***Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 95 Club***

Holliman

Rookie
I have a PSC original and just found a new old stock six.one 95 BLX from 2014. I love them both. I'm not a seasoned enough player to compete with the Classic but use it to practice with. I love the BLX. Spin and control are awesome and it has just enough power when tapped to not get pushed around on the courts. I grew up playing Prince and Yonex and got beat quite often by Pro Staff's in the early 90's. I wish I would have not been so stubborn and tried the Six.One 95's much earlier.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
After almost a year of playing with the 2014 6.1 16X18 here are my thoughts.

My level of tennis dropped for the first 5 months. The launch angle was too great and it messed up my head/technique. Then I started stringing it a lot higher and that helped. Thicker gauges helped.

Ultimately, I was hitting the ball a little late because of the hesitation I had. Now it is not a problem.

This racket can't take any weight in the hoop. Literally, any more than 3 grams and the racket starts launching. No idea why but it almost feels like the racket stiffens up on contact and the power is crazy. I had to add some weight in the handles. Currently have a super dead poly in there at 1.31mm strung 55lbs. Frame feels stiffer than before, but with new balls it is comfortable.

I am now at the best I have ever played. Started beating 4.1 players and taking sets off of a 3.1.
 

beltsman

Legend
Finally bought one of these classics. It'll be nice to have the 6.1 95 in my arsenal. I'm excited to hit with it.
 

gino

Hall of Fame
Finally bought one of these classics. It'll be nice to have the 6.1 95 in my arsenal. I'm excited to hit with it.
Good for you. An amazing and versatile stick. With a heavy static weight, the frame provides effortless power. Nice spin potential, exception plow on the backhand slice, and some great touch on volleys and overheads. Dare i say that the PSC possesses Babolat-esque power? I love my two 6.1 classics almost more than any other sticks I own. Oddly enough, they feel a little longer than my other 6.1 frames. Could be due to the spacing between the end of the handle and the bottom of the throat.
 

beltsman

Legend
Good for you. An amazing and versatile stick. With a heavy static weight, the frame provides effortless power. Nice spin potential, exception plow on the backhand slice, and some great touch on volleys and overheads. Dare i say that the PSC possesses Babolat-esque power? I love my two 6.1 classics almost more than any other sticks I own. Oddly enough, they feel a little longer than my other 6.1 frames. Could be due to the spacing between the end of the handle and the bottom of the throat.
I'm excited to to try it, because I love this weight range. Also excited to touch hit with a 95 again after being with 100 for a long while.

My genesis is PS 90 to PCG 100 to extreme pro. Well, that's a summary of it. I got addicted to the touch, plow through, stability, and control of the PS 90, but wanted more power and more forgiveness, especially for serving. But I wanted to keep the classic feel. Hence the PCG 100. The PCG 100 was nearly perfect for me, but just lacking in power because it was flexy.

I always wanted flexy because of my 1HBH, but then I switched to 2HBH which opened up the world's of stiff racquets. I searched for a stiffer PCG 100 any found the extreme pro.

Now, I wonder if I can find similar power and spin in a 95 frame. Hence, me being here.
 

edelp

Rookie
beltsman, I am interested in reading your feedback and whether the Classic is powerful. I have a nice ProStaff 95 form 2014 and it has a lot of good characteristics but not power and stability in stock form. Actually one of the most powerlacking frames. Still a pleasure to play with...
 

