2HBH lies. I did not notice it, but when I saw the huge "bulb" on the turnagrip and took it off, I saw that the leather grip has gone off in the middle, and it was just one "turn" of grip that got off. I unrolled it untill the place where it went off, and as it still had glue, I just regripped it, but then after 40 mins of playing it went off again. I thought that it was just my stick, but when I started playing with my bro's PS85 (he did not like the handle shape, got way too much used to Babolat's handle after so many years) it has also gone off!!!! I guess to him the leather grip did not go off because he plays 1HBH, and it usually gets off where the left hand goes on a 2HBH.... What do you think might be the reason? Maybe I should change the leather grip for another leather, like for example Babolat's leather? Just to avoid unneeded questions I say, that I play the stick with a TurnaGrip over the leather.
Other than that the stick is great. I got it stringed at 24-23 kg, but it is very powerful. On the other hand, it is more comfy to my elbow this way, and the spin is monstrous.
Any recommendations regarding the leather grip will be very much appreciated!!

This may be the reason they're not on sale....a recall of sorts.
 
I hit with this racquet again last night and my strokes were even better.

The forehand is crisp and it seems I can direct this shot deep into the corners with ease. Volleys are solid and half-volleys are starting to come around.

Still can't serve with it yet.


The most unbelievable thing is how well I am hitting the one-handed bh. It's almost as if it is a miracle of sorts how it comes off this racquet. I'll know if its legit today during match play. If not, I'll see if I can hit the old trusty 2-hander with it.

I have experienced terrible tennis elbow problems the past 3 years (but pain free so far this year). I am anxious to see if this racquet causes me problems in that area as well.

It'll take a special racquet to make me consider putting aside the Pro Tour 280s. But I love this PS 85.
Interesting because the serve is usually the best shot for most people using the PS 6.0 85, myself included. :)

My forehand is also great with it as I get more spin and penetration and it feels rock solid. However, my one-handed backhand is not as good as with the Tour 90's or KPS88. BTW, all Wilson ProStaff based racquets are great for 1HBHs. :) Also, my volleys are also not quite as good yet but I think I just need to get more used to the balance of the racquet.
 
Interesting because the serve is usually the best shot for most people using the PS 6.0 85, myself included. :)

My forehand is also great with it as I get more spin and penetration and it feels rock solid. However, my one-handed backhand is not as good as with the Tour 90's or KPS88. BTW, all Wilson ProStaff based racquets are great for 1HBHs. :) Also, my volleys are also not quite as good yet but I think I just need to get more used to the balance of the racquet.

Same here. My serve clicked right away with it. Somehow with almost less work.
 
Yeah, grip slippage is a reason for a recall......

But does the grip slippage have to do with the stick itself or it is all about the grip? I mean, if I change the original leather grip (for a Babolat leather for example), will it still slip or not?
 
But does the grip slippage have to do with the stick itself or it is all about the grip? I mean, if I change the original leather grip (for a Babolat leather for example), will it still slip or not?

Not if you wrappet wright.

LoL @ slippage conspiracies.

The stock Wilson leather grips suck and are prone to gaps being formed over time. This isn't a recall issue.

LoL
 
But does the grip slippage have to do with the stick itself or it is all about the grip? I mean, if I change the original leather grip (for a Babolat leather for example), will it still slip or not?

I didn't have to worry about the grip issue as I replaced mine with my regular tacky grip. This racket actually improved my first serve % and end up winning more points than with my old PSCs. My forehand and backhand are more consistent and on mark due to it's lower swingweight and headlight balance. Played 3 close sets today and won 2 with the 3rd set losing only on tiebreak. I came in to the court with 3 rackets inside my bag- 1 PSC 6.1 95 (my bread and butter), the re-issued Slazenger Pro braided and the PS85. I pulled the PS85 and never looked back! I've decided that this PS85 belong in the court and meant to be played and not as a conversation piece! :)
 
Not if you wrappet wright.

LoL @ slippage conspiracies.

The stock Wilson leather grips suck and are prone to gaps being formed over time. This isn't a recall issue.

LoL

So you mean that I wrapped it wrong? Well, it came this way, as you say - wrongly wrapped. And who is to blame? Definitely not me. Today I've taken it to the local shop to change the grip and put a Babolat leather. The funny thing is that the pallet has not been treated in any way - it was all dirty and greasy.... And I had to pay more that 10 bucks for the grip. Wonder what TW can do about it, because they are responsible for the product they sell. And even though the Wilson's leather grip suck and gets gapped over time, it should not get so in a matter of one week!!
 
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