***Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 95 Club***

Tenny

Professional
Well, somebody with a 3D printer needs to get started. I don't know crap about the material for the printers but if its hard enough seems like a good solution.
If you were talking about the bumper guard/grommet, that's a good idea. However, I gave up and ordered a roll of Gamma head tape. :( I thought TW will carry at least some for PS85 or PS 6.1 (I mainly play with Wilson sticks) but they were all discontinued along with the racquet itself.
 

MattaRayJack

New User
Damn that is like finding gold. Im not sure, can anyone else know if the 6.1 drill patterns differ at all before the parallel drilling?
Parallel drilling patter is different from the 6.1 molds of old. You're gonna need a heat gun and some elbow grease to get them in there and that's if you're lucky and don't rip the grommets apart. I was also looking at using the Burn FST 95 grommets, but haven't been able to find them.
 

BenC

Rookie
A family portrait:


Weirdly, the K-Factor and the 2014 BLX3 feel slightly head heavier than the others. I have them posted for sale but I'm not sure if the difference in just in my head or what.
 

snoflewis

Hall of Fame
A family portrait:


Weirdly, the K-Factor and the 2014 BLX3 feel slightly head heavier than the others. I have them posted for sale but I'm not sure if the difference in just in my head or what.
I believe the k6.1 sw was pretty high and it definitely felt that way, whereas all the rackets after that were almost as high in sw but swung much lighter. The blx3 felt pretty hefty for me too. I really miss the first blx 6.1 95
 

Moonarse

Semi-Pro
Just received a never used 6.1 Classic (no si) that I found online. Damn this thing is heavy. 356 strung without cushion and with 2 thin OG's.

Couldn't hit with it yet, but it seems that all the weight is located aroud the throat area. Are all 6.1 this heavy both static and SW?

I mean, If I wanted to add a Cushion and a OG I think it would hit the 370g mark easily.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
Just received a never used 6.1 Classic (no si) that I found online. Damn this thing is heavy. 356 strung without cushion and with 2 thin OG's.

Couldn't hit with it yet, but it seems that all the weight is located aroud the throat area. Are all 6.1 this heavy both static and SW?

I mean, If I wanted to add a Cushion and a OG I think it would hit the 370g mark easily.
Is it 18x20 with red on the sides of the throat? Mine was about that with a surprisingly low swingweight of like 322.
 

WestboroChe

Hall of Fame
Just received a never used 6.1 Classic (no si) that I found online. Damn this thing is heavy. 356 strung without cushion and with 2 thin OG's.

Couldn't hit with it yet, but it seems that all the weight is located aroud the throat area. Are all 6.1 this heavy both static and SW?

I mean, If I wanted to add a Cushion and a OG I think it would hit the 370g mark easily.
Sounds about right. Yes they are all heavy. I believe Sampras used to weigh his 85 up to about 400g.

If you’re on and swinging freely it’s a great hit. Very powerful so you can string it tight. Also very solid when returning a big server or hitting a stinging volley.

Of course if you’re tired or not taking a full cut it will feel like you are swinging a hammer out there.
 

Moonarse

Semi-Pro
Is it 18x20 with red on the sides of the throat? Mine was about that with a surprisingly low swingweight of like 322.
16x18 one... trying to upload some pictures but the Tapatalk app is crashing. Strung Ultracable 45lbs and I'll take it for a hit tonight to see how it goes.
 

Red Hood

New User
Hey guys,

I just picked up a 6.1 95 18x20.

I have a question about a string setup. I've been reading that there are user in this thread and Del Potro uses a poly (main) / gut (cross) hybrid.
Why would one uses gut on the cross than the main in this stick?
 

Burn

New User
Hey guys,

I just picked up a 6.1 95 18x20.

I have a question about a string setup. I've been reading that there are user in this thread and Del Potro uses a poly (main) / gut (cross) hybrid.
Why would one uses gut on the cross than the main in this stick?
I used to use that setup as well in the very same racket and the goal was only towards feel and confort. The gut on the crosses makes the string bed softer.
 

Red Hood

New User
Wouldn't the gut in the main would provide the most comfort? I've been reading that it's a waste to put poly in the main and gut cross because poly dies faster.
 

mfpeden

Rookie
Unfortunately I broke one of my ncode six one 95 16x18, new rackets (Yonex vcore pro 97 330) are on the way, specs on paper are a close match, feel is a bit different.

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ssdeluxe

New User
can you describe the difference btw your 16x18 6.1 and the 330 ?

I was always curious how they stack up with the current Yonex 330 offering..... ?

I own a few ncode 16x18 6.1's and I'd say they are my fave over-all (with the blx3 w. parallel a close 2nd.....only because I can't find the grommet's on my continent ! lol)
 

mfpeden

Rookie
My 6.1 has more vibration sensation when you hit the ball, but they weren't the same strings, so not apples to apples. When they arrive with the same strings, I can give a better comparison.

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ssdeluxe

New User
My 6.1 has more vibration sensation when you hit the ball, but they weren't the same strings, so not apples to apples. When they arrive with the same strings, I can give a better comparison.