Pre980

Rookie
I played with the K Factor 6.1 (18×20) for quite a while, until I "upgraded" to the PS97 (16×19) at the end of 2014. I felt like my game dropped off in a major way, but tried to press on with the 97 through spring of last year. Finally, I started to demo a few different frames--Head Prestige Graphene XT MP, Prince Tour 100, Wilson Blade. None gave me what I was looking for, although I bought the Head (great price on ****). I played with it through the summer and had some good results, but still felt like I was missing something.
Then, late last year, I went back to **** and bought two BLX 6.1 95 rackets (2012 model?). Since then, everything has fallen into place for me. I should have known from the start that the 6.1 is home for me.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
beltsman, I am interested in reading your feedback and whether the Classic is powerful. I have a nice ProStaff 95 form 2014 and it has a lot of good characteristics but not power and stability in stock form. Actually one of the most powerlacking frames. Still a pleasure to play with...
The 2014 Pro Staff line is a 6.0 style box beam not the 6.1 'classic beam'. Yours is more similar to the 6.0 Original 95. Their naming conventions make it tough not to be confused.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Back in the club. My new racket was hurting my wrist and elbow, it was getting worse so today i decided to go back. My arm hasnt felt better in some time (terrible on sat), it was like therapy.

I think the heavier rackets are good for injuries, i was watching someone doing curls. The emphasis was on let it down slowly, not lifting, its kind of a similar motion with a heavier racket, like the elbow was being compacted.

I have 7 stock and 4 no idea (someone sold 39 blacked out that weigh 12.8 unstrung, i havent found any lead yet). These are a 3/8, 1/2 and 5/8, the blacks are 1/2's. May move up to a bigger grip for my wrist

 
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gino

Hall of Fame
I played with the K Factor 6.1 (18×20) for quite a while, until I "upgraded" to the PS97 (16×19) at the end of 2014. I felt like my game dropped off in a major way, but tried to press on with the 97 through spring of last year. Finally, I started to demo a few different frames--Head Prestige Graphene XT MP, Prince Tour 100, Wilson Blade. None gave me what I was looking for, although I bought the Head (great price on ****). I played with it through the summer and had some good results, but still felt like I was missing something.
Then, late last year, I went back to **** and bought two BLX 6.1 95 rackets (2012 model?). Since then, everything has fallen into place for me. I should have known from the start that the 6.1 is home for me.
This. This is the journey of any true 6.1-purist.
 

gino

Hall of Fame
Back in the club. My new racket was hurting my wrist and elbow, it was getting worse so today i decided to back. My arm hasnt felt better in some time (terrible on sat), it was like therapy.

I think the heavier rackets are good for injuries, i was watching someone doing curls. The emphasis was on let it down slowly, not lifting, its kind of a similar motion with a heavier racket, like the elbow was being compacted.

I have 7 stock and 4 no idea (someone sold 39 blacked out that weigh 12.8 unstrung, i havent found any lead yet). These are a 3/8, 1/2 and 5/8, the blacks are 1/2's. May move up to a bigger grip for my wrist

Love it, what's the story behind the blacked-out 6.1's?
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Love it, what's the story behind the blacked-out 6.1's?
**** purchase, i warped my old trisys 260's with too much stringing. Wanted to stock up on what i like

Some guy had black ncodes on **** at like $60 each and i took a chance. But they were much heavier and played really solid, so i picked up 2 more. He ran out but said a player dropped off 39 of them.

Im thinking nestor or del portro. He didnt give name but other info, got a 5 star

I did have a lot of fun with my friends when people were wondering about the new rf. Racket feels amazing but like 13.5oz. I let this one guy hit with it that was a 6.0 using it, then went back to 5.5 with his ps85. But 125mph serves and he was clowning and did 3 delpo forehands in a row, all hit the line and put a dent in the fence :)
 

gino

Hall of Fame
**** purchase, i warped my old trisys 260's with too much stringing. Wanted to stock up on what i like

Some guy had black ncodes on **** at like $60 each and i took a chance. But they were much heavier and played really solid, so i picked up 2 more. He ran out but said a player dropped off 39 of them.

