Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 vs. K6.1 95 (vs. n6.1 95)

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jeter2kewl

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Hey Guys,

I've tried to find as much info as I could prior to posting this, so I apologize for the length of this post, please bear with me.

I've been playing with the PS 6.1 for about the better part of the past 8 years now, and at this point it is the perfect racquet for me. Heavy, well balanced, powerful, and phenomenal feel. I used to string it up at 65lbs with synthetic, although I have currently dropped that to abt 58/60 Luxilon Big Banger Original/Synthetic, and think I find that superior, at least in this stage of my "career." Regardless, I've become incredibly attached and accustomed to the racquet. I have 3 frames, yet they are old and wearing; eventually they will need to be replaced.

About 4 years ago, when the ncode came out, I switched to the nSix-One 95, as it was supposed to be a good improvement on the 6.1 series. I played with it, and struggled. I kept playing with it, "its not the racquet," but then one day picked up one of my PS 6.1s, and it was just a world of differences. The PS was perfect for me, and I just felt so comfortable with it. I discovered I was not comfortable at ALL with the ncode, and those racquets were gone by the end of the week, and I moved back to the trusty PS.

Now we have the k6.1 95, and from what I've heard, its the closest to the PS. I've read as many reviews as I can, but what I'm really looking for is a direct comparison to the PS. Just how close is the K6.1 95? I've almost all but ruled out the ncode as it felt incredibly muted, but I'm open to suggestions, especially in terms of stringing. I was stringing that racquet at the upper limit (60), and was curious how it may perform at a lower tension (ie 54 lbs, as I've also dropped tension on my PS). So I'm really wondering about the performance of the K6.1 95.

I realize this is asking for quite a bit of review, but I'm hoping someone on here would be able to help me out, both with racquet comparison, and possibly stringing suggestions for the n6.1 and k6.1 as I don't have any racquets really to experiment with other than the PS.

Thanks in advance!!!
 
See my post, Wilson, so long for now in Racquets. I struggled with this racquet for months. It doesn't feel anything like the old Pro Staff 6.1. Have you demo'd it?
 
Hello!

when i was younger I used to play also with PS 6.1, they were really nice, great feel, then i changed to the ncodes, it was not the perfect change but i managed to enjoy playing with them...well untill the k series came out...before buying them i read a lot of comparisons, and saw that people did not like the feel compare to the ncodes, but i said to myself to give it a try...well i have to say that K6.1 is for me the perfect racket, i like it when the racket is stiff, gives me more feel...hehe, still have the old classic PS 6.1 in my bag, but it usually stays there...

Well, i hope i gave you some information, you need to know that this is just what i think, there has to be a lot of people that still love the ncodes...

for info, i play with the 18x20 string pattern, if you are thinking of the same string pattern, then give it a try...

have fun!

Jaka
 
I was using a Prince racquet for years and decided to switch this year. I demoed a few and fell in love with the ksix one 95 (16x18). I used to play with the pro staff classics and I think this racquet plays very much like the old PS but it is stiffer. There was a minor adjustment but I was able to adjust to it in only a couple of weeks. It's always taken way longer than that to adjust to any other switch I've made before. BTW, I also tried the tour 90 but it was just too much of a club and too heavy for me.

I've tinkered with different string setups and decided on 57# (mains and crosses) with gut mains and Gosen Micro sheep crosses. I tried several different combos and have settled on this one. I used to string at 60# but needed to drop it down a bit because the ksix one is pretty stiff. Even with the dropdown in tension, I find control is superb.

My advice, try several demos and see for yourself. By all means, try the ksix one 95. I think you'll find yourself a new stick.
 
6.1 classic is perfectly balanced. Seems very HL from specs but is great from the baseline. Plays a little flexier than the indicated 72 rating. The k6.1 swings like a beast. Not as easy to maneuver at net. There is no raw feel like what you get from the 6.1. And it's also about 15 grams lighter...
 
I appreciate all of your answers, I think obviously im going to have to give the k95 a try. i have tried the tour versions of the ncode, and that range is just not for me. I guess i just hope the k factor does not feel as muted as the ncode did for me, although im sure that may have had something to do with stringing. on another note, i think i may be able to acquire some fresh PS 6.1 frames...if that is possible, that will be the route i take

thanks again
 
What string tension did you use on the n6.1? I have a 16x18, and I don't feel it's muted at all. Here are the set ups I've tested:

58lbs alu luxilon Mains, Kgut crosses 16g
56lbs Msv Hex Mains, nxt 17g
48lbs alu luxilon mains, 46lbs Prince syn gut 16g
58lbs wilson sensation 16 g

My current favorite is the msv set up, but if you are seeking a "crisper" feel, I would suggest the the wilson sensation or the luxilon and prince syn set ups.

In comparison with the k6.1, what the n6.1 lacks in power, it makes up for with touch and balance. I'm convinced that it's a classic that deserves mention with PS6.1.
 
I've played the 6.1 Classics well beyond a decade myself and a few of our pals here have been in this same boat. Replacing that racquet with something current that offers the same personality, feel, and performance can be a real dilemma.

I've pooched around once or twice with the K95 and that one seemed a lot easier to relate to that the nCode generation, but I'm really hooked on both the weight and head-light balance of the Classic. It occurred to me that the K would probably need some lead added to the handle to have that same balance that I like, but I demoed it in a doubles setting and felt quite at home with it right away.