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that would be great ! when you say "vibration sensation", do you mean you had better feel with the 6.1, or, are you saying they transfer more vibration to your arm ? (not a good thing)
 

mfpeden

Rookie
To me there's a difference between vibration and shock. Vibration is higher frequency, felt mostly by the palm. Vibration is like the ping sound, but felt in the hand, shock would be the crack of impact felt in the arm... Not sure that makes any sense.



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ssdeluxe

New User
gotchya, still not 100%, ....lol vibration good...or vibration bad ? ...lol thanks !

I've been with the 6.1's (16x18) some 6 yrs going strong now...so my experience with the stan the man 330 was when I was looking to pick a stick, 6 years ago, it felt a little "bulky" , not as maneuverable , and, not as good at net....so curious how the new one is doing in comparison, definitely let us know a good comparison when you get the chance to duplicate the string setup. cheers.
 

mfpeden

Rookie
The new versions have been reducing the swingweight a bit, it's the same on paper as the nsix one, and feels about the same in hand

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snoflewis

Hall of Fame
sad to say that the 2017 reissues didn't work out for me. bought a bunch, but thankfully only opened one. to the auction site!
 

steve260z

Rookie
I've been using the 18x20 Blx 2012 and the 2017 as well. How do you guys compare the 18x20 to the 16x18? I tend to get plenty of spin with the 18x20. What trade offs do you see?
 

snoflewis

Hall of Fame
I've been using the 18x20 Blx 2012 and the 2017 as well. How do you guys compare the 18x20 to the 16x18? I tend to get plenty of spin with the 18x20. What trade offs do you see?
The biggest difference is the launch angle. The 16x18 is also a bit more forgiving but can also be slightly unpredictable at times.
 

Burn

New User
Wouldn't the gut in the main would provide the most comfort? I've been reading that it's a waste to put poly in the main and gut cross because poly dies faster.
Not really, the mains are the "gas pedal" and the crosses are the "breaks". The crosses are shorter in lenght and therefore less flexible than mains and so they tend to provide more stiffness to your stringbed. If you place a stiff string on the crosses it won't be confort at all unless you string it low. That is also why crosses hold better the tension. I've tried both setups and gut in crosses provides more confort.
But you're right, it's a waste because it's more difficult to replace a dead poly in mains that in crosses keeping the gut (that holds tension for a long, long time)
 

BenC

Rookie
So I have these grommet sets for the Pro Staff Classic (PSC), K6.1, and 6.1 BLX2 (2012?), and soon I will try to use one to replace the bumper on a Hyper Pro Staff 6.1. For grins and giggles I took out the bumpers to see if there were any obvious differences.

I lined up the bumpers grommet-to-grommet (3rd pic) and interestingly, the PSC wouldn't line up properly with the other two. I would align the grommets on the left tightly (4th pic) but on the right there's a gap of almost 2 mm (marked in center of 5th pic). The K6.1 and BLX2 grommets lined up perfectly with each other so if they're not interchangeable, they're at least much closer than the PSC. I'm planning to try the K6.1 bumper on the Hyper Pro Staff first, and if that fits I suppose that means the Hyper Pro Staff, K6.1 and BLX2 bumpers are (reasonably) interchangeable.

I can also tell you from previous experience that fitting a BLX1 grommet set onto a PSC requires a lot of work.





 

BenC

Rookie
Some more musings on the 6.1 and Wilson's quality control. So far I have had in my possession at one time or another, all in 16x18 and 4 3/8ths grip:

5 Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 "HPS"
1 NCode Six One 95
2 KFactor Six One 95
2 2010 Six One 95 "BLX1"
3 2012 Six One 95 "BLX2" (with Amplifeel)
2 2014 Six One 95 (with Amplifeel and Parallel Drilling)

The typical post-PSC 6.1 16x18 clocks in at 351 (+/-1) grams strung - this is with grip (16 g) and strings (17 g) and dampener (3 g).

However, all 3 2012 BLX2 and 3 of the HPS rackets weigh in at 347 grams strung and are also noticeably lighter in swingweight. The lighter HPS rackets have "wilsonsports.com" in the throat whereas the heaver HPS rackets have "wilsontennis.com" instead. I think these may have come from a different factory or production batch?

If this were just variation in the production methods I would have expected to see the racket weights more evenly distributed, but the bimodal distribution suggests to me that somewhere along the line there were actually 2 different specifications of these rackets.

Anyway, my preference is for the lighter 347g ones and I will continue selling off the heavier 6.1s soon. I already posted and sold some and the HPS, BLX1, and NCode will be up in a separate thread soon.
 

Seth

Hall of Fame
I decided to come back home to the 6.1. I found a listing of four HPS6.1 frames in 5/8. Had to snag them. The HPS was my main frame as a junior, feels great to have them again.
 

mnttlrg

Semi-Pro
Here's a useless random post out of nowhere:

To this day, I still think that a six.one 100 with PWS and 67 flex might be my holy grail.

Too bad it doesn't exist.