Im thinking nestor or del portro. He didnt give name but other info, got a 5 star

I did have a lot of fun with my friends when people were wondering about the new rf. Racket feels amazing but like 13.5oz. I let this one guy hit with it that was a 6.0 using it, then went back to 5.5 with his ps85. But 125mph serves and he was clowning and did 3 delpo forehands in a row, all hit the line and put a dent in the fence :)
Love the context, thanks for detailing all that. The nCode 6.1 is one of my favorite iterations. Sounds like you may have a batch of PSC 6.1's on your hands though. Especially if they are coming from a pro player.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
**** purchase, i warped my old trisys 260's with too much stringing. Wanted to stock up on what i like

Some guy had black ncodes on **** at like $60 each and i took a chance. But they were much heavier and played really solid, so i picked up 2 more. He ran out but said a player dropped off 39 of them.

Im thinking nestor or del portro. He didnt give name but other info, got a 5 star

I did have a lot of fun with my friends when people were wondering about the new rf. Racket feels amazing but like 13.5oz. I let this one guy hit with it that was a 6.0 using it, then went back to 5.5 with his ps85. But 125mph serves and he was clowning and did 3 delpo forehands in a row, all hit the line and put a dent in the fence :)
The frames in the photos are 16x18 so that wouldn't fit Nestor or Del Potro, but there is a deep stack of other pros who use 16x18.

Thats a great price though. The heft from the baseline is decimating, turns a fresh can into hacky sacks so quick.
 

gino

Hall of Fame
The frames in the photos are 16x18 so that wouldn't fit Nestor or Del Potro, but there is a deep stack of other pros who use 16x18.

Thats a great price though. The heft from the baseline is decimating, turns a fresh can into hacky sacks so quick.
Didn't notice that. Good eye @moonshot I think it's odd that they were blacked out. Looks a lot like my pro room 6.1 PJ
 

beltsman

Legend
Received mine in the mail. What does everyone string this with/at? I want to put in full Hyper G...what tension would yall recommend?
 

beltsman

Legend
What are some other frame / string / tension combos that worked for you?
The only poly I've liked is Hyper-G, but that's the only one I've played extensively with. I forget the names of others that I hit with but didn't like. Otherwise, I played with syn gut.

I usually play with full Hyper G ~48-50 depending on the frame.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
The only poly I've liked is Hyper-G, but that's the only one I've played extensively with. I forget the names of others that I hit with but didn't like. Otherwise, I played with syn gut.

I usually play with full Hyper G ~48-50 depending on the frame.
Consider if your previous frames are larger, flexier, or less dense pattern. I'd string a bit lower if you've been playing bigger, softer, or open sweetspots. Higher if the opposite.

I've been playing Hyper-G 1.25 @ 57 in a 6.1 18x20 with a few feet of lead on it. I recently strung a stock classic 16x18 with 1.30 @ 53 and have liked it so far.

Oh yeah, and if it is heavier and higher swingweight than the previous frame you may favor higher tension for that as well.
 

beltsman

Legend
Consider if your previous frames are larger, flexier, or less dense pattern. I'd string a bit lower if you've been playing bigger, softer, or open sweetspots. Higher if the opposite.

I've been playing Hyper-G 1.25 @ 57 in a 6.1 18x20 with a few feet of lead on it. I recently strung a stock classic 16x18 with 1.30 @ 53 and have liked it so far.
Thanks. I was planning on stringing low for sure. I string my 100s at 48-50, for reference.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Has anyone tried going really low? I may try 40lb poly.

Did one at 52 with Stamina and it feels really tight.
 

edelp

Rookie
Has anyone tried going really low? I may try 40lb poly.

Did one at 52 with Stamina and it feels really tight.
Hi, I tried once with 44lb, all good! Currently I have an 1.18 thin poly, at 46, and plays nicely. This might be the frame that I use the lowest tension with.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Hi, I tried once with 44lb, all good! Currently I have an 1.18 thin poly, at 46, and plays nicely. This might be the frame that I use the lowest tension with.
Thanks, may try 45 to start out, arm isnt great atm.

Nice looking rackets but that box beam is eww.
 

Pre980

Rookie
I strung my 6.1 95 rackets with Technifibre HDX 17g in the mains at 53 and Technifibre X One Biphase 17g in the crosses at 57. Absolutely love it.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Found some gold, forgot i had them (almost sold last year). Do other wilson 6.1 grommet sets fit the old ncode 16*18 95?