Unfortunately, Prince discontinued their Hybrid Tour - I can best describe that frame as feeling like a slightly more lean version of the 6.1 Classic. If you see a good deal on a couple, they might be worth grabbing for yourself. Another frame that's a rather nice player is the Yonex RDS 002 Tour. In my opinion, this racquet has big serve and volley potential like the Wilson 6.1 line, but Yonex frames seem to be an acquired taste that can take a little getting used to if you're not familiar with them.

I haven't tried the Boris Becker 11 mid, but the feedback around here has been pretty positive. Sounds like that frame could have a lot to offer to the 6.1 crowd, too.
 
I'm in the same exact boat as you. I played high school tennis with the PSC 6.1 and after a long layoff I'm back to tennis. I played with the PSC 6.1 and love it, but the racket may be too stiff for me right now. It could be my technique also. But I wanted to try a new racket.

I demo'ed about ten rackets from the Head Microgels, Babolots, Fischer, Prince and have gone back to Wilson. I love the heavier rackets and the Wilson KSix-One 95 is about the same as the PSC 6.1. When I compared the two rackets side by side and in my hands I couldn't really tell the difference. I tried both the 18x20 version and 16x18 version and like the 16x18 version better since it's closer to the PSC 6.1 pattern, plus it gives me a little more spin. The rackets are essentially the same, but I had no problems adapting.

The way you string the racket will effect the overall feel of the racket also so a demo racket may not feel good when you hit with it, but after a real stringjob it will feel better.

I still have my PSC 6.1, but am starting to use the K6.1 now.
 
A senior partner in my firm (and colleague in my tennis club) were using PS6.1 for a while, he has 3 of them, last year received as a gift two K6.1 an after two months, he came back to PS saying that racquet is perfect for his game.

I asked my colleague to describe what is the difference among those racquets, and he said "My feeling is different" :shock: with that description isn't easy to explain reasons, two K6.1 went to his older teenager and he kept with the "older" PS6.1

In the other hand mostly of tennis' professors in my club are using K model where K6.1 is the star, I asked them about the racquet and they say that is demanding and a perfect evolution of PS.

Not sure if this is an example, probably mostly would moved to K6.1; at this point and having this forum an "ex-club" I think anyone must find its racquet.
 
ps2dcgba said:
Just a heads up, I read somewhere off the Internet, that the current generation of tennis rackets that play close to the Wilson 6.1 Pro Staff Classic is this racket,Wilson K Factor KPro Tour.


http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-KPT95.html

It can't hurt to give this racket a demo and make your own decision.
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With all due respect, I can't see how the KFactor KPro Tour would resemble the PSC 6.1 in the slightest. The specs are completely different. The only resemblance whatsoever is that they are close in terms of head-lightness; other than that they're completely different racquets. I've never hit with it, but I have hit with the PSC 6.1 for years, and I know what makes a PSC 6.1 the beast that it is; and frankly I can't see how the KPro Tour has any way of coming close to it. I mean, to start with, it's more than a full ounce lighter! :shock:
 
vkartikv said:
6.1 classic is perfectly balanced. Seems very HL from specs but is great from the baseline. Plays a little flexier than the indicated 72 rating. The k6.1 swings like a beast. Not as easy to maneuver at net. There is no raw feel like what you get from the 6.1. And it's also about 15 grams lighter...
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Unstrung: 340grams for old 6.1 , 332grams for new K61.. 8 grams difference, not 15 right??
 
canadave said:
With all due respect, I can't see how the KFactor KPro Tour would resemble the PSC 6.1 in the slightest. The specs are completely different. The only resemblance whatsoever is that they are close in terms of head-lightness; other than that they're completely different racquets. I've never hit with it, but I have hit with the PSC 6.1 for years, and I know what makes a PSC 6.1 the beast that it is; and frankly I can't see how the KPro Tour has any way of coming close to it. I mean, to start with, it's more than a full ounce lighter! :shock:
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Although it is lighter, it is just the feel of the stick that means a lot. I have played with the PSC6.1 back in high school and stop playing for 13 years and now I have started back, the weight was a little too much for me so i started playing around with different frames from the Wilson series of 6.1s, some to light and some to heavy. The KPT had the perfect balance for me just like the PSC6.1 did back then.
Have you tried it out? If you can get your hands on 1 just try it out. don't worry about specs and s#!t.

As for the k95 are you playing with the 18x20?
It is not as stable as the PSC6.1 in my eyes, power yes. But it lacked feel to me at net, but ground strokes and serving it felt really good. I play a lot of dubs, so net play is really important to me.

Hope I didn't get to carried away.......:)
 
Although it is lighter, it is just the feel of the stick that means a lot. I have played with the PSC6.1 back in high school and stop playing for 13 years and now I have started back, the weight was a little too much for me so i started playing around with different frames from the Wilson series of 6.1s, some to light and some to heavy. The KPT had the perfect balance for me just like the PSC6.1 did back then.
Have you tried it out? If you can get your hands on 1 just try it out. don't worry about specs and s#!t.

As for the k95 are you playing with the 18x20?
It is not as stable as the PSC6.1 in my eyes, power yes. But it lacked feel to me at net, but ground strokes and serving it felt really good. I play a lot of dubs, so net play is really important to me.

Hope I didn't get to carried away.......:)
 
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