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bogdan101

Rookie
Did anyone buy the new release of the k factor? Curious to know if it's the same as the last one (white-red) with a new pj...
 

slipgrip93

New User
Hi, a question about the KSixOne vs. the RF97. I've been used to the taiwan ps85 since I got it from TW. Before that, I used a retail store prostaff 95(?) edberg colors, which broke after it slipped from my sweaty hand. Then I was on hiatus from tennis for a long time until the ps85. So I'm used to the thin beam and heavier weight and smaller maneuverable head.

But now I'm looking into a newer racquet with the more modern power&control tech than the ps85 and would I be more comfortable and better off with the KSixOne now offered again, or the current RF97, or should I just instead look up a St. Vincent ps85 on other sites? Thanks.
 
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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Hi, a question about the KSixOne vs. the RF97. I've been used to the taiwan ps85 since I got it from TW. Before that, I used a retail store prostaff 95(?) edberg colors, which broke after it slipped from my sweaty hand. Then I was on hiatus from tennis for a long time until the ps85. So I'm used to the thin beam and heavier weight and smaller maneuverable head.

But now I'm looking into a newer racquet with the more modern power&control tech than the ps85 and would I be more comfortable and better off with the KSixOne now offered again, or the current RF97, or should I just instead look up a St. Vincent ps85 on other sites? Thanks.
Based on the frames from your past, The 2017 Re Issue 6.1 95 18x20 or RF97. The KSixone is rough on the arm especially if you play poly.
Been playing with the RF97 since 2014 and have been playing with the 6.1 95 off and on. The RF97 is easy power, spin and the 6.1 95 18x20 has tremendous control.
Bought three 6.1 95 18x20’s for the price of one RF97.
 
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teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
My fave pro staff ever . The 95 sq inch version 6.1 classic jr 26, euro release model . I know it sounds ridiculous but the specs for me are so fun and great I can’t help myself to love it . Matter of fact if I only had one frame to choose for the rest of my life it would have to be the wilson pro staff 6.1 classic 26 jr.
All the hard wear / grips leather , shock absorber plus strings weight is=11 oz
Balance =12 pts HL
Flex out of the box =39 ra
Just imagine a soft lighter pro staff classic 6.1 and that’s it.. for those of you that use or have extensively used the classic 6.1, you know she’s stiff on the ra numbers ,but due to the Kevlar in the composition it doesn’t necessarily equate to the numbers given as she “ breathes “ on contact ... it’s a short breathe but none the less a exhale of air on impact... with the jr version it’s a deep long breath , and I dig it.. I’ve yet to hit with any other racket that feels this way ..
if you ever see one out in the wild , shoot it and I’ll pay for the hunt :)
 

Seth

Hall of Fame
Hi, a question about the KSixOne vs. the RF97. I've been used to the taiwan ps85 since I got it from TW. Before that, I used a retail store prostaff 95(?) edberg colors, which broke after it slipped from my sweaty hand. Then I was on hiatus from tennis for a long time until the ps85. So I'm used to the thin beam and heavier weight and smaller maneuverable head.

But now I'm looking into a newer racquet with the more modern power&control tech than the ps85 and would I be more comfortable and better off with the KSixOne now offered again, or the current RF97, or should I just instead look up a St. Vincent ps85 on other sites? Thanks.
Based on the frames from your past, The 2017 Re Issue 6.1 95 18x20 or RF97. The KSixone is rough on the arm especially if you play poly.
Been playing with the RF97 since 2014 and have been playing with the 6.1 95 off and on. The RF97 is easy power, spin and the 6.1 95 18x20 has tremendous control.
Bought three 6.1 95 18x20’s for the price of one RF97.
I’m seconding the 2017 6.1 18x20. Excellent iteration and comfy with full poly. They’re still on TWE for what that’s worth.

I had one and sold it (mistake) - but I’ve still got 3 of my HPS6.1 sticks.
 

rayo_fed#1

New User
Hello guys,
I'm a huge Fan of the prostaff Line.
I found this on a flea market, in a 9/10 condition.
I think is a clone of the Hyper ProStaff 6.1, Without the PWS, You can see It in the 4 large tube grommets al 3 & 9 o'clock.
Anyone know the story of this racket ?
Later I post pics of My prostaffs
 

snoflewis

Hall of Fame
Based on the frames from your past, The 2017 Re Issue 6.1 95 18x20 or RF97. The KSixone is rough on the arm especially if you play poly.
Been playing with the RF97 since 2014 and have been playing with the 6.1 95 off and on. The RF97 is easy power, spin and the 6.1 95 18x20 has tremendous control.
Bought three 6.1 95 18x20’s for the price of one RF97.
the k6.1 was the only 6.1 95 that felt harsh to me. all the others felt a bit more plush relative to the stiffness rating (some more than others), but the k factor absolutely felt harsher than the stiffness rating
 

BenC

Rookie
Just picked up an Asian edition nCode 6.1 95 for grins and giggles - 310g unstrung instead of 332g. A bit worried that I might actually like this racket since it's not like I can easily find any more ...
 
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