 
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Chadillac

Guest
44lb ripspin 16g main and 47lb prince syn gut 16 duraflex (my fav syn).

Racket is feeling really soft and comfy, but havent hit a real ball yet.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
are they pro stock? I've never seen that PJ on a 6.1 95
They were called 6.1 95 in a way... But they really were called the BLX 6.1 Pro Staff 95. They're Pro Staff 6.0s over 6.1s (don't try to understand Wilson naming conventions).

It's the same way the 90 was called the BLX Six.One Pro Staff 90 in that iteration, before that the BLX Six.One Tour, etc.

So no, they're not 6.1s the way you understand it, they're closer to the 6.0 95 (although that one had a different mould).
 

gino

Hall of Fame
They were called 6.1 95 in a way... But they really were called the BLX 6.1 Pro Staff 95. They're Pro Staff 6.0s over 6.1s (don't try to understand Wilson naming conventions).

It's the same way the 90 was called the BLX Six.One Pro Staff 90 in that iteration, before that the BLX Six.One Tour, etc.

So no, they're not 6.1s the way you understand it, they're closer to the 6.0 95 (although that one had a different mould).
Thanks for that I was massively confused
 

Antónis

Semi-Pro
Found some gold, forgot i had them (almost sold last year). Do other wilson 6.1 grommet sets fit the old ncode 16*18 95?

Lucky you, I'm looking for one of those to resuscitate a 6.1 clone (Slazenger Pro braided), but I just can't find them - I think I would be alright with the bumper only

Does the new 6.1 line has that parallel drill system, or they dropped it and went back to the old system?
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
1st generation had a few name styles: "Pro Staff Classic" then "Pro Staff Classic 6.1 si" and finally the "ProStaff Classic 6.1"
The classic was still sold until around the introduction of KFactor.

"Hyper ProStaff 6.1"
Nothing controversial about this name, but here is where the issue begins. For a short time around 2002 Roger played with a paintjob of the Hyper 6.1 95, probably while the Hyper 6.0 90 was yet to be released. The mold wasn't released as a "ProStaff Tour" which also dropped "si" designations from the name but kept them on stickers inside the throat.

"nCode NSix-One 95"
The mold returned in the nCode family which replaced the top billing of "ProStaff" with "NSix-One" though pro staff remained on decals.

"K Factor KSix-One 95"
Kfactor dropped the pro staff name from all decals at this point the only racquet still made with that name was the 6.0 Original 85.

"BLX Six.One 95"
BLX replaced K Factor as top billing.

"BLX Six.One 95" (BLX2)
The name is the same as before, but the rest of the Wilson line added confusion. The "BLX Six.One Tour" (90) became the "BLX Pro Staff Six.One 90" and introduced the "BLX Pro Staff Six.One 95" which were both most similar to the "ProStaff 6.0 Original 85" and "ProStaff 6.0 Original 95".

"BLX Six.One 95" (BLX3)
The name is the same again, but the "BLX Pro Staff Six.One 95" became the "Pro Staff 95" which was slightly less confusing, only if you ignored all their previous names. All that was dropped a year later with the release of the Pro Staff 97 line.

"BLX Six.One 95" (BLX4?)
 
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gino

Hall of Fame
Found some gold, forgot i had them (almost sold last year). Do other wilson 6.1 grommet sets fit the old ncode 16*18 95?

Damn that is like finding gold. Im not sure, can anyone else know if the 6.1 drill patterns differ at all before the parallel drilling?
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Damn that is like finding gold. Im not sure, can anyone else know if the 6.1 drill patterns differ at all before the parallel drilling?
I don't think so but I know the headguard for the Hyper 6.1 and the N-code 6.1 had a light pattern/indentations on it whereas the subsequent models (as well as the PSC) just had a smooth headguard. The ones before Parallel Drilling should all be interchangeable, to my knowledge.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
44 felts pretty darn good, i think i have room to go lower, next is 38/42.

I don't think so but I know the headguard for the Hyper 6.1 and the N-code 6.1 had a light pattern/indentations on it whereas the subsequent models (as well as the PSC) just had a smooth headguard. The ones before Parallel Drilling should all be interchangeable, to my knowledge.
You are correct. My K version also uses the ncode indentation bumper guard, the rf is the next one i picked up (skipped the blx etc). It has a smoother surface, big time gap though.

Does anyone have the next iteration from the k 6.1 to see when they changed?

 
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Chadillac

Guest
Sorry for the pic spam, but my black ones have a diff bumper guard, i would of never noticed unless you guys brought it up. Based on their weight difference (static/swing) it appears they put like 16 grams in the handle and a different bumper guard with lead under weighing around +21. Its more head heavy than the other ones, amazing plow through, but get tired at 13+oz. My math is very bad but 37 grams is around 1.2oz.

They play so nice i dont wanna touch the bumper or buttcap to see.

 
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moon shot

Hall of Fame
Sorry for the pic spam, but my black ones have a diff bumper guard, i would of never noticed unless you guys brought it up. Based on their weight difference (static/swing) it appears they put like 16 grams in the handle and a different bumper guard with lead under weighing around +21. Its more head heavy than the other ones, amazing plow through, but get tired at 13+oz. My math is very bad but 37 grams is around 1.2oz.

They play so nice i dont wanna touch the bumper or buttcap to see.
The head guard changed at BLX3 which was around 2014 if I remember right.

Not sure if I am reading you right about the RF or black RF but neither 97 has a relationship to a previous 95.

edit: I forgot you'd previously mentioned buying 6.1 95 frames which were painted black.

My BLX3 Six.One 95 was the first model with parallel drilling, from what I can tell they made a head guard for it which has a detachable section (photo below) for the center mains. You would see seams if yours was parallel drilled. This is the only version I can say for sure you can't swap the bumper guards on due to parallel drilling, I would think all the rest were interchangeable.

All of my classics have smooth head guard. My Hyper, nCode, Kfactor all have the head guards with indentions. From the pictures I've seen a smooth head guard and sometimes one with indentions on the BLX1 and classics. I suppose they changed the style but were an identical fit.

 
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Tmano

Professional
Hi all,
I cant believe how lucky i got today!i went to Saint Vincent the popular threaft store and there there were two 6.1 si classic 16x18 wilson racquet in great shape. For both i paid $6.50!!!!
I cant wait to try them, i always wanted to try this racquet! How does it play?
 

joe sch

Legend
Its interesting that the PS 6.1 classic is such a great hitting racket with more of a modern air shell type frame (like babolats) compared to the smaller denser ps85. Did you all know that Wilson actually made a PS 6.1 Classic with an 85 head but Edberg still preferred and decided to keep playing the ps85 paintjob ? Below is what Im talking about:

 

gino

Hall of Fame
What's everyone's preferred string set up with the nCode 6.1? I've got Diadem XT elite in there right noiw
 

Arti

Professional
Consider if your previous frames are larger, flexier, or less dense pattern. I'd string a bit lower if you've been playing bigger, softer, or open sweetspots. Higher if the opposite.

I've been playing Hyper-G 1.25 @ 57 in a 6.1 18x20 with a few feet of lead on it. I recently strung a stock classic 16x18 with 1.30 @ 53 and have liked it so far.

Oh yeah, and if it is heavier and higher swingweight than the previous frame you may favor higher tension for that as well.
A few feet?? Put that on a scale it could be over 13.5 ounces
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
A few feet?? Put that on a scale it could be over 13.5 ounces
I started off matching it to a wooden racquet in balance and swingweight for kicks. In doing that is where the feet of lead came into play which brought it to 385g as well as 31.6cm and 371sw. I can actually play decent with it at my level but net play is laggy so I'm bringing it down.
 